" I will vote the same as I did for Props 22 and 8!

Why waste more money and time, again? "

" I say push this into the 2010 election like there’s no tomorrow! Don’t wait; spend all of your money now while you still have it. The 2012 election is to far off, and you don’t actually think all those voters that voted “yes on 8” will remember do you? Na they won’t! So spend your money supporting a losing battle and spend it like a sailor on shore leave. "

" Here is your answer, Please get everyone you know to give moneys,all Hollywood and The Senate while your at it, make sure that the 4 other states that have just been forced to allow samesex marriage Just magicely win in all upcomming ballots and elections, then Pass that Hate Bill and Transgender (restroom) laws ,Boy wont Mom and my 4 year old like seeing man in Dress then put an end to Dont Ask and Dont Tell, then repeal of DOMA, and if that aint enough change please let me know of what more frets the activists have demanded of america...just let me know we will get to work on those for you. "

" Yes please waste more money on frivolous propositions that people have already voted NO on TWICE ALREADY!!
And people wonder why California is in such a deficit, we should be pouring money into schools instead of squandering on useless issues such as this. "

" Funny how ones own money has a way of determining rational actions. "

" I've been saying the same all along, and it never failed to bring a guttural reaction from the far left posters like Raven and equalnotspecial.
But if the pro-gay marriage folks want to blow their wad on a useless 2010 attempt, let them go right ahead... "

" We all know that the general liberal philosophy is to throw money at a problem, as long as it's not YOUR money.

California's broke because of it, and so will go the entire nation. Nothing new there. "

" UGH here we go again!!!I wouldn't like to spend my time in something that has been lost....and has no chances of winning...now don't get me wrong I don't have anything against Gay people...but C'mon whats going to happend next... they are going to demand transgender Fitting rooms and restroom at public places... It has already been said..either way you can still dress freely... go where ever you want and ect.... "

" Just eliminate the ban on gay marriage and get it over with. Personally, I don't know why anyone would want to be married, gay or straight, but if they do, let them. Who is it going to hurt? No one is going to suggest you marry your dog or your camel or your cousin, but all rights should be equal. Don't believe the propaganda by the churches that spent millions to deny equal rights. Give everyone exactly the same rights and tune out the right wing dissenters who believe their own marriages will be affected by someone else's. Does what happens in your marriage depend on the people next door? No, it depends on how you and your spouse feel about each other. No one is going to be "forced" to perform a gay marriage just like no doctor is "forced" to perform abortions just because they are legal. Get over yourselves, people and mind your own business. "

" Funny how there was never even a peep from the right wingers while W was throwing trillions down the Iraq rat hole. But spending money on elections or anything else here at home - oooh, they're so upset! "

" 50 years ago I have no doubt most of you would be first in line to throw stones and scream racist remarks at black students trying to intergrate into white schools. No doubt. "

" I don't know if I'm a right-winger or not, but it's VERY unfair to falsely claim that no right-wingers were complaining about the money being spent in Iraq. And fifty years ago, I was blissfully unaware that some thought I shouldn't have been playing with my black friends in my elementary school.

I've just seen people throw out some labels and over-generalizations in what I think is an attempt to stereotype people as stereotypists. Apparently, it's not OK to stereotype people, but it's OK to stereotype them. "

" I agree with "mominapa" "bdnf" and "toxicavenger", couln't have said it better!
That's napa for you! "

" Strong words toxicavenger! I agree. I'm glad it got posted.
I don't know how this issue equates with the state spending more money. There's going to be an election anyway.

shrapnal: How much money will it cost California?? It's not frivolous if it determines the course of your life.

Besides being part of a stringed instrument, what's a fret?

JR: of course it can go ahead. This is a representative republic where laws are determined by a referendum and a vote. It's not up to you what can go on the ballot. "

" We should not spend more money on a 2010 election.
That is easy for me to say because I live in beautiful community where our two sons are not treated any differently because they happen to have two moms and where both my wife and I can coach little league teams and are valued members of our community. We remain legally married by the state of California.
For those gay Californians who don't have these circumstances, I am sorry that it won't happen tomorrow. In the meantime, take a vacation and get married in Mass in the fall when the leaves are changing. Give them the money for your wedding. California obviously does not need it.
That said, I say wait because we all know it is going to happen. We all know that gay marriage is inevitable. Unfortunately, it just takes time. 2010 is too soon. Keep having conversations with everyone you know. Explain the difference between "civil marriage" and "religious marriage". As you can see on these blogs, people are still very confused that the two are separate and believe silly things such as "churches will have to marry people they don't want to", "Heterosexual marriages will fall apart" etc

Wait for a 2012 election and if you look at the gap between Prop 22 and Prop 8, you will see where we are headed.

I say wait till 2012.

By the way, gay marriage is a bi partisan issue. Please quit accusing supporters of being "left wing liberals". I, for one am not and I know many, many Republicans who voted No on 8 and would do it again because they happen to believe in personal freedoms. "

" To those who think that gay is the new black, you couldn't be more wrong. Biology, and common sense, trumps an anything goes society. "

" Well you soldify my point "Cowboy" not to long ago Biology books had "biological evidence" that black peoples brains were smaller then white peoples brain. These "books" stated that the white race was far superior becuase of this scientific evidence. This sort of commom sense is now outdated and proven wrong as will yours eventually. Giddy up cowboy! "

" toxicavenger wrote: "50 years ago I have no doubt most of you would be first in line to throw stones and scream racist remarks at black students trying to intergrate into white schools."

First of all no one is throwing stones here. The discourse has been fairly civil.
But it's peculiar how the gay rights activists try to cloak themselves in the same mantle as those who fought for racial equality. When was the last time a gay person was made to sit in the back of the bus, or could only attend the inferior schools on the wrong side of the tracks? Let's face it, the gay marriage proponents can't point to real discrimination that affects their real benefits (under California law). "

" There is evidence The Holy Roman Catholic Church and The Church of Latter Day Saints was instrumental in organizing the voter repeal of prop 8: Primarily through the infusion of millions of dollars to influence the election. Sadly California demographics have changed enough that their efforts were successful. There was a time when California was a social leader and I find it ironic that the conservative strongholds of New Hampshire, Vermont, Connecticut, Maine and Iowa of all places, have legislation providing for same sex marriage. We've become infamous for allowing prejudice to interfere with civil and states rights.
In an article today concerning the Episcopal Church: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_rel_episcopalians_gays.
If Ca. couples arrange nuptials in a state condoning such unions returning to California to reside the state will eventually have no choice but to recognize same sex unions. It's matter of instituting a class action. Eventually the state will to have to bow to reason. "

" How about civil rights, John? We needn't be so specific as ethnicity. Violence, and persecution for sexual orientation has been just as heinous and violent as the days of Jim Crow. To fight injustice whether it be racial or sexual orientation is the same principle. "

" The battle will continue until the ideal and American principles of freedom and liberty take precedence over tradition and the process. For a unique perspective and discussion point that Pro8ers have not been able to dispute, follow this link:
http://www.createdequal.us/GenderNeutral.doc "

" No, they haven't been made to sit at the back of the bus, merely denied the rights you enjoy, JR because of fear and ignorance, both clearly demonstrated by many of the posts in this thread., so yes, this is a fight for civil rights on the same level as the fight for equal rights for women, African-Americans, Hispanics, disabled persons...the list goes on.

I love hearing people say we would never discriminate against an African-American but yeah, it is okay to do so against someone who is gay or a lesbian, the disconnect is amazing. "

" Ignorance and intolerance go together. While both can be cured, people must be motivated to overcome them. As some of the posts here demonstrate, homophobia is deeply ingrained in many people, and unfortunately, there is little motivation for straight people to overcome their prejudice against gay people. As demonstrated here, some are more interested in spreading homophobia rather than curing it.

In a country dedicated to the principal that all are created equal, there is no excuse for discrimination. Some day, liberty and justice for all will truly mean all.

Now, back to my fishing vacation, where the fish don't care if the fisherman is gay or straight. "