County OKs housing plan with Napa Pipe in the mix
Supervisor vote on mixed-use project still months away
By JILLIAN JONES
Register Staff Writer
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The proposed development at the former Napa Pipe site is looking more attractive to county officials as it becomes clear that pressure from the state to build affordable housing isn’t going to let up any time soon.
On Tuesday, the Napa County Board of Supervisors unanimously approved a long-term housing strategy that acknowledges the mixed-use Napa Pipe proposal as a reasonable solution to the county’s housing dilemma.
The county’s housing plan features 10 strategies, including a promise to continue lobbying for changes to the state law that imposes new housing requirements every seven years on counties and cities. Meeting affordable housing mandates has long been Napa County’s Achilles’ heel.
But the board-approved plan mentions only one development by name: Napa Pipe.
Supervisor Mark Luce said the state housing mandate is in “direct conflict with our General Plan goals of protecting agriculture and open space, but it’s, nonetheless, state law. … Another couple thousand units has to be zoned somewhere in the next 20 years, and that’s where Napa Pipe just stands out as a wonderful solution to that problem.”
The mixed-use development proposed at the south-county Napa Pipe site features 2,580 townhomes phased in over about 20 years.
“If we could actually have an agreement with the (state) that the county would satisfy its next three housing (allotments) through project approval here, “ Luce said, “then we basically have avoided the need to zone any land for residential use outside of city limits, apart from Napa Pipe.”
The housing plan approved on Tuesday allows for four possible scenarios regarding Napa Pipe..
First, the county will negotiate a development agreement with Napa Pipe developers to phase in residential development over the next 20 to 25 years. Twenty percent of the homes must be affordable.
The county will also negotiate a three-party agreement with Napa Pipe developers and the state. Under this option, the county would get credit toward future housing requirements for participating in a pilot program to monitor workforce housing and greenhouse gas emissions at Napa Pipe.
The county will also see if a deal can be struck with the city of Napa in which the city would take on the county’s housing requirements. In return, the county would agree to support placing the Napa Pipe site in the city’s sphere of influence — a key step toward annexing the site into the city.
Similar talks between the city and county failed last year, but Napa Mayor Jill Techel said she looks forward to resuming negotiations with the county.
“I am pleased that we’re part of the strategies that they’re looking at and I think it’s probably time for us to start these conversations up again,” Techel said.
The fourth scenario approved by the board Tuesday includes considering the Napa Pipe project without any sort of development agreement.
Napa Pipe developer Keith Rogal said he is pleased with the outcome of Tuesday’s vote.
“A long-term housing strategy that includes Napa Pipe — the largest, centrally-located, already-paved piece of property ever to become available in the county — is a wise public policy choice for the county,” Rogal said.
Supervisors said that while the county included Napa Pipe in its overall housing strategy, the move does not necessarily signal approval of the project, which is expected to come up for public hearings and a vote in the next several months.
“It’s an indication that we’re trying to get our housing numbers solved in whatever way we possibly can,” said Supervisor Brad Wagenknecht. “I don’t think there’s a real change in direction in this.”
Supervisor Keith Caldwell agreed. “I think that we sent a clear message that (Napa Pipe) is certainly one of the options that the Board of Supervisors has available to meet its overall program needs. … (but) I think that there are other options within those 10 that are just as important as the Napa Pipe option.”
Other strategies approved Tuesday include working with private property owners such as nonprofits to add housing stock, and looking for ways to locate new homes in the cities rather than unincorporated areas of Napa County.
The county has also agreed to consider the use of surplus county-owned land for affordable housing. A study into whether and where this is possible should be out by the end of 2011.
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Steelhead wrote on Sep 18, 2009 1:13 AM:
jpjpjp wrote on Sep 18, 2009 8:00 AM:
Look at downtown!! Etc.. isn't it lovely??? All the millions spent and still nobody goes downtown!! "
klr wrote on Sep 18, 2009 8:21 AM:
I talked with a gentleman trying to sell me on affordable housing at Napa Pipe. Being an appraiser, I told him affordable housing has no real value in the free market. The government controls the "rent" or "price" people pay. Our appraised value is whatever the government determines the "price" is. Affordable housing would be better stated as "socialist housing". "
NAPA66 wrote on Sep 18, 2009 8:35 AM:
jefferson wrote on Sep 18, 2009 8:39 AM:
They continually put money into "studying the feasibility" of Napa Pipe.
They proposals 4 out of 10 including Napa Pipe.
Keith Rogal is happy.
And, then they say they are only considering the possibility of Napa Pipe.
The dots don't connect.
Straight shooting isn't being practiced. "
besmartbesafe wrote on Sep 18, 2009 9:19 AM:
444888 wrote on Sep 18, 2009 9:59 AM:
Downtown Napa is going through FANTASTIC changes and we, as a community of Napa are extremely lucky to have developers/investors willing to take a 'long term' commitment for our City! These projects are so expensive and I say THANK YOU for investing in our City/County of Napa- I believe we can create a thriving, exciting community. I am a huge supporter of Napa Pipe project and here is a piece of land, eye sore- entrance into 'downtown' that will connect hundreds of more people who will support our community. While saving our precious agriculture environment- ie: not more infill in City. Napa Pipe will provide affordable housing with a great vision for bike paths, goals for light rail, & reusing land that just screams for a beautiful neighborhood. Here we have a company who wants to clean up the area , provide our county and city with a win win ! Go Napa Pipe and Go Downtown Napa !!!! "
thisisnotatest wrote on Sep 18, 2009 10:50 AM:
The extra population will help us. My son may even be able to get a job when he graduates. "
TAXPAYER wrote on Sep 18, 2009 11:05 AM:
Who's property is it?
If you want to control it, buy it!
There is more healthy fish in the river than there has been in the last 60 years.
Have a nice day. "
Sickothis wrote on Sep 18, 2009 11:12 AM:
napalove wrote on Sep 18, 2009 11:18 AM:
manman wrote on Sep 18, 2009 11:30 AM:
a million bucks wrote on Sep 18, 2009 11:46 AM:
bennyd wrote on Sep 18, 2009 11:57 AM:
reason-ator wrote on Sep 18, 2009 11:59 AM:
Perhaps if we don't want housing under the State's guidlelines we could just not build housing at all. "
Cadence wrote on Sep 18, 2009 12:01 PM:
In fact, there will be residences on ag land before the Pipe is completed - not all newcomers are willing to move into townhomes.
Per the NVR, Dan Monez intends to challenge " state mandates for growth and residential density in Napa County." Finally!
If I could vote for Dan Monez, I might - in spite of his support of Napa Pipe. "
napalove wrote on Sep 18, 2009 12:10 PM:
besmartbesafe wrote on Sep 18, 2009 12:11 PM:
Lexme2 wrote on Sep 18, 2009 12:28 PM:
LMW wrote on Sep 18, 2009 12:40 PM:
committees, sub committees, commissions, non-profits, businesses,
chambers, districts....altogether we are
responsible for how Napa County looks and how it has been paved and the performance.
Time and place for everything. Now is time we allow citizens in this state to come first. we support a well thoughtout plan, good
for the people and how they will live. Whether homeowner, renter, affordable
housing tenant, it's looking at the big picture. If we wish to discuss workforce, housing, I would think a mindset that sees the needs for moving America in transportation and where we need to live is on board here cause there are residents in our existing neighborhoods that do not have the time and energy to fight for their rights at their homes. Allow thoughts for them when we vision slapping in a few
units here and there. "
Paddy wrote on Sep 18, 2009 1:27 PM:
The 19th century mentality of pave over open space and pack people into those places is not what we need.
Napa real estate has remained relatively stable because we don't have this type of over-building. Those communities who have allowed it the past 10 years are the ones in dire straights right now. You'd think we'd learn a lesson from the mishap of others. "
napkin56 wrote on Sep 18, 2009 2:26 PM:
winelover80 wrote on Sep 18, 2009 2:32 PM:
Jay Jacobson wrote on Sep 18, 2009 4:07 PM:
But that is our job as citizens to be part of the approval process. There is going to be development on this site and it will have to be of a kind that can pay for the mitigation of the toxic materials that are already there. They are not going to clean themselves up. Conversely, this is an 'urban' project as it is now being envisioned and must be brought into the cities sphere-of-influence and eventually annexed. Those are the rules that apply to everyone else. The development must pay its own way and further it must compensate for coming into the game late 'in the fourth quarter' when all of the existing infrastructure sewer, water, schools, public saftey, etc. have all been previously paid for.
No free lunch for Napa Pipe either. "
tazzmaster wrote on Sep 18, 2009 4:46 PM:
kalinga wrote on Sep 18, 2009 5:30 PM:
It was the city and county which destroyed hundreds of units of low income housing with their planning and federal money, it's these people who drive you off your land for trying to do the minimal improvements.
Why don't the county lawyers who attack average citizens fight these state mandates in court instead?
Because they are very comfortable with them, and they are happy to use any excuse to run or ruin your life.
Our Napa county and city governments are crime organizations which now exist merely to extort money from us, and to drive us away so we can be replaced with outsiders who will give them more money, who will in turn be driven away as well to bring in more victims to extort.
These bureaucrats are enslaving us.
It's all a fraud, and I fear only the second amendment, practiced by millions of americans, can save us. "
napa1957 wrote on Sep 18, 2009 11:59 PM:
vocal-de-local wrote on Sep 23, 2009 3:57 PM:
Regarding anyone who claims they will challenge state mandates - be careful that it's not lip service. HOW are they going to do this?
Also, I noticed a whole bunch of new blogging names here, all supporters of Napa Pipe, whom I've never seen post here before. How many of these were "asked" to blog here for the purpose of making it appear like there's more support for Napa Pipe than there really is? "
realitybites wrote on Oct 1, 2009 2:38 PM: