War of words
November 15th, 2009
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Bill Kisliuk
On its best days, the letters section is my favorite part of the Register.
The letters page hit a high point a few weeks ago, as the crush of correspondence on the Lake Luciana golf resort proposal pushed everything else off the page in the days before the Napa County Board of Supervisors took up the project. The board voted 3-2 to block the Pope Valley proposal.
Longtime residents of Pope Valley wrote persuasive letters pleading for the project to be approved. Other longtime residents of Pope Valley wrote persuasive letters asking that it be rejected.
Knowledgeable viticulturists wrote to say the Lake Luciana site is unsuitable for grapes and therefore an acceptable one for putting greens. Other grapegrowers wrote to say the area is suitable for vineyards.
The political class weighed in, enumerating the broader arguments of land protection and the primacy of agriculture versus economic viability and the primacy of property rights.
It was a roaring, intelligent and engaging debate.
It is worth noting that we received far more letters about Lake Luciana than we did regarding the May 19 special election on the state’s precarious finances.
Before some elections, we have to publish notes warning readers to get their letters in by a predetermined deadline or risk seeing their missives left on the cutting room floor. This time, we didn’t bother.
The election stirred little passion. Recently, Napa County Registrar of Voters John Tuteur announced that Napa County had the third-highest voter turnout in the state for a county our size. It was an anemic 41 percent, but still much higher than the 25 percent turnout statewide.
One recent political letter prompted a phone call from the office of an elected official. On June 10 we published a letter slamming state Sen. Pat Wiggins, D-Santa Rosa, who has introduced legislation to stop those who hunt for minerals from using a technique called motorized suction dredging — essentially sucking up the sediment in river bottoms and then churning it back out, looking for gold and other precious metals.
Wiggins argues the practice is too destructive to the salmon habitat and riparian ecosystems. The letter writer disagreed, noted that several Native American tribes and groups are among the advocates of Wiggins’ legislation and then took a wild swing: “I assume all of these organizations must contribute to her political campaign as well as the rest of the state Senate.”
In fact, public records do not bear out the letter writer’s assumption. If we had it to do all over again, we’d ask the writer to support the assertion before we ran the letter.
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Ruff Limblog wrote on Jun 14, 2009 6:53 AM:
The blog and comments portion of the NVR is filled with unbacked assertions - most of them false.
Most recently a familiar name posted that President Obama had ordered our troops in the field to read the enemy Miranda warnings in combat.
No backup. No references cited. No links and totally false.
Miranda warnings were being read to prisoners in Bagram prison in Afghanistan, but those people are PRISONERS, no in combat.
I'd be proud of the NVR if such assertions were required to have some kind of sourcing made plain.
As it is, I (and other readers) are left with the duty of trying to call bullcorn on these folks.
~Ruff "
kevin wrote on Jun 14, 2009 9:03 AM:
clear2me wrote on Jun 14, 2009 8:37 PM:
clear2me wrote on Jun 14, 2009 8:46 PM:
Raven wrote on Jun 15, 2009 8:54 AM:
When someone posts a 'factual' tidbit without attribution, there are plenty of blogger who have done that fact checking and can challenge the assertion.
Beside the give and take on the 'facts' can lead us to some lively discussions and isn't that what these blogs are about (btw kevin, your data that electric are neither safe, practical and cost effective is?...and clear2me, you say central banks are at the root of our problems? Which ones and exactly how have the central done the deeds you accuse them of?) "
napablogger wrote on Jun 16, 2009 8:32 AM:
naysayer wrote on Jun 16, 2009 9:07 AM:
Ruff Limblog wrote on Jun 16, 2009 11:42 AM:
The NVR could comment, asking the poster for a source, or reject outrageous claims made without a source.
The NVR does keep some posts from seeing the light of day, often without telling the poster why, sometimes, even if they meet the requirements of the FAQ.
I'm inclined to say that things posted in the Rants area should receive more slack than other places. But, when you come here and the same old lie is being repeated for the tenth time, it gets old.
Especially if you have de-bunked the lie a half dozen times before.
For example, think about all the lies we've been told for years by Republicans about Bush and Cheney's torture program.
Every single thing has turned out to be lies... from 'We Don't Torture' to 'OK, We Tortured a Few, but We got Real Intelligence From Them' -- ALL LIES.
We tortured people and we got bupkis for it, except for a big black eye.
~Ruff "