Legal challenge to city may benefit Napa Pipe developer
By JILLIAN JONES
Register Staff Writer
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The lawsuit filed against the city of Napa last week over its alleged failure to encourage low-income housing never mentions the words “Napa Pipe.”
Yet as the city prepares for a legal tussle with affordable housing advocate David Grabill, local leaders say the lawsuit could be good news for the mixed-use development proposed just outside Napa’s city limits.
“What it means is Napa Pipe is more likely to develop in the manner in which the developer is proposing, because we need the housing, whether it’s in the county or the city,” Napa County Supervisor Mark Luce said.
Developers are proposing a mixed-use development featuring 2,580 townhomes at Napa Pipe, the former industrial site in the south county. Environmental studies of the project are well under way, and the Napa County Board of Supervisors is scheduled to vote on the project in 2010. City leaders, however, are hoping to bring the project under city jurisdiction because they are worried about the impact of such a large project so close to town.
This past week saw a flurry of activity affecting the project.
On Tuesday, supervisors approved a housing strategy that both anticipates housing at Napa Pipe and calls for resumed negotiations with the city of Napa about annexation of the Napa Pipe . Under the proposal, the city would get jurisdiction over Napa Pipe in exchange for taking on the county’s housing mandates from the state.
Last Thursday, Grabill sued the city over its housing plans, asserting the city is doing too little to promote affordable housing and is out of compliance with state law.
Luce and others say Grabill’s suit against the city could stall housing negotiations between the city and county. The city may not be able to take on any more housing if its housing plan is under fire, Luce said, especially if city officials refuse — as they have indicated they might — to allow development at Napa Pipe.
“Assuming there’s any validity in the lawsuit at all … it does bring into question the city’s ability to really offer to provide the county housing,” Luce said. “If they get bogged down in the unknowns around this lawsuit, it may be a year or more before we actually have enough clarity about what they can or can’t do to engage in a decision, and by that time Napa Pipe development in the county could be well down the road, so it does make the in-city options less viable.”
Supervisor Diane Dillon agrees that talks with the city may be difficult. The county would hope to enter a housing agreement with the city. But, she said, “I would suspect that not having a (legal) Housing Element could preclude them from those kinds of things.”
Mike Parness, Napa’s city manager, dismissed concerns that the lawsuit could tie up negotiations. He said the suit won’t hinder talks “unless it’s successful, and we don’t think it will be.”
Napa Mayor Jill Techel said she is also confident that the city will successfully defend the suit and resume negotiations with the county.
She added that the timing of Grabill’s lawsuit seems odd, coming just days after the county embarked on a plan to resume talks with the city.
“They may be trying to stop any potential negotiations or a deal until this gets resolved, or they may be trying to divert attention, but that’s all pure speculation,” Parness said.
Parness said some city officials have been suspicious of the motives behind recent attacks on the city’s Housing Element, including a blistering letter from former Napa County Planning Commissioner David Graves in May.
“We knew that (Napa Pipe developer Keith) Rogal is very threatened by the fact that the city has offered to incorporate some of the county’s housing stock in order to avoid massive housing outside our border,” Parness said. “Whether he is behind this or not, I have no idea.”
Rogal denied involvement in the lawsuit against the city.
“I don’t know why there is a persistent pattern where when the city receives what might be viewed as a criticism or a challenge from residents like city residents or neighbors or in this case a guy with a particular ax to grind … that public officials toss out (accusations),” Rogal said. “It seems to me unseemly and unprofessional and not very productive.”
Rogal said he has spoken with Grabill, but maintains they never discussed the lawsuit.
“I talked to David Grabill at a workforce housing meeting,” Rogal said. “He came up to me and shook my hand six months ago … and several years ago he asked me to talk about what our proposal was for Napa Pipe. The guy’s a housing advocate. That’s what he does.”
Grabill also denies that Napa Pipe developers are involved in the lawsuit.
“I don’t represent the Napa Pipe developers,” Grabill said. “Have I ever talked to them? I have talked to them. I know their concerns, but I represent the Latinos Unidos de Napa. It’s a group I’ve worked with for five years, and that’s the only group that I represent in this lawsuit.”
Grabill, who declined to name any individual plaintiffs in this suit, also represented Latinos Unidos de Napa in 2003 when he sued Napa County on behalf of two farmworkers who alleged that the county was not developing enough affordable housing. The suit led to a housing deal between Napa County and the cities of Napa and American Canyon.
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vocal-de-local wrote on Sep 23, 2009 1:06 AM:
Stuff like this is the driving force behind over-population. I just don't understand why a person from another county would be a catalyst for more growth somewhere else. It appears to me as though affordable housing lawsuits are being used as a tool of mega developers.
Another thing to consider is that in nature "expense" keeps population growth in check. Perhaps such "expense" makes life hard, but it also discourages exponential rates of reproduction. It's not such a bad thing to have homes beyond "affordable" if it discourages excess growth.
We have limited resources. If we don't do something, nature will do it for us and it's not going to be pretty. We can start by allowing "expense" to take it's natural course instead of always trying to "fix" everything for people who should reconsider having six kids when they can't afford any; or enabling them to own more when they cannot handle the responsibilities of life before home ownership.
And speaking of "ownership", we value what we earn, whether it's earned through sweat equity or by working overtime. I'm tired of dealing with an "enabled" society who views everything as "disposable" because they didn't work very hard to earn it.
Time to just say "stop". Isn't there some way to make Grabhill pay legal expenses if he loses? "
Cadence wrote on Sep 23, 2009 6:55 AM:
Once again, low-income housing and affordable housing used interchangeably, and the terms have different meanings, per ABAG.
Latinos Unidos farmworkers most likely won't be living at "affordable" Napa Pipe in brand new townhomes. They probably won't sail to work on water taxis or ride the rails to their vineyards.
So - under the guise of farmworkers needs, a multi-thousand unit complex will be built and the farmworkers will STILL need low cost housing!
Ok, where do you wanna put THAT?
I concur with Paddy who suggested the for sale Silverado Resort grounds. "
NAPA66 wrote on Sep 23, 2009 7:38 AM:
cheezcakemaker wrote on Sep 23, 2009 9:01 AM:
"Isn't there some way to make Grabhill pay legal expenses if he loses? "
Remember a few years back when the enviro radical group in St. Helena holding up the entire flood control project?
To the best of anyone's knowledge, they had no constituancy. And (please correct me if I am wrong) included in the lawsuit against the city of St. Helena was a request for money to pay the lawyer(s) of this ragtag group 'for their time and efforts'. "
napablogger wrote on Sep 23, 2009 9:40 AM:
I agree with Rogal on this one, Grabill who I have also heard talk in meetings is an affordable housing advocate, period. The city and the county's plans both don't provide for much affordable housing for workers. What we do provide for, however, is McMansion after McMansion in the hillsides.
I have touted my idea with both County and City Council persons, but I don't see why the City doesn't allow Napa Pipe and this time let the city put some of its required housing units at Napa Pipe. That way we could cut down some overgrowth in the city.
Otherwise we are going to see Trancas and other main routes in the city get overcrowded with traffic.
I don't think it is helpful in politics for everyone to start psycho-analyzing other people's motives. There is no real way to know, anyway, and all it does is alienate the other side. Grabill wants affordable housing, because that is what he does.
He is not a bad guy, in fact he is right that we are not supplying enough. I disagree with his methods and it would be better to work things out without this, however.
Remember what I have been saying about PUC and Grabill. He will sue there too if the county reneges on that one. "
amazed wrote on Sep 23, 2009 9:47 AM:
notpc wrote on Sep 23, 2009 10:44 AM:
tazzmaster wrote on Sep 23, 2009 11:13 AM:
vocal-de-local wrote on Sep 23, 2009 11:25 AM:
The reason? Statistically, Hispanics have larger families than others. The Napa Pipe project is not geared toward large families and I doubt these units are going to be particularly affordable by comparison.
Farmworkers will be faced with a choice of renting a three bdrm house in a rundown neighborhood or renting a two bedroom condo at Napa Pipe which will probably have higher regulations on multi family use. Farmworker families will still be renting the three bedroom single family home in Napa and their rent will be cheaper because they are dividing it among, say, ten people.
From my observation in certain areas where I live, a Hispanic family rents a home and a transient population of different people continuously pass through, making their contribution to rent without coming up with first, last and a deposit. Interestingly, this is happening all year long, not just during agricultural production peak times. So... there must be some other type of employment (not related to grapes) keeping this population of transients coming and going all year long.
When I was looking for a house for my son to buy, I actually toured a short sale house with numerous occupants living under one roof. None of them spoke English but I was still able to put two and two together about who occupied each bedroom. There were multiple mattresses in each room but the master bedroom was only occupied by what I call the head couple. Numerous kids were in one bedroom and the other two rooms were occupied by groups of adult males. There were probably twelve people living there. Will Napa Pipe tolerate that? "
napablogger wrote on Sep 23, 2009 11:32 AM:
All these conspiracy theories are without foundation. "
Straight Talk wrote on Sep 23, 2009 11:36 AM:
Unless, could it be, that the County Supervisors are so intent on building Napa Pipe they are actually hopeful the City of Napa will be entangled in a lawsuit?
Supervisor Luce, unfortunately, states "Napa Pipe is more likely to develop in the manner in which the developer is proposing, because we need the housing." I'm more familiar with a process where we work with developers to build to our needs not just what a developer proposes. Guess we should all prepare for 2,580 townhomes at Napa Pipe.
Equally unfortunate, are Mr. Luce's statements that: "Assuming there’s any validity in the lawsuit … it does bring into question the city’s ability to really offer to provide the county housing... If they get bogged down in the unknowns... the county could be well down the road (with Napa Pipe), so it does make the in-city options less viable.”
Huh? How unclear is that? Assumptions, IFs, unknowns, could-be... all leading to a conclusion that "in-city options are less viable and Napa Pipe is the only logical conclusion."
The City of Napa currently has an approved Housing Element. The filing of a lawsuit from a Santa Rosa lawyer on behalf of two people does not negate an HCD approved Housing Element. And it would be nice to see our County Supervisors speak in a more positive way about the City at a time when we are trying to work together. If that is still our mutual goal. "
5th generation napan wrote on Sep 23, 2009 11:41 AM:
Mark can go back to Chevron where he belongs.
This town wants everything possible making people work close to home EXCEPT the JOBS! "
napalove wrote on Sep 23, 2009 11:46 AM:
Ballermjq wrote on Sep 23, 2009 12:25 PM:
notpc wrote on Sep 23, 2009 12:26 PM:
napalove wrote on Sep 23, 2009 12:28 PM:
winelover80 wrote on Sep 23, 2009 12:38 PM:
littleonett wrote on Sep 23, 2009 1:02 PM:
manman wrote on Sep 23, 2009 1:15 PM:
thank you "
urte wrote on Sep 23, 2009 2:22 PM:
Napa needs affordable housing period...Keith Rogal has a plan...I can't think of a better use for that parcel of land as what is being proposed...
Maybe...just maybe...if we had more affordable housing for young families and singles starting out ...there would be more decent accomodations for seasonal farm workers and they would not have to live in "run down"...as someone said...housing in bad neighborhoods...
We certainly do not need any more multi-million dollar mansions....we have plenty of those...we need housing for us "common folk"... "
winewoman wrote on Sep 23, 2009 4:33 PM:
vocal-de-local wrote on Sep 23, 2009 5:47 PM:
Oh yes it does. No one has the right to build an area beyond the capacity of it's natural resources. If natural resources (water for example) in an area require seeking those natural resources in faraway places (the Delta), which require a great deal of taxpayer and other resources to connect up to, then it's not really a natural resource. "Natural resources" should be those resources which can be obtained within a "reasonable" distance to those developments in need of them.
Where's the water coming from Napalove? How much burden will be put upon citizens of Napa County to pay for the unnatural outreach to access even more water?
People need to be aware that we have a water problem in California. We face further depletion as the State increases its population. Development of more houses only serves to facilitate a continuously growing population. Do we have the water to support this growth longterm? Any short term solutions to water acquisition will not suffice.
We need to challenge this lawsuit on grounds of environmental damage/limited resources due to population growth which housing feeds. It should be "illegal" to force growth in areas which lack enough local resources to support it. Any environmental law geniuses out there willing to take this challenge on?
And btw, do all of you "new" posters who all arrived here in about one day think we don't see through your strategy? "
Cadence wrote on Sep 23, 2009 6:46 PM:
Wonder why so many continue to sit vacant? These are city homes with existing public safety services, existing roads, existing schools, and are served by the existing VINE buses. They are close to jobs. Nothing could be greener or more convenient.
Anyone who cannot now qualify for and afford a modest foreclosure won't be able to qualify for and afford the "affordable" townhomes at the Pipe.
Surprised? Didn't think borrowers had to qualify for those affordable homes?
Think again.
And most ironic of all, homes priced and sold to The Deserving Ones as "affordable" elsewhere during boom times - ummm, some of those homes are currently as underwater as their overpriced neighbors. They bought at below market value and still are subject to the vagaries of the free market. "
napalove wrote on Sep 23, 2009 7:31 PM:
As for the water issue that everyone try's to use as a soap box issue and exclaim it as an almost end of days situation, maybe you should look at the independent water studies that show that Napa Pipe has enough ground water to service itself and may even have extra water with out having to use City water or disrupt any ag or other local uses. "
So It Goes wrote on Sep 23, 2009 8:18 PM:
Vocal-de-local
Straight Talk
Notpc
NAPA66
You just make too much sense.
You bring up too many valid points.
You are saying what many Napans have been thinking for a long time.
Keep it up.
You're making "Team Rogal" bloggers work for their paycheck tonight. "
vocal-de-local wrote on Sep 24, 2009 4:03 PM:
It doesn't make much sense to spend tons of taxpayer money to first study the feasibility of accessing water in faraway places, and then fighting for its access when water is already abundant in our backyard, right?
Napa Pipe developers may "think" they own those water rights, but water has a tricky ability to extend beyond property borders because it's typically underground in large pools. In reality, they don't own it. And if Napa is deficient in water, they should consider creative ways of accessing those underground pools and diverting it to those already developed areas who need it NOW.
BTW, water is increasingly becoming a battleground here in California. Does Napa County/City really want to enter a situation where they are at the mercy of water agencies elsewhere, who will undoubtedly increase rationing as California's population grows? Does it make sense to increase our own population through housing availability, further increasing dependency on water when we are already struggling with deficiencies? Where's the common sense?
And you deduce it down to a soap box, end of days scenario? Do you have any consideration for our future or is this all about "you" and making certain your money hungry partners satiate their appetite for green paper? "
napalove wrote on Sep 25, 2009 5:28 PM:
Vocal de local...I'd still like to hear your response to my comment on the last article regarding Napa Pipe. Are you still wanting California to follow China's lead or...?
So it goes...you should speak on the topic instead of just patting everybody on the back. "
vocal-de-local wrote on Sep 26, 2009 12:02 AM:
The entirety of Napa County is my first priority. My next big concern is California. Moving further outward, I consider the implications of excess population on our Country, and I am worried.
There was a point in my life where I looked at population growth from a global perspective. I've since come to the conclusion that it's nearly an impossible task addressing/influencing population growth outside of our own country because of cultural differences.
I feel as though we must address population growth moving inward to outward rather than the other way around. This means we should make an effort to slow growth down beginning in our Cities and Counties. We should stop the Napa Pipes from developing because it WILL result in increased levels of population.
And WHY do most people not like this type of growth? If you take five people and put them on one acre of land, it's not uncomfortable. People aren't "in your face and in your space". Humans instinctively know that crowding is not healthy. It leads to greater degrees of illness and stress, and lowers the quality of life. Take that same acre and add a hundred people. Get the point? That's why we don't want Napa Pipe. Too much crowding is unhealthy. Over population is unhealthy. And now, we are facing a future of competing with an over populated world for resources. It's time to slow people growth down, not speed it up for the purpose of making big bucks. "
vocal-de-local wrote on Sep 26, 2009 12:47 AM:
Google the following articles with quotation marks:
"Overpopulation is world’s No.1 environmental issue" New York University
"Immigration and overpopulation: you can eat too much and grow too fat." by Frosty Wooldridge "