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American Canyon debates Afghanistan
Meeting tonight to take up troop resolution
Tuesday, October 27, 2009
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Looking well beyond its own borders, the American Canyon City Council today will take up the question of sending additional U.S. troops to Afghanistan.

Last week City Councilman Ed West asked for a proclamation in support of Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., who broke ranks with other Democrats by supporting Gen. Stanley McChrystal’s request to send tens of thousands more troops to Afghanistan.
West’s proposal was immediately criticized by Councilwoman Joan Bennett, who said the troop debate and Feinstein’s views are not municipal issues.

But West — who lost his eldest son, Phillip, a U.S Marine, in Iraq five years ago and whose daughter, Megan, is now serving with the U.S. Army in Afghanistan — drafted the resolution over the weekend, saying the military deserves the additional troops military leaders have requested.
West then asked City Manager Rich Ramirez to poll city councilmembers to find out if the majority would agree to hold a public meeting to take up the resolution.

Vice Mayor Don Callison, West and Cindy Coffey called for the special meeting, to be held at 5:30 p.m. today in the City Council Chambers at 4381 Highway 29 in American Canyon, according to Ramirez. Garcia declined comment before the meeting, saying “it wouldn’t be appropriate.”
In a letter sent to the Register, West wrote that “Soldiers die due to strategic failures, equipment failures and even just plain bad luck, but no soldier should die because his/her command did not have enough troops to support him/her.”

In an interview, West characterized as “weak” Bennett’s contention that the troop issue is not a city matter.

“We have hundreds of citizens who are in the military right now,” he said. “We all know someone in there.”

On Monday, Bennett reiterated that she opposes the resolution and said she also opposes a troop surge in Afghanistan.

Earlier this year, Bennett was on the other end of the local vs. non-local debate.

In March, her resolution in support for all people regardless of sexual orientation was tabled. West and others said same-sex marriage was not a city matter, and that with the passage of Proposition 8 banning same-sex marriage months earlier, that the people of California had already spoken.

Callison and Coffey joined West voting to table Bennett’s proposal.

On Monday, Bennett said she will have plenty more to say Tuesday, but declined to address the issue further until the meeting.

While Callison said he agrees with West that the United States needs either to send more troops to Afghanistan or pull out, he has yet to look at the city resolution.

Asked in an e-mail whether she supports the resolution, Coffey said “it needs to be discussed.”
26 comment(s)

oldman wrote on Oct 27, 2009 8:32 AM:

" mr west and mr callison mrs coffey are city councilman for the city of american canyon and need to keep up on city busines not usa busines .if that is what they want to do then become senatorsyes keep to city busines or move to berkley ca "

nightwatchman wrote on Oct 27, 2009 9:20 AM:

" Only in the NVR message board world would the act of being careful and considerate before you send thousands of our best in brightest into harm's way be construed as "not supporting the troops."

And Amcan, do you really want to talk about Presidential recreational activity? GW Bush spent 490 days in Crawford and 487 days at Camp David while he was diverting 100,000 troops to Iraq and not catching Bin Laden. That's 1/3 of his presidency, by the way. Maybe this wouldn't be an issue today if he had concentrated on the people who actually attacked us on 9-11. "

nightwatchman wrote on Oct 27, 2009 11:13 AM:

" Sorry, it appears that the post that comment was responding to was deleted. "

amcancando wrote on Oct 27, 2009 11:29 AM:

" Shouldn't this matter be tabled like they have done with the prop 8 issue?? Why a "special" meeting? I know this is going to come across "mean" but oh well. I know I do not speak alone when stating it is rather "sickening" that Ed West is always riding the coat-tails of his children. It is rather disturbing. You have his sons name placed around the community, now he is utilizing his daughter who is currently in Afghanistan for his own personal agenda...sound familiar Ed?? There are plenty of other residents who have children who past or present have served their country without being recognized for their service, living or not. But you seem to be using your position on council and your children,as said before for your own personal beliefs. If memory is correct you have thrown in the faces of other council members that you feel it is not appropriate to bring their own personal agendas or utilize council meetings for things like this. "

UncleStuy wrote on Oct 27, 2009 12:19 PM:

" The citizens of American Canyon voted all you into office to represent them in opinions and decisions that would affect or govern American Canyon. I suggest to stick to those issues and not bring up your own personal agendas. Your opinions have no bearing or influence regarding national issues. Stop wasting your time on this. "

AmCanBlogger wrote on Oct 27, 2009 12:44 PM:

" I made the post which was deleted; I admin being more than angry about Ms. Bennett's attitude; Senator Feinstein, who I have voted against election after election after election, is correct in her bold and moral break with her party to send more troops to the nation from which Islamic terrorists planned and executed the September 11, 2001 attacks on our soil that massacred 2,996 of our friends, family and coworkers. The Nation where they still require eradication. I agree that we DO need more troops, yet the President; the Commander In Chief, apparently has more time to go golfing, fundraising, attacking Fox News, and selling Chicago to the Olympic Committee than make a serious life and death decision concerning winning this war. In this I agree with Mr. West. So many of us seem to have forgotten those attacks. The placards of Crosses for Peace, and those other Bush Era anti war protesters are now also strangely nowhere to be seen; the formerly anti-war forces are suddenly silent. Must be because it's THEIR war now, and I sure wish they would decide to WIN it. "

AmCanBlogger wrote on Oct 27, 2009 1:01 PM:

" Nightwachman, tell me please how much time would you give a President and Commander In Chief (CIC) to make a YES or NO decision to send more troops to a country we are at war with? Days? Weeks? MONTHS? How long on a secure communications phone channel DO you need, listening to the military leaders who are THERE telling you in real time that they are needed? How long? Being careful is another way of describing a person who is practicing indecision, and can cost as many lives, if not more.
Many people also haven’t realized that President Bush is NOT in power anymore. The current President has ZERO military experience, and it is showing, and will also show in the death rolls unless he mans up and gets some skin in the game, as he likes to read off his teleprompter. President Bush had the military experience to be able to conduct business as CIC from his Crawford property. That CIC has been GONE since January 2009 – HAS the current CIC concentrated on getting those people who actually attacked us on September 11, 2001? Oooops, no – have to go to my Tee Time… BUSH IS GONE FOLKS. It is Obama’s War now. Win and fish, or cut bait and turn tail. "

msamcan wrote on Oct 27, 2009 1:13 PM:

" I can't believe that supporting our troops is wrong. For the many of you who pack up boxes and have the magnets on their cars this is not enough. I can't imagine losing a loved one because there wasn't enough troops.
Mr. West is not riding the coat tails of his children, and that was a low and nasty comment. "

doscentavos wrote on Oct 27, 2009 1:17 PM:

" The Commander in Chief is making an informed decision, not rushing into one which got us into this mess.

The recent elections have shown that the Afghani Govt is corrupt. Do we want to send more troops into a county without knowing who's running the country? Or the will of the people?

I say wait until the elections in Afghanistan are over and then know determine if we have a a pro-american govt or not. Diplomacy may work in the area.

AmCanblogger: you must be a dittohead because you definitely got the 'talking points memo" from Rush. "

gaslight wrote on Oct 27, 2009 1:41 PM:

" At issue here is Bennett's opposition to a proclamation regarding the war in Afghanistan based on her statement that this is not a "municipal issue". The question is how can Bennett possibly use that excuse with a straight face when she recently requested a city council proclamation supporting the gay marriage issue? THAT was a "municipal issue" and the war is not?? These people need to stop playing politics with their personal issues and get back to the work of the city. "

LMW wrote on Oct 27, 2009 1:45 PM:

" I believe we have received a resignation that is not sitting well with the boss "

bdnf wrote on Oct 27, 2009 2:13 PM:

" War in Afghanistan is not a municipal issue. Gay rights is. Why? Because gay people live in American Canyon, that's why! "

John Richards wrote on Oct 27, 2009 2:25 PM:

" gaslight is correct. Bennett is being two-faced when she says that the Afghan war is not a municipal issue, yet she wanted AC to come out against Prop 8, a state issue.

Although I'm in favor of a troop surge for Afghanistan (it worked in Iraq), I feel that national or state issues should not be discussed by a city council. Stick to the local issues we elected you for. "

Joe wrote on Oct 27, 2009 2:49 PM:

" 9/11 had nothing to do with the Invasion of Iraq. There were plans being made to invade Iraq before then. People say we should go after the people who attacked us as if it's that easy to just go into a foreign country with terrain like that and catch them. Saddam Hussein broke the cease fire agreement that stopped the Gulf War by not letting weapon inspectors into Iraq. The Clinton administration should have handled this instead of letting Saddam get away with it for eight years. The Clinton administration also should have done something about Bin Laden and Al Queda after all the attacks they carried out against Americans during the Clinton years. "

nightwatchman wrote on Oct 27, 2009 4:41 PM:

" "President Bush had the military experience to be able to conduct business as CIC from his Crawford property."

Hahahahahahaha!

So apparently Obama is "waffling" because he didn't get the valuable experience being AWOL from the Texas National Guard. I hope you didn't have a straight face when you were typing that one.

No, AmCan, you're right, it doesn't take any time at all to decide to send troops somewhere. It does take a long time to formulate a strategy to get them out.

He's not going to recklessly send thousands of our troops into harm's way without an exit strategy, which is one of the reasons he won the election. I would think that anyone who "supports the troops" would appreciate having an actual strategy while fighting a war. "

nightwatchman wrote on Oct 27, 2009 4:42 PM:

" Also, according to AmCan, as long as he had "military experience," he could be executing the duties of the presidency from Club Med! Sweet! "

Hear Ye wrote on Oct 27, 2009 5:39 PM:

" AmCanBlogger wrote on Oct 27, 2009 1:01 PM:"President Bush had the military experience to be able to conduct business as CIC from his Crawford property. "

You were being sarcastic, right? "

amcyn1968 wrote on Oct 27, 2009 5:47 PM:

" The people VOTED for proposition 8. IT FAILED. The people did not want it.

Sending more troops into Afghanistan does not go to the people for a vote.

A General who is in Afghanistan and had been given the job of running the war has said he needs more troops.

I never took how to run a war in school.
the General became a General because he knows his job.
The president is not a general running a war and has not ever been. Bush was not a general who had run a war. BBut he was wise enough to grant request that the Generals running the Afghanistan and Iraq war asked for.
He didnt put it on his calendar, he recognized that lives are in danger if there is not enough support on the ground and he made trying to keep our troops safe a priority.
Obama needs to realize every day he puts this issue on the back burner he is putting more lives in danger. "

Hear Ye wrote on Oct 27, 2009 6:30 PM:

" amcyn1968-

I hate to correct you with facts but Bush left a request for more troops in Afghanistan on the table for 8 months before leaving office. A request that Obama had to fulfill when he took office. We won't even get started on his neglect of soldiers pleas for better armor or his disregard of our injured vets.


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/oct/23/robert-gibbs/white-house-spokesman-robert-gibbs-fires-back-chen/ "

winemd wrote on Oct 27, 2009 8:33 PM:

" Soliders and their families live in American Canyon also.

However, I agree that neither prop 8 or wars should be the domain of any city council. "

carlon wrote on Oct 27, 2009 10:20 PM:

" Interesting change of heart from the group of officials who so strongly believed they should not waste the city's time by taking up the issue of equality. As a married lesbian couple who owns a home, pays taxes and raises our child in American Canyon it was heartbreaking to hear our elected officials dismiss our family. The same rules don't seem to apply here. "

edwest wrote on Oct 27, 2009 10:37 PM:

" Wow- Amcancando must be jealous that my son had a pool named after him to say the mean spirited and hurtful things that you say. But the moderator will refuse to print my comments if I call you for what you are? You are allowed to make accusations with no support and say things that only hurt me they hurt my children, and my wife. Good job moderator.

What have I done to ride their coat tails? My daughter donated $22K that she received for her sheep from very charitable donators to benefit the children and the pool program. I dedicate mor etimem to reading and researching American Canyon business than you can even imagine. Your jealousy is very troubling, I hope you get help. I am very proud of all three of my children and you would be so lucky to ride on their coat tails. I am sorry that you have nothing to ride on. OOPS I probably broke the rule with teh moderator. But then I sign my entries.

The Prop 8 comparison is rediculously apples and oranges. It was a constitutional amendment. It is the LAW and it was voted for by the majority of the voters in American Canyon. I swore to uphold the Constitution of California and the United States. There is no comparison between this and resolving that our troops deserve the best, including troop levels. All of you that keep arguing the war, good luck, but this resolution was about troops support, not the war or the President. TRUE TROOP SUPPORT- GIVE THEM WHAT THEY ASK FOR. "

Hear Ye wrote on Oct 27, 2009 11:52 PM:

" the Prop 8 comparison does have some validity in the sense that you said you have an obligation to stay focused on city issues when it came to the equal rights resolution. All of a sudden you don't feel that way with this resolution. Strange.

It's also fairly easy for one to be suspicious that this is merely a petty political statement based on the timing. When a troop request goes unanswered for countless months with the previous administration and we don't have a proposed resolution until this latest PR show by the Republicans then one can easily come to that conclusion.


BTW I do agree with you that a previous comment towards you by someone on here was entirely disgraceful and ridiculous. "

AmCanBlogger wrote on Oct 30, 2009 5:34 PM:

" Speaking of WAITING, it has ALREADY been TWO MONTHS since General Stanley A. Mc Chrystal’s reasonable request for additional troops was made on August 30th! The Obama administration has evasively played games with our military ops, they have hemmed and hawed while America needlessly lost 100 of our precious troops since August 30. 2009 (alone) - due mostly to an ineffectual Community Organizer’s 5-minute career, his gross incompetence, hatred of America, and his overweening pride. "

AmCanBlogger wrote on Oct 30, 2009 5:35 PM:

" Hey, C'mon, did you see where Fox News is the number one rated news show? People WANT to hear and see their product; they have thrown CNN into the waste bin! John Stewart is anything but balanced - he's much more to the left than anything. worshiping Fox, how stupid a comment can you get; they watch because they TRUST it, just as they do AM Radio. You are just jealous that the left no longer controls the media like they used to, and it hurts you! "

Hear Ye wrote on Oct 31, 2009 2:11 AM:

" Oh AmCan Bloogerr-

That's cute but far from the truth "

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