Time for local economic stimulus
By MICHAEL HALEY
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One form of economic stimulus that should not be controversial is for our county to change the winery definition ordinance to allow for more types of marketing events at wineries. Napa County can certainly use the business, and it is rather mystifying that we are not already doing this anyway.
It could be done without expanding the number of allowed events on each wineries permit, the suggestion being to simply allow different kinds of events. For example, if a meal could be served a winery could host a corporate dinner, showcasing their wines and not only making money off the event itself, but also introducing new potential customers to their wines for future business. It would also provide business for caterers, hotels, florists and possibly others, as those brought into the valley would probably go out to other businesses while here.
More controversial would be weddings, due to the fact that they can get large and loud. The fact is that many non-winery venues in Napa County are doing weddings successfully, like Meadowood and the Culinary Institute. Imagine a wedding taking place virtually across the street from the CIA at the Krug Winery, where most of us have been to an event, with a large number of attendees I might add, at one time or another.
Would a wedding at Krug have any different impact on the community than the weddings that are now taking place at the CIA? Or any of the other events being done at Krug that have hundreds of attendees? Yet at Krug it is now illegal to have a wedding simply because it is a winery.
Weddings won’t go away because they are a huge money maker and every other wine country around is doing them and making oodles of bucks and landing oodles of jobs for their businesses. It would be easy to write common sense rules to prevent weddings from getting out of hand and disrupting neighbors lives. It makes no sense for Napa to ban them from wineries.
The opposition to changing the winery definition ordinance seems to come down to trying to keep the ag preserve in some kind of purified state, nothing done here but growing grapes and making wine. Any other commercialization would be seen to diminish the value of wine making here.
There is some merit to that position, but it can reach an extreme point where it becomes more of a religious devotion to an ideal that does not exist than anything that is actually saving the ag preserve or making Napa more attractive to visitors.
Let’s face it, doing weddings would make Napa more attractive to visitors, especially the many who want to get married here at a winery. Weddings are an elegant event that don’t compare to selling t-shirts at wineries that say "I got drunk on $100 wine in Napa!" We would not lose the ambiance that makes Napa so special.
The other point is that it seems like right now more than ever people are afraid of change, we see it with the tea bag protests, and here in Napa we see it with strong opposition to doing just about anything new that comes up. People are afraid of change because change always necessarily involves heading into the unknown, and there are always unknown and unintended consequences to anything new. Easier to just hang on to what you know.
The problem with that is that change is happening whether you like it or not, and change is happening in Napa because the economy is getting hammered. And the truth is that carefully considered change like this usually turns out well.
Napa is going to have to change along with everyone else, and we may never have the level of sales of high end wines that we once had. That is a reality that we now have to deal with and may have to deal with for a long time. What it means is the nearly 9 percent unemployment that we now see here, and the huge drop-off in business.
We need to take steps now to address that, including changing the WDO to allow for more business, and we also need to put more money into marketing the Napa Valley through the Destination Council which is the marketing arm of local industry.
Our elected leaders throughout the county should reinvest a much greater percentage of the TOT tax into marketing Napa Valley through the Napa Valley Destination Council, our countywide tourism management organization.
We must have some flexibility and fluidity to respond to changing times, and we can do that without endangering what we have that is so important to all of us.
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steph wrote on Sep 24, 2009 10:49 AM:
This is REAL stimulus, as opposed to borrowing MORE money from our children for a temporary patching of our severe economic problems.
Aren't many wineries designed to host large groups of people?
Like the opposition toward the wine train in St. Helena, for the life of me, I cannot understand the hostility toward tourism and revenue in this valley.
There could be really great ideas to facilitate these weddings: have shuttles from hotels to wineries (and back) for the guests, keep noise indoors after 8pm, etc.
Such ventures would increase the value of the wineries and bring revenues to our valley.
Get government out of the way so our economy can prosper! "
bornin74 wrote on Sep 25, 2009 12:42 PM:
What about those drunks getting in their cars and DRIVING......not everyone will take a shuttle....NOT everyone will stay in the hotel....they willdrive home to the Bay Area even more SLOSHED than when they normally come here to wine taste.....but yes, let's change ANOTHER law to help WINERY owners make even more money.....
Hey, I have an idea, maybe those wineries,should "downsize" and CUTBACK just like every other human being......get back to the basics and start anew.....Why should we stimulate the wineries??????It's like stimulating the auto indusrty...BAILING out people who built HUGE FACILITIES with a gluttenous atitude, and now it smacks them in the face.....boo hoo...let this whole economy take a dump......let's get back to people actually having to people being fiscally responsible without the notion of a bailout......
While we are changing teh ordinances round here for wineries, let's change them for use permits for music...a BAND STIMULUS.....or wait, how about changing the ordinances for a 10:00 curfew...kind of like a teenage stimulus...silly isn't it...... "
LMW wrote on Sep 25, 2009 3:47 PM:
steph wrote on Sep 25, 2009 5:18 PM:
What is being proposed is exactly the opposite of a bailout--it's about allowing wineries to generate revenue on their own that is shared with their employees and associated businesses, and about generating tax revenues for our citizens, and keeping people employed locally, and allowing businesses to share the beauty of their properties with people who want to have parties there--by getting government out of the way of reasonable business.
Wineries employ PEOPLE.
What is so hard to understand? "
napablogger wrote on Sep 25, 2009 11:16 PM:
They don't have to host them if they don't want to, this is in no sense a bail out. Bornin74, your comment makes no sense whatsoever. People are coming here to drink wine anyway, and this economic stimulus is removing regulation, not a bail out.
Your comment just seems to be hostility toward the wine industry with no rationale reason.
And bands, I am all for that too. "
alucawanza wrote on Sep 26, 2009 5:15 PM:
We hired an Evans bus to take our guests home (especially the wedding party) at our daughter's and son's weddings. We didn't want the event to be marred by a drinking accident. It worked very well. The driver was very accomodating and the cost was reasonable.
The winery will charge you for a one night insurance policy which you will have to get on your own...probably on your homeowners'. They will want all liability and damage covered.
Imagine the bride and groom posing in a vineyard. Beautiful.
Such an economically sound business. I've heard that wineries aren't producing as much this year because they have last year's inventory still to sell. Anyone heard about this? "
napablogger wrote on Sep 26, 2009 7:41 PM:
Wine business on high end wine is way down. Prices are dropping. Sales are good, however, on wines below $20. "
City Resident wrote on Sep 29, 2009 9:54 AM:
I quote you "Your comment just seems to be hostility toward the wine industry with no rationale reason"
If you were to replace the words wine industry with public safety, this sounds very much like you "
notpc wrote on Sep 29, 2009 11:20 AM:
napablogger wrote on Sep 29, 2009 8:18 PM:
In this case one example would be that I think that 90% of your highest salary at age 50 as a retirement is too high, and it is bankrupting the state.
That doesnt mean I am against fire fighters or police, I just want to be fair to taxpayers and to save the government from bankruptcy.
notpc, how I am making a buck from this? all I seem to be getting here is dishonest abuse. "
city resident wrote on Sep 30, 2009 7:12 AM:
Perhaps you should go back and review some of your writings.
You are absolutely entitled to your opinion, as am I. Where we differ is mine is an informed opinion. I requested, on your blog that you do a ride along with the Fire Dept. and actually experience what being a firefighter means. You have failed to do this.
The firefighters have requested on more than one occasion that you come and meet with them, to better educate your self on what being a firefighter means. You have failed to do this.
Your opinion would definitely carry more validity, at least with me if you took the time to educate yourself on this topic. Again just my opinion "
napablogger wrote on Sep 30, 2009 8:40 AM:
I have met with them anyway, one of them, the head of the union.
I think they are well trained and do an excellent job which I have said on other occasions in public. I have no problem with them personally or professionally.
You and others keep wanting to turn this into something personal about my feelings about them as people. My concern is the government budget and taxpayer issues.
Someone needs to speak to the taxpayers side on pay issues.
The public doesn't even really know how much safety employees are making to make an informed decision and getting real information is like pulling teeth. "
city resident wrote on Sep 30, 2009 11:45 AM:
My request was for you to educate your self and spend a day with them, you refer to that as propagandizing? Again this is just my opinion but that doesn’t appear to be a very open minded attitude. I would think you would want the factual truth before writing your column. It appears you have formed your opinions without seeking all of the facts.
And during the brief phone conversation you had with the “head of the union” …was it really to seek facts, was it entered into with that intent and were you open minded? "
Mom2 wrote on Sep 30, 2009 3:57 PM:
JustAnotherManicMonday wrote on Oct 1, 2009 10:48 AM:
napablogger wrote on Oct 2, 2009 12:23 PM:
And I do have my facts straight, thank you very much. "
city resident wrote on Oct 2, 2009 3:44 PM:
My request was for you to see what it actually means to be a firefighter, no what they do.
Most people know what they do, and very few people actually know what it means to live life as a firefighter. I am sure you feel your facts are accurate, I just happen to disagree.
Can you please answer me one question? What would you consider fair compensation for being a firefighter? What would you do it for? Ok 2 questions. "
notpc wrote on Oct 3, 2009 9:00 PM:
city resident wrote on Oct 4, 2009 5:53 PM:
Please do not ignore the 2 questions before you, What would you consider fair compensation for living the life of a firefighter, What would you do it for?
I feel this is a fair question...You openly voice that the firefighters are over compensated, without knowing the true meaning of the profession. Please share with us what you would consider fair compensation if you were to live the same life. "
alucawanza wrote on Oct 5, 2009 5:11 PM:
Everyone is allowed to have their own opinions. It's freedom of speech. If someone feels that firefighters' pensions are too high, and someone else feels they are earned and adequate, you are both entitled to your opinions. Neither of you is ever going to convince or badger the other into thinking otherwise. Give it up.
Let's get back to the beauty of a wedding in a winery and how the law about this needs to be changed in Napa county. "
city resident wrote on Oct 5, 2009 7:35 PM:
I don’t feel like I should have to “Give Up” anything, did I tell you to “Give up on weddings at wineries?...No I did not, I respect your opinion, as you should respect mine. Like you stated “It’s freedom of speech”. All I did was ask Napabloggers opinion on a topic in an open forum. I certainly would not, nor have I ever begrudged you your feelings or opinions and I would appreciate it if you paid me the same courtesy. "
alucawanza wrote on Oct 6, 2009 7:20 PM:
I don't believe you are asking Napablogger's opinion. He already gave it.
I don't begrudge you your feelings or opinions. I just think your posts are not on topic. But, I'm not in charge of this feature. Post away..
Have a nice evening... "
napablogger wrote on Oct 7, 2009 10:45 AM:
However, the general point still applies that wineries within the unincorporated county that were not operating before the WDO passed are not allowed to do weddings.
While I am writing, it has also been pointed out to me that the economic stimulus portion of this argument all depends on assuming that there are weddings that would take place here if there were more venues to have them.
We now have numerous venues including grandfathered in wineries that perform weddings, and the only way it would bring more money into the valley is if there were weddings that would be brought here that otherwise wouldn't. Many are dubious of that point. "
glenroy wrote on Oct 14, 2009 7:01 AM: