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Carneros closure tops list of concerns at school meeting
Friday, November 06, 2009
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Don’t close Carneros Elementary School. That was the message from many of the 100 or so residents who came out to a special Napa Valley Unified School District meeting Wednesday night at Harvest Middle School.

School officials called the meeting to draw public input about the district’s Program and Facilities Master Plan. If the plan is approved by the school board, the district could close and consolidate schools and make changes in elementary school attendance boundaries. It could also convert a handful of the district’s existing campuses to magnet schools, which are known for attracting students with specialized courses or curriculum.
The long-term plan would unfold in phases, between 2010 and 2020.

Meanwhile, the district is considering adding campuses in areas expected to grow, including southeast and northeast Napa.
Superintendent John Glaser told the audience that in light of ongoing cuts to public education, there is a “huge financial interest driving (the) master plan.”

Breaking into five discussion groups Wednesday, parents voiced concerns and questions about the master plan. English- and Spanish-speakers  asked how students will be bussed to another school if their campus closes, what would happen to any closed school buildings and whether the district can close Carneros, given that Measure M dollars paid for its construction.
Parents also asked why the school district did not consider making Carneros Elementary School a magnet campus, instead putting the school on the list of possible campus closures. Although the school board has not finalized any decision, Capell Valley, Carneros and Wooden Valley elementary schools may be shuttered at the end of this academic year.

Rigo Ortega said his daughter thrives at Carneros and that the campus is “like a private school without the cost.” Ortega said Carneros “builds a good foundation for the kids.”

Glaser said many factors go into deciding which campuses will make the best magnet schools, including school location, where students live, how they will get to school and other components.

Sally Jensen Dutcher, the school district’s attorney, said the district considered all elementary schools with fewer than 350 students for closure. In addition to Carneros, she said, the district is also looking at closing Yountville and Mt. George elementary schools over time.

Carneros was not a magnet school candidate because of its remote location and because very few students attending the school live near the campus, she added. 

Conversely, some parents argued that Carneros is a good candidate for a magnet school because many of its students come from elsewhere. “There are a lot of us — both Anglos and Hispanics — who are out of Carneros’ district” but prefer the campus, one woman said.

“The idea that people wouldn’t make the drive out there is ludicrous,” said Curtis Smith, a Napa man with three grandchildren attending Carneros. Smith said Carneros’ staff has a history of working on a technology magnet plan, but has been “ignored” by the district.

Ernesto Castillo said he has three children attending Carneros and understands the district’s fiscal limitations in light of budget cuts. But he disagrees with the idea of closing Carneros. He said because the school’s teachers work together so effectively, they should be transferred collectively to another campus if Carneros closes.

Pending necessary funding, the district will likely make Bel Aire Elementary and Alternative School, Pueblo Vista Elementary and Alternative School and McPherson and Salvador elementary schools pilot magnet campuses.

Overall, parent groups requested more fiscal details from the district about how the master plan’s various scenarios would save money. One group requested that the district send master plan update information to Spanish-speaking households by U.S. mail. Many asked how school closures — and resulting changes in student transportation — might influence traffic.

Glaser and Dutcher said they would post answers to the questions raised at the meeting on the school district’s Web site.

District officials will hold another master plan meeting on Nov. 18 at 6:30 p.m. at Redwood Middle School, and will also discuss the plan at the regularly scheduled Dec. 10 board meeting.
19 comment(s)

noblindershere wrote on Nov 6, 2009 7:22 AM:

" a magnet school is centrally located for a reason, more dense population. Although, we do have several families that bring their kids to Napa from American Canyon and Carneros would be a closer location for them. "

Cadence wrote on Nov 6, 2009 8:43 AM:

" So the campus is “like a private school without the cost," and everyone else can just tighten those belts another notch to protect it, huh?
There certainly is a cost.
Btw, there are private schools available for those who want them. "

pharper wrote on Nov 6, 2009 10:10 AM:

" Except, Cadence, how many parents at Carneros do you think can afford to send their children to a private school?

Carneros is AMAZING because its teachers know each other so well - have known each other since I went to school there a long time ago. The campus itself is beautiful and beautifully maintained and the kids are happy there. They learn more since they are a smaller community and the teachers have time for real one-on-one help. The playground is new and gorgeous (my parents helped build it when I was in fifth or sixth grade) and the brand-new cafeteria/auditorium has been a huge asset.

Don't close Carneros! "

Cadence wrote on Nov 6, 2009 10:48 AM:

" dunno, pharper, but how many parents ANYWHERE can afford to send their kids to private school? And why does parents' ability to pay (or not) for private school matter in a discussion of public schools and using limited public resources equitably?
The beauty of equal protection is that we are all supposed to be treated equally. "

NapaMom wrote on Nov 6, 2009 12:37 PM:

" "English- and Spanish-speakers asked how students will be bussed to another school if their campus closes"

The parent would need to transport their student I would guess. The district took the Carneros bus route away from the Carneros area students for all grade levels. The district still continues to run a bus from NVLA to Carneros and that is not even the local school area for Carneros elementary. "

enufisenuf wrote on Nov 6, 2009 12:40 PM:

" The district has just installed brand new restrooms at Wooden Valley (at what cost?) and now they want to close us. So typical. I have heard people in town say that they are tired of financially supporting us. The reality is we pay property taxes (enough to support our school) and recieve very few services for those taxes. Also, there is another district that wants to take us in. Will the district let this happen? "

noblindershere wrote on Nov 6, 2009 1:26 PM:

" enufisenuf- so, if Pope Valley wants you, what is the fuss? Join Pope Valley.

What about the students that already attend other NVUSD through Open Enrollment that come from Cappell and Wooden...hopefully they will be able to stay in the NVUSD with an interdistrict agreement.

The closures have a great number of complex situations. "

montana wrote on Nov 6, 2009 1:35 PM:

" Enuf,

Let’s clarify a couple of things. The district installed a new restroom because the existing one was determined to be unfit for use. Would you rather have had the kids not have this? Oh, and it is portable. And your comment “now they want to close us” is not true. They have wanted to close you for a long time. The district gave you all a year to figure out another option to keep it open that did not involve them loosing money year after year. It was the district that came up with the idea of going to Pope Valley, and has facilitated the discussions around it, so yes, they will GLADLY let it happen. "

pharper wrote on Nov 6, 2009 2:03 PM:

" Carneros also just had a beautiful upgrade funded by Measure M and now they want to close it? Then what, the charter schools will swoop in like vultures to take over the beautiful and now well-equipped campus?

And what about bussing? The demographics at Carneros show that most parents are working parents who do not have time or means to take their kids to and from school every day, aprticularly outside of their area.

Cadence, I don't think the intention of the man's statement was to say that people who can't afford it should have private education funded by the public His point was that at Carneros, students are getting education that is the quality of a private education at a private school. That's a GOOD thing. That means Carneros is doing its job and MORE. "

montana wrote on Nov 6, 2009 2:28 PM:

" pharper,

Why do you think the kids bussed into Carneros each day deserve that campus more than a charter school? Last I checked, charter school partents pay the same Measure M taxes as everyone else. "

enufisenuf wrote on Nov 6, 2009 2:39 PM:

" The point I was trying to make is that our property taxes bring in plenty of revenue to support a school. So does Capell. My tax money has actually supported services we don't recieve but supports those in town. We'd love to join Pope. I don't understand why small schools are so disliked. Would you rather warehouse our children? "

pharper wrote on Nov 6, 2009 3:01 PM:

" The kids at Carneros have been there for a long time. It's a FANTASTIC public school.

And consider this: if it were to become a charter school, it would not have bus service. This means that 200-300 kids would be driven by their parents 2 times a day (there and back in the morning, there and back at the end of the day). Think how much traffic that puts on our quiet, already damaged country roads.Think how many more people that is driving every single day out in a part of Napa that is known for being quiet and beautiful and traffic-free.

And what about the relationship with the community there? At the Family Fun Day this past year, we had people showing off dancing horses, homemade food, jumpy houses donated by parents, teacher- and parent-run booths, and lots more. It is a COMMUNITY, and its location makes it even more of one.

I have every confidence that the district can find another way to save money WITHOUT closing the elementary school I went to. "

srsly wrote on Nov 6, 2009 3:44 PM:

" pharper, Stone Bridge has their own beautiful campus that they've worked hard on as well. You can bet that they probably don't want to "swoop in" and leave their hard work behind.

If the District needs to close schools to save money, then close the darn school. Of course, this was the recommendation years ago from a Task Force that the Board ignored. Maybe the District wouldn't be in this predicament if they had listened. "

alucawanza wrote on Nov 6, 2009 4:52 PM:

" Irony!
350 school population is probably an ideal number for an elementary school.
That's two classes of each grade and possibly a small special ed. class. No one is lost in, as someone else said, a warehoused learning environment.
Portable classrooms are awful. They smell, the carpets get nasty, and they feel like you're in a cave all day.
Neighborhood schools are ideal. Too bad that's gone. "

noblindershere wrote on Nov 6, 2009 6:53 PM:

" If each of our three high schools had 1,200, NTS had 400. Every middle school had 800 and each elementary had 400...this would be ideal. stonebride takeover the Yountville campus and River can have Carneros...the dust would settle and progress would be made. "

Napagrrl wrote on Nov 6, 2009 11:27 PM:

" Montana says, "Why do you think the kids bused into Carneros...deserve (it) more than a charter school?" Let's start with the fact that it is already THEIR school. These are the kids who get displaced all the time! These are the kids on the "lowest rung" of the socioeconomic ladder. The Carneros kids live in an area of low-income apartments or homes where there are multiple generations or families doubled up. And, make no mistake, these are not just Hispanic families and don't even try to suggest they're all illegal. Meantime, the English students at NVLA are from all over Napa; the hispanic kids from the area. The charter states there must be 50/50 split of English and Spanish speakers (with some special concession to those who are already bilingual - virtually all of whom are hispanic.) The point is, the kids in the NVLA area have been pushed around and given the "short end of the stick" for a long time. Taking the school which has developed into a community center is just cruel. "

pharper wrote on Nov 7, 2009 1:49 AM:

" The plan was for Stone Bridge to have the Carneros campus a while back when they talked about closing Carneros, so yes, I think Stone Bridge would love to get their hands on that property.

Napagrrl is right. For a lot of kids, Carneros is the only family they have - there are a lot of kids there from broken homes, a few from abusive families or families where there are so many children that they just don't get the attention from their parents that children deserve (and in that case, I'm talking about WHITE kids). Carneros is small enough that every kid can feel special and necessary, and know that their teachers understand their situation and want to help. "

Cadence wrote on Nov 7, 2009 7:32 AM:

" Well, now it's easy and not too philosophical. You want Carneros, inefficient or not, to remain open? Then vote YES on the upcoming parcel tax.
I think it's called putting your money where your mouth is. If you won't pay the tax, then it's putting someone else's money where your mouth is... "

pharper wrote on Nov 7, 2009 7:18 PM:

" I didn't say I wouldn't pay the tax; I'd be happy to. Show me where to sign.

Carneros ISN'T inefficient. Kids start that school speaking little to no English. By third trimester of kindergarten, they speak it fluently - without ESL programs. If that's not success, I don't know what is. It may not show on the test scores but those who work there see it happening every single day. "

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