Napa Pipe presentation stirs debate
By JILLIAN JONES
Register Staff Writer
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Developers’ vision for Napa Pipe is coming into focus, and they want Napa County residents to envision it, too.
Where the dry dock stands along the Napa River on the south county site, developers beckon to you to imagine a lively outdoor theater. Where cranes bow down to an industrial skyline, they ask you to picture 2,580 homes and an array of parks, restaurants and stores.
Even the skeptical at Wednesday’s Napa County Planning Commission meeting, where architects for Napa Pipe described their would-be creations, acknowledged the images were enticing. But for all the pictures that flashed across the screen, opponents battled back with one pointed word: “city.”
The purpose of Wednesday’s hearing was to give commissioners and the public an understanding of how the Napa Pipe proposal came to be. But when one architect slipped up and referred to the carefully proclaimed “neighborhood” as a “town,” he mistakenly touched upon one of the most highly charged debates surrounding the development proposed for the 152-acre site in south Napa County. Just what is Napa Pipe? Is it a neighborhood? A town? A city outside of a city?
Bill Rawn, the Boston-based architect who is part of the Napa Pipe design team, expressed architects’ desire to “ensure there is a sense of neighborhood” at Napa Pipe.
He showed images of the “shopping and recreation that serve the population of the Napa Pipe neighborhood,” which would include a restaurant, outdoor theater and hotel. He also noted the employment opportunities at Napa Pipe, which would feature light industrial and office space, as well as a senior housing facility.
“It’s a mixture of uses; that is very important,” Rawn said.
Rawn said the nearly 3,000 homes would include “a series of different housing units,” from modest houses to medium-sized townhouses to apartments, thereby creating “a truly mixed community” with residents from a variety of income levels.
“It is all about letting the street life of the community being part of the neighborhood,” Rawn said, adding, “All this leads to a compact building design … (with a) sufficient population to support these goals.”
Napa Pipe architects are doing their best to ensure an environmentally friendly community, he said, with an emphasis on walking, biking and possibly traveling by train and water taxi to one of the 7,000 jobs located within three miles of the site.
Architect Doug Johnston, also of William Rawn Associates, told of the active river uses proposed at Napa Pipe, and his vision for gatherings at the waterfront, of boating and dining and entertainment.
Buildings, he said, would be designed in such a way as to “enliven the street with balconies, stoops overhangs.”
“Housing is the basic element of any great neighborhood,” he said.
Philadelphia landscape architect Dennis McGlade described plans for a variety of parks at Napa Pipe, including a park along the railroad, one along the waterfront and “more rugged and wild open space” throughout the site.
“An open space structure for Napa Pipe is very, very important,” he said.
But when McGlade accidentally referred to his vision for the “town of Napa Pipe,” murmurs erupted through the audience. McGlade quickly corrected himself, clarifying that the Napa Pipe development would be a “community.”
Not all members of the public were convinced.
Francie Winnen of Napa asked the developer to clarify “what the definition of a town is.”
Harold Kelly, a slow-growth advocate from Napa, took the criticism one step further, calling Napa Pipe “a city outside the city” of Napa.
“I think to build a city next to the city is the wrong approach,” he said.
Napa County Farm Bureau Executive Director Sandy Elles complimented the developers’ “all-star team” and “fascinating presentation,” but said that her concern is “not the design of the project but the scale of the project.”
Developer Keith Rogal attempted to allay concerns about the size of Napa Pipe. “This is a neighborhood,” he said, suggesting Napa Pipe would be a neighborhood in much the same way Browns Valley in Napa is a neighborhood.
“The retail is quite a small amount … (only) that which meets the daily needs” of Napa Pipe residents, he said. “It is not by any stretch the kind of center that becomes a city, a town. It is a neighborhood.”
Bob Fiddaman, chairman of the planning commission, responded to additional environmental concerns raised Wednesday, assuring the public, “This is just the beginning of a very length process.”
Now that the public comment period for the environmental impact review has come to an end, consultants and county officials are busy in the hopes of producing a draft EIR by summer, Napa County Planning Director Hillary Gitelman said.
The county plans to schedule a series of evening public workshops on Napa Pipe, about six in total, she said. Each workshop will focus on a new issue related to Napa Pipe, such as water and traffic.
The first meeting will be scheduled for some time in mid-March, Gitelman said, and will focus on smart growth and other design issues related to Napa Pipe.
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noblindershere wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:08 AM:
kbf wrote on Feb 24, 2009 7:25 AM:
localmama wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:01 AM:
kkjp wrote on Feb 24, 2009 9:13 AM:
5th generation napan wrote on Feb 24, 2009 10:03 AM:
napagirl76 wrote on Feb 24, 2009 11:02 AM:
Cadence wrote on Feb 24, 2009 11:03 AM:
Funny how easy it is to change zoning, change signals, change school attendance zones, change an entire city and county, change any and everything - but NO WAY can the mere thought of changing ABAG's voracious regulations even be whispered.
Too much money to be made. "
proudusamom wrote on Feb 24, 2009 11:05 AM:
109823 wrote on Feb 24, 2009 11:16 AM:
reason-ator wrote on Feb 24, 2009 11:41 AM:
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. He'll be gone when the money's been collected.
If I only had a brain......I'd fall for a media presentation. Good thing I couldn't go, because I'm pretty gullible.
People, the tactics are so heavy-handed and deceptive, it's obvious this is going to be a nightmare, and they're trying to disguise it as a wet river dream. I'll bet the water was even crystal clear....... "
noblindershere wrote on Feb 24, 2009 12:40 PM:
napat wrote on Feb 24, 2009 12:54 PM:
turkeyvulture wrote on Feb 24, 2009 1:34 PM:
amazed wrote on Feb 24, 2009 1:37 PM:
gizzi143 wrote on Feb 24, 2009 2:59 PM:
Keith Rogal has said numerous times that he will take input from the community and the county to build what is right for Napa. If the county wants him to build a school, he will. My understanding about the thought for this community, however, was to serve the population of Napans that does not require the typical single family dettached house. There are so many people who work in Napa, single people, seniors, etc. that can't afford and don't need a typical 3 bedroom 2 bath on a large lot with a picket fence. Therefore, from what I know, this community would be housing to serve those people and there would be less "families with children" living in this neighborhood. But I am sure that if the county deems a school necessary they will build it.
We need to think outside the box and build for our future and that is exactly what the proposal does. I urge anyone who is unsure to actually go to one of the meetings at Napa Pipe, have a walk around, you will learn how wonderful of a neighborhood this will be. "
gizzi143 wrote on Feb 24, 2009 3:06 PM:
I have a very hard time reading these blogs because so many people give completely wrong information. In my opinion those bloggers are confusing the people who just really want answers. Don't answer questions unless you know the answer. So my suggestion to those who have questions or are unsure - you need to go to one of the community meetings where you actually go to the site and Keith walks you around, shares the demographics and why this type of housing and neighborhood is so needed in our valley. The census figures don't lie - we need a better way of planning for our future. And Napa Pipe will be one of those smart growth communities that is sustainable for our future. "
napakid80 wrote on Feb 24, 2009 4:39 PM:
napakid80 wrote on Feb 24, 2009 4:41 PM:
LHnapalover wrote on Feb 24, 2009 4:44 PM:
jasonjac wrote on Feb 24, 2009 4:52 PM:
ProAngwinConTriad wrote on Feb 24, 2009 5:26 PM:
cpslowine wrote on Feb 24, 2009 6:48 PM:
Mr. Feasor wrote on Feb 24, 2009 8:34 PM:
see, e.g:
http://www.co.napa.ca.us/GOV/Departments/29000/Forms/Napa_Pipe_NOP-IS-FINAL.pdf
(at p. 20, first paragraph (subdivision d.))
But if the developers have the money and are still pushing for it - and the land is just there - why not?
I'm just curious about where those elusive "7,000" jobs are within the three-mile site...I thought we were in a recession? "
LMW wrote on Feb 24, 2009 11:50 PM:
We will count on County for EIR, but the folks that weigh in against the project, lets not assume they represent the voice of the people, because Napa County has a diversity of folks and its noticeable, their not at these meetings.
Commentors are so blessed to come from Napa's finer communities, shouldn't we allow that opportunity for others? "
reason-ator wrote on Feb 25, 2009 1:44 PM:
NVR-Dan Ross wrote on Feb 25, 2009 1:58 PM:
The only comment received from you today for this article is the one questioning a deletion. Please resubmit your original comment.
--Dan "
reason-ator wrote on Feb 25, 2009 2:28 PM:
Maybe it was yesterday. I made a comment referring to how, all of a sudden, a flood of comments suddenly appeared in favor of more traffic and crowding from Napa Pipe. It was as if the inter-office e-mails and memos took longer to be distributed amongst some of the developers employees.
I was surprized it took so long. "
rogers wrote on Feb 25, 2009 2:55 PM:
This is simply too many homes for too many people in too limited a space. Napa County wants ABAG off their backs and are willing to cut any deal. IMO this is not a good deal for Napa and the county/city should be looking for better ideas for the use of this property.
It's sad, really, that county planners are so willing to take the first proposal that comes along.
And perhaps I'm missing something, but where does one find published information on these meetings where the public can come in and comment? "
manxkat wrote on Feb 25, 2009 7:07 PM: