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MarkMiwords wrote on Jul 15, 2009 12:20 PM:
NVR-Dan Ross wrote on Jul 15, 2009 12:45 PM:
We have a photographer out there right now ... it appears it was one of the trees from that grove, will know more when the photographer checks in. "
PercussionQueen7 wrote on Jul 15, 2009 1:05 PM:
gammachar wrote on Jul 15, 2009 1:06 PM:
reason-ator wrote on Jul 15, 2009 1:10 PM:
steph wrote on Jul 15, 2009 2:10 PM:
Was anyone there to hear/see it fall? If so, what a sight to behold!
If no, maybe it never even made so much as a peep when it fell. "
srsly wrote on Jul 15, 2009 2:29 PM:
Probably because you can't reroute the train but you can reroute the traffic... "
msetty wrote on Jul 15, 2009 2:44 PM:
PercussionQueen7 wrote on Jul 15, 2009 3:25 PM:
Good point, hadn't thought of that. :) "
chchchchia wrote on Jul 15, 2009 4:04 PM:
napablogger wrote on Jul 15, 2009 4:07 PM:
It's funny, last week my wife was commenting that those trees are about to all fall down, based on the above. Prophetic. Hot weather tends to make them do that for some reason.
They are a huge hazard right now. It is lucky no one was under that thing. "
greysack wrote on Jul 15, 2009 5:35 PM:
theangrybear wrote on Jul 15, 2009 8:06 PM:
funnyme wrote on Jul 15, 2009 8:35 PM:
walktothepark wrote on Jul 15, 2009 8:50 PM:
oldtownnapa wrote on Jul 15, 2009 9:11 PM:
random name here wrote on Jul 15, 2009 9:44 PM:
Through the 80's and 90's I lived in a house right next to the highway, just a stone's throw from the Trubody Tree. Early one morning I was awakened by a loud shattering crack followed by a tremendous thud that shook the entire house. The next thing I heard were a couple cars screeching to a halt. The Trubody Tree had shed one of its huge lower branches, blocking the Northbound lanes of 29 and all of Washington Street.
That firewood lasted for years... "
reason-ator wrote on Jul 15, 2009 10:01 PM:
A couple of weeks, I rode through that fire just north of the Carquinez Bridge. There was fire on both sides of the the road, and the road is REALLY WIDE ( it is probably a couple hundred yards wide just north of the toll plaza ) there. Somehow, the fire managed to get across the road, because globs of burning embers were being blown out of the trees down onto the road and across it. Oh, and onto cars on the road, and on to me. Me being highly responsive to danger, eventually realized I should flip my visor down before I got some of those buning globs in my mouth. I was so in awe of how the embers were swirling around, I was open-mouthed in amazement.
I was smelling burning eucalyptus all the way home. I don't think the fire could have crossed the road there if any other trees had been there. "
msetty wrote on Jul 16, 2009 9:24 AM:
It is is amazing what some people want to preserve. To add to what reason-ator and others here have pointed out, these weed tree imports from OZ (Australia) also had a huge role in the Oakland Hills fire that destroyed 3,500 homes. Every time I travel to Oakland and see the hills, I always wonder when the next time the area will go up again. "
grape wrote on Jul 16, 2009 9:27 AM:
kevin wrote on Jul 16, 2009 11:49 AM:
Who knew it was a precurser of larger things to come... "
reality1 wrote on Jul 16, 2009 1:59 PM:
theangrybear wrote on Jul 16, 2009 3:08 PM:
sunny wrote on Jul 16, 2009 6:55 PM:
Is there a disease going around, or maybe a lack of water? Personally I don't like to see this kind of tree near any kind of hwy, or rr track for that matter. "
WineJumper wrote on Jul 16, 2009 7:54 PM:
msetty wrote on Jul 16, 2009 9:52 PM:
I stand by my statements about the weed trees from OZ. I happen to live in an area with lots of large native oak trees, and am quite familar with them as fire and falling hazards. Compared to eucalyptus, they are much less hazardous, partly because they live longer and give signs of trouble long before they fall. Oak leaves on the ground are also much less of a fire hazard compared to oil-impregnated eucalyptus bark and dead leaves that build up below the trees year after year, choking out most other vegetation, native or otherwise.
Many of the "strands of eucalyptus" you think are so "beautiful" happen to be quite old and increasingly a severe falling hazard. There are also many eucalyptus groves and clumbs in parts of the Napa hills that are HUGE fire hazards, such as the area along lower Atlas Peak Road where the highest density of houses are located. You obviously aren't familiar with the fire a few years ago near the waterfall about a mile below the City of Napa's property at Milliken Dam.
This area went up literally in minutes mainly due to the huge amount of eucalyptus materials that had built up on the ground over many years, let alone the very high flammability of the trees themselves. Thankfully they are now cutting down the rest of them, two years later!
Of course I don't want to mow down all the trees. Give me a break! That accusation was just excessive rhetoric. I care as much as anyone about Napa Valley aesthetics, but I will sacrifice a little for a few years (until the native trees can grow) if it greatly improves fire and transportation safety. Those weed trees are no loss at all. "
kevin wrote on Jul 16, 2009 10:27 PM:
The native trees don't get large enough to provide shade for a squirrel... "
pharper wrote on Jul 16, 2009 11:49 PM:
These are enormous trees, and they've been around since long, long before I was born and before my parents owned the property. We've never once had a problem with falling branches or diseased trees. We've had several incidences with a large apple tree that fell into my grandma's house, and two of our enormous pine trees, which died inexplicably, but never with the eucalyptus.
They're beautiful and they smell great! "
theangrybear wrote on Jul 17, 2009 1:43 AM:
And msetty, all I was saying is that according to your logic, all big trees really should go if they are too close to people. I do agree with you in that some of the massive eucalyptus forests do pose a greater risk and should be reduced, and diseased trees of any species usually require removal but that's about it. And I like your putting words in my mouth; "beautiful"... lol.
But c'mon, there is no way you can convince me that a few historic eucalyptus strands such as on stanly lane really pose such terrifying danger. msetty is a prime example of quite a few folks i've heard who get completely hysterical about eucalyptus trees. So what if they aren't native? Neither are you; they've been here a lot longer than you have. The good thing is that most people do appreciate them "
5th generation napan wrote on Jul 21, 2009 7:46 AM:
Did it make any sound when it fell? "