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sprklsunshine wrote on Jul 9, 2009 1:24 PM:
KelzMom wrote on Jul 9, 2009 1:54 PM:
So, on that note, another coffee shop would be great. Another art gallery would be great. Too bad Dekor had to leave. More clothing stores would be nice, another shoe store. A real deli! (smaller version of Genova). "
steph wrote on Jul 9, 2009 3:45 PM:
steph wrote on Jul 9, 2009 3:46 PM:
not a tourist wrote on Jul 9, 2009 3:47 PM:
firststreetmayor wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:01 PM:
JustMyyOpinion wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:07 PM:
I need to think of other specifics, but whatever it is should serve the needs of both tourists and residents alike. "
efinnapa wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:08 PM:
What they need to do is stop being greedy and offer fair rents to local business.
If they want to get the high end business in offer 1 or 2 high end retailers little or no rent for a year plus have they city give them tax breaks.
After a few of the brand name high end retailers are in others will follow and they will pay full rent and get no tax breaks. "
kmulkey wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:08 PM:
My husband would like to see clothing stores and maybe even our own store: Pollin's Interiors and Custom Upholstery. "
rmb wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:12 PM:
4gnapan wrote on Jul 9, 2009 4:42 PM:
a barnes and noble, borders, or somesuch would be great, but again, the rents will prohibit it. "
sickothis wrote on Jul 9, 2009 5:45 PM:
mom2 wrote on Jul 9, 2009 6:30 PM:
krusty wrote on Jul 9, 2009 7:01 PM:
As far as the stores I would like to see, I would love to have a large book store. I would spend a lot of time at a place with a set up similar to what I've seen at a Borders or Barnes and Noble.
An Apple store would probably be a great addition. Those places are always packed.
I would also like to see a Chipotle restaurant. I like some of the mexican restaurants we currently have in downtown but I would still patronize them if a Chipotle moved in to downtown.
And last but not least, a drug store. "
diehard4ever wrote on Jul 9, 2009 7:41 PM:
Dirty Napkin wrote on Jul 10, 2009 7:53 AM:
noblindershere wrote on Jul 10, 2009 8:03 AM:
andy wrote on Jul 10, 2009 8:17 AM:
formerNapakin wrote on Jul 10, 2009 9:08 AM:
My thought is that Napa property owners charge so much for rent, that is nearly impossible for merchants to open and maintain a business with the astronomical rent they must pay for the space. In order to keep their doors open, merchants must inflate the price of their products in hopes that they are able to pay their rent...which then turns off locals from shopping/buying from them.
It's a vicious cycle that needs to be broken..or soon there will be NO downtown napa...in my opinion. "
napan007 wrote on Jul 10, 2009 9:10 AM:
Does this mean the end of mom & pop stores? Not if they strategize. I would never try to run a mom & pop clothing store against a Macys, for example. But I remember a few years ago my family went to downtown Mountain View for dinner. We also walked around a lot, purchasing some books at Borders and some coffee at a local shop. We ate dinner, and were walking around again when we came across a fish store. Yep, a fish store. And I tell you what, this fish store was freaking PACKED. They had such beautiful aquariums and a wide selection of fish that seemingly everyone on the street was drawn in to take a look. And the store staff were all on hand to answer questions and chat with everyone who wandered in. Now we admittedly didn't walk out with a fish that night but that place really stuck in my mind as the store I would want to go to if/when I do get a fish. I bet their business is doing great. There was a line at the register when we left. "
rickw wrote on Jul 10, 2009 9:23 AM:
fnjw wrote on Jul 10, 2009 9:47 AM:
wipemedown wrote on Jul 10, 2009 9:50 AM:
newnapa14 wrote on Jul 10, 2009 10:03 AM:
Downtown locations should be a mix of national and local retail shops - many good suggestions listed here.
I think perhaps the biggest problem is thinking too low end or small! "
freeport56 wrote on Jul 10, 2009 10:14 AM:
REI, Barnes and Noble, Gourment Cooking shop, Footlocker...and some high end shops Gucci...etc. "
msdemo wrote on Jul 10, 2009 10:17 AM:
NVR-Dan Ross wrote on Jul 10, 2009 10:22 AM:
See the Register article here.
http://www.napavalleyregister.com/articles/2009/02/12/news/local/doc4994f0e4b610f788877328.txt "
rico wrote on Jul 10, 2009 11:15 AM:
dmom wrote on Jul 10, 2009 11:18 AM:
A small tea room with loose and sachet teas, cafe-style seating, pastries, and tea-related products, capable of hosting private parties would be a strong possibility and also attract parents with young children as these are typically designed to accomodate birthday parties. Sit-down businesses tend to keep people in the area longer.
The bigger book chains do the same thing, drawing traffic and offering a place to linger but I would rather see a family-owned, smaller chain back in downtown. Books are a tough way to make a living unless combined with many other impulse products, which can be done if you think out of the box. Take a look at Book Passage in Corte Madera and SF or Books, Inc. in SF, Palo Alto, and Berkeley, for model examples.
City planners need to get serious about building facades, working with landowners for flow and setting standards that stick; signage for example.
Not since the Ben Franklin store has there been an artist supply/crafts store in downtown and I think it would surprise many how a well-planned, fully-stocked store would be utilized by locals.
One thing the CA Dept. Of Commerce Mainstreet Program always did was search for balance in retail and insist on standards.
I'm available for consultation for much less than $100,000. lol "
NapaFurriesMom wrote on Jul 10, 2009 11:36 AM:
post-it wrote on Jul 10, 2009 1:05 PM:
I would hate to see downtown full of souvenir shops like pier 39.
Downtown is the best location for an entertainment district. I would like to see more places for music and dancing. What are the locals to do at night and what are the tourists supposed to do after tasting wine and eating? "
magnum wrote on Jul 10, 2009 1:31 PM:
scully wrote on Jul 10, 2009 2:34 PM:
I'd like to see unique stores and privately owned businesses (vs. large scale chain stores). On one hand, I see Napa businesses/landlords trying too hard to be 'upscale', and that seems to be something Napa is not and can not support. On the other hand, quite a few residents seem to want major chain stores, which will lead to a generic mall, which to me is not the type of mall you want downtown.
I miss the bookstores, Beaded Nomad, the antique store, and many of the other retailers that have disappeared in the 26 years I've lived here. We still have some interesting and worthwhile shops here which I try to patronize.
Check out Economic Development Systems for yourself: http://www.econdevsys.com/
Their 'sister company': http://www.hurstharrigan.com/ Note the page: clients>view tenant relationships for a preview of what might come to Napa. "
rred12 wrote on Jul 10, 2009 2:55 PM:
valleylocal wrote on Jul 10, 2009 3:23 PM:
Seriously - why aren't Napans allowed to dance? What are they afraid of?
The Hatt Building has done great. Ask Harry Price or other successful businesses like Azzurro Pizzera & Enoteca. Always packed with locals.
And guess what city planners, locals bring their friends and make recommendations. Hmmm, cater to locals and the tourists will follow. There's a thought.
P.S. Oh and why is there only one shoe store in this town? "
napanatheart wrote on Jul 10, 2009 3:47 PM:
valleylocal wrote on Jul 10, 2009 4:23 PM:
1. Go to a decent movie theater.
2. Have a variety of reasonably priced shops.
3. Be in a park like setting where you can sit and relax but still have retail and restaurant activity.
4. Dance
5. Ride on a smooth bike path
Obviously Napa does not have the population to sustain many specialty chains but there is no reason we can't have a fun, thoughtful approach to bringing what locals want to downtown. "
funnyme wrote on Jul 10, 2009 5:05 PM:
- Shoe stores galore...love shoes (name a girl who doesn't)
- Sidewalk cafes with some fun live music during the day. Bring the 'old world' in here!
- Beg Thomas Keller to do something! (everything he touches turns into gold, and the man is a, well, a good man)
- A pet store with 'live puppies' (consignment). Do you know how many Americans own pets?...or want one?
- MUSIC!!! (live or not)...good ol dancing can bring a smile to just about anyone...you got it valleylocal!
Now, there! "
steph wrote on Jul 10, 2009 6:29 PM:
Praetorian wrote on Jul 10, 2009 6:54 PM:
Vintage wrote on Jul 10, 2009 7:50 PM:
Restoration Hardware, Foot Candy, Apple, Upscale furniture stores, California Pizza Kitchen, Boudin, Lulu Lemon...... "
kevin wrote on Jul 10, 2009 8:55 PM:
Ureluis wrote on Jul 10, 2009 9:36 PM:
KelzMom wrote on Jul 10, 2009 9:41 PM:
krusty wrote on Jul 11, 2009 12:52 AM:
Seriously, I think everyone can agree that an Apple store would be a big draw. I believe the closest Apple store to us is in Walnut Creek. One in Napa could draw people from Fairfield and Vallejo. "
Hear Ye wrote on Jul 11, 2009 1:27 AM:
Bauhausfan wrote on Jul 11, 2009 7:43 AM:
I am curious - what is the average amount per square foot they charge for retail space downtown? "
mykdgirl54 wrote on Jul 11, 2009 10:03 AM:
mktmkr wrote on Jul 11, 2009 10:14 AM:
http://www.pastaq.com/
http://www.berkeleybowl.com/ "
sweetgrape14 wrote on Jul 11, 2009 4:00 PM:
They are a Southern California restaurant business and they are AMAZING!!!!! They NEED to open a location in Napa! It would be a huge hit!! Their food is all natural and delicious and very reasonably priced!!!!
Please Please Please look into it!!!! "
pharper wrote on Jul 11, 2009 5:12 PM:
I'd love to see a Forever 21 or an H&M, because they're reasonably priced with a lot of clothes that a lot of teenagers like. I'm a big fan of Old Navy as well, for the same reason.
Fresh Choice would be great too! "
wanderingmoon wrote on Jul 12, 2009 7:16 AM:
I'd really hate to see Borders come to town when Napa already has good independent bookstores, but I'd like to see a good independent music store like Rasputin Music or Amoeba open up downtown. I'm sure it would be enjoyed by teens as well as adults and tourists.
More locally run boutiques and affordable cafes or deli's would be welcome, but please don't turn Napa turn a strip mall. The last thing downtown needs is chain restaurants like Chili's and Fresh Choice. "
rpcv wrote on Jul 12, 2009 7:30 AM:
GerryKP wrote on Jul 12, 2009 8:05 AM:
2. Trader Joes in the old Merrills building would be great. Great for downtown residents to walk to and shop, easing some traffic woes for Bel Aire Plaza
3. Peet's Coffee (wasn't this talked about?)
4. I agree with others, Amoeba records or "Hear Music" (have you been to the one in Berkeley on 4th Street?) "
bhenery wrote on Jul 12, 2009 8:42 AM:
What do we need all this shlock, canned, sameness for?
Walnut Creek here we come.....how sad......how stupid my neighbors. "
scooby wrote on Jul 12, 2009 10:58 AM:
WorksInNapa wrote on Jul 12, 2009 4:44 PM:
diehard4ever wrote on Jul 12, 2009 7:12 PM:
I would've done it for a 20 and a free coffee.. decaf, of course... unless you want to see a hyperactive 13 year old running around in small circles until the caffeine wears off... could be funny...
Maybe not BestBuy... though I do love BestBuy... it's a little too big. Best Buy rocks! We've gotten a laptop and a TV there for between $100 and $500 less than other stores that sell the same thing. GeekSquad is a coll feature too. "
John Richards wrote on Jul 12, 2009 7:45 PM:
My4cents wrote on Jul 12, 2009 8:13 PM:
teacherjane wrote on Jul 13, 2009 12:48 AM:
1. Kohl's
2. A teacher's store that would compete with The Learning Fair's prices and selection
3. Best Buy
4. Old Navy
5. Medicinal marijuana dispensary
6. An arcade, like Santa Cruz has, so that teens have something to do
7. Chipotle
8. Chevy's
9. Olive Garden
10. Hula's or Mongolian BBQ
11. Fresh Choice
12. Barnes and Noble
13. Pita Pit "
rico wrote on Jul 13, 2009 8:10 AM:
sprklsunshine wrote on Jul 13, 2009 8:58 AM:
LocalNapa wrote on Jul 13, 2009 9:21 AM:
Pottery Barn
Pottery Barn Kids
Crate and Barrel
William Sonoma
PF Changs
Borders
Janie and Jack
Apple Store
Pasta Pomodoro
Sur la Table
Restoration Hardware "
diehard4ever wrote on Jul 13, 2009 9:29 AM:
Arcades won't keep us entertained. THe machines cost too much money. And most of us would rather buy clothes than spend a few t-shirts worth on games to get a small rubber lizard. "
DSP wrote on Jul 13, 2009 11:38 AM:
Apple Store
Rasputin's or Amoeba Music
Good cheap pasta place. One restaurant I miss from Santa Barbara is Presto Pasta. Great pasta cheap. Check it out http://www.prestopasta.com/
Also I agree with whoever said Natural Cafe. Another great place from my Santa Barbara days. http://www.thenaturalcafe.com/index.php "
clonapa wrote on Jul 13, 2009 11:52 AM:
1. Dave & Busters or any type of family fun zone-ESPN, Scandia type
2. Macys
3. Old Navy
4. Vans store
5. Childrens Place
6. Borders
7. Chipotle
8. Melting Pot
9. Create and Barrel
10. Best Buy
11. Nice movie theater (whats the status with Cinadome?)
12. Build a new skate/BMX park out at Kennedy
13. Water slides ?
Ill keep my fingers crossed...till then I go to Concord/Fairfield/Vacaville on the weekends to do most activites and shop. Id rather be spending my money and time in the beautiful city I grew up and raise my family in. "
pharper wrote on Jul 13, 2009 1:13 PM:
I've never been to a Dave and Buster's, but my understanding is that they're a lot of fun. I'd love to see one of those here. Scandia's not a bad one either, but I don't think there's any room downtown for one.
Idk about that, Angelina. When my friends are looking for something to do, shopping's pretty low on the list. We'd rather do an activity than look for clothes (and we don't go shopping in co-ed groups, usually. I hate shopping with guys!). An arcade might be kind of fun, because we could choose how much money we want to spend. We could have DDR competitions and maybe a kind of lounge inside with food and music. Maybe weekly or monthly performances by local teen bands and sponsored contests of some sort? "
5th generation napan wrote on Jul 13, 2009 1:18 PM:
Bookends book store
Beaded Nomand
Redwood Art Supply
Shalow's shoes
Silverado Pizza
Alfredos Pizza
Napa Toy store
Eucaliptus Records
Comedy club
Dance / Nite club
J. C. Penney's
the five antique stores
Chicks Burgers
Merryles drug/grocery store
Roller skate rink
Ben Franklin's Art Supply
Oh yah, they were here until the landlord raised their rents to a ridiculous price and drove them out.
But Added to that how about also;
A decent affordable clothing store
Mens suit's store
An ampahterater
a young adult exploratorium
An army/navy surplus store
A camp / backpacking shop
(a real sporting goods shop, not big 5)
A rainforest cafe
Boarders Books
A leather supply shop
Restoration Hardware
A downtown specific realator and a tax (retroactive) on all spaces left vacant after 3 months.
Its not the fact these stores were not supported, but that they were just making it in these economic times and their throats were cut by landlords pricing them out of business.
In the old days most of these people would have owned their own places and could weather out rough economic times. But now if with a landlord that only wants high level rents and will not work with them if he doesn't like them shop owners have no chance of survival. "
outsidelookingin wrote on Jul 13, 2009 2:29 PM:
diehard4ever wrote on Jul 13, 2009 3:53 PM:
If it's like what you described, then YES!!! I've lived half an hour away from Santa Cruz and the arcade there is basically a collection of overpriced games that are impossible to win and half are usually out of order. The food is overpriced and no better than the stuff at elementary school cafeteria food. :P
And I do agree... shopping with guys stinks. A nicer skate park would be cool. We might use our skateboards for something other than sitting on them and rolling down the super steep driveway we had in Santa Cruz (And nearly hitting the neighbor's car in the process).
Scandias awesome. I love the Go-Karts... Maybe a Go-Kart track sponsored by one of the vineyards in "rural" Napa? I'm trying to think of a place where... "
John Richards wrote on Jul 13, 2009 10:10 PM:
The exception that proves the rule.
Let's face it, Macy's will never come to Napa. "
reneefannin wrote on Jul 13, 2009 10:39 PM:
Children's Place
Sports Authority or Di**'s Sporting Goods ( I got censored on that one)
An Independent Bookstore
Restoration HArdware
PF Changs
Chik Fil A
Body Shop
Educational Toy Store
or even better-equivalent stores to those above that are locally owned and operated "
krusty wrote on Jul 14, 2009 12:26 PM:
Two more exceptions to your rule. "
jersey guy wrote on Jul 14, 2009 1:26 PM:
Beebop wrote on Jul 14, 2009 1:29 PM:
mcrauntie wrote on Jul 15, 2009 1:30 AM:
JustMyyOpinion wrote on Jul 15, 2009 7:16 AM:
It'd be wonderful to have a Macy's here, but I won't hold my breath. And not that we don't have enough drugstores already, but a Walgreens that has better prices than Longs/CVS would be a plus! A store like Michael's would be nice for decorating and holiday supplies. "
Sly wrote on Jul 15, 2009 8:03 AM:
Secondly, I'd like to see the town come alive with music, dancing, family events, and lots of activity.
Thirdly, as many have mentioned, I'd love to have larger chain stores such as Barnes & Noble, but they should be added to existing shopping areas.
Downtown should be kept unique and fun so as to make it an interesting place for both tourists and locals. "
Shrapnal wrote on Jul 15, 2009 8:31 AM:
book store
toy store
large clothier (jc pennys, khols, etc)
small drugstore
Color-Me-Mine (franchise that provides pottery for people to come in and paint great for kids)
healthy "fast-food" priced restaurant "
toxicavenger wrote on Jul 15, 2009 9:18 AM:
vinovalleygirl wrote on Jul 15, 2009 12:22 PM:
jeeper16 wrote on Jul 15, 2009 10:14 PM:
pharper wrote on Jul 16, 2009 10:50 AM:
I did not like the set-up. The seemed healthy enough, but they were in glass cages where they couldn't hear any people. They were taken out, passed around among people, then put back in. They weren't allowed to play with people or sit and be held.
I don't remember who it was, but someone else also mentioned puppy mills and the thousands of dogs and kittens waiting to be adopted from We Care and the Humane Society.
I've changed my mind, and whoever said it was right. We don't need a pet store like that in Napa. I love my hand-me-down dogs, and I don't need to pay $900 (nine hundred!!!!) for a Pomeranian in a pet store when I could get a mixed breed that's just as cute for about a hundred from the shelter.
Perhaps a better alternative would be a shelter for animals where kids could work and learn about pet care. The Humane Society doesn’t even allow people back to look at the dogs if they’re under eighteen and unaccompanied by an adult (but interestingly, you can walk dogs if you’re over 16). As a kid who spent most of her life wanting to be a veterinarian, I would have been first in line at that shelter. We could still have “doggies in the window” at an animal shelter! "
robustdan wrote on Jul 17, 2009 7:01 AM:
Bauhausfan wrote on Jul 17, 2009 12:43 PM:
ao1982 wrote on Jul 17, 2009 2:34 PM:
otto wrote on Jul 18, 2009 10:38 AM:
manxkat wrote on Jul 19, 2009 10:34 AM:
But, since you're asking, there are a few businesses I would like to have in downtown. First of all lets have a whorehouse! And, I'd like to have a real Las Vegas casino. To top it off I think an upscale gun and knife store would be great too. Oh, and we're missing a grocery store and a gas station too. "
reason-ator wrote on Jul 19, 2009 1:01 PM:
rjandrews wrote on Jul 19, 2009 1:05 PM:
blundc wrote on Jul 22, 2009 3:33 PM:
alixzander wrote on Jul 23, 2009 9:50 AM:
For real though, I’d like to see more collectives. Oh ya, and lets bring back the smoking cat café/café revolution. "
diehard4ever wrote on Jul 23, 2009 1:42 PM:
sandia wrote on Jul 23, 2009 6:34 PM:
Missy56 wrote on Aug 9, 2009 12:45 AM:
Wine nurse wrote on Aug 18, 2009 9:49 AM: