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City, public debate rages over Napa Pipe
Officials say planned housing creates too much traffic; residents cite housing as bonus
Friday, December 12, 2008
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Developers of a proposed mixed-use development at Napa Pipe have portrayed their project as a shining example of “smart growth” that would preserve Napa County agriculture by diverting future county housing to an old industrial site.

That’s not how the Napa City Council sees it. City officials cast the proposed 3,200-home project as a planning blunder of major proportions, jeopardizing city residents’ quality of life.
Generating 26,000 or more vehicle trips a day, most of them funneled onto Highway 221, Napa Pipe would worsen traffic between American Canyon and downtown Napa, consultant Harry Burrowes of dk Consulting said Thursday night.

City Public Works Director Jacques LaRochelle said Highway 29 in American Canyon, Highway 221 in front of Napa Valley Corporate Park as well as Soscol Avenue and Silverado Trail leading to downtown would have to be widened to six lanes to handle the added crush of vehicles.
All told, Napa Pipe would be expected to pay $60 million as its share of area street and highway improvements, with no guarantee that public matching money to actually build new road capacity would be forthcoming, Burrowes said.

Napa Pipe developers tout planned environmental features, yet “the development is very car-centered. It requires residents to drive everywhere,” Assistant City Manager Dana Smith said.
Napa Redevelopment Partners’ plan for Napa Pipe would be “unprecedented in its density and scale in the North Bay region,” Burrowes said. The project would create burdens on public services and Napa infrastructure that have not been fully measured, he said.

About 100 people turned out for the City Council’s special meeting on Napa Pipe. The council called the session earlier this week after negotiations with Napa County to bring Napa Pipe into the city collapsed.

As the city sees it, the 152-acre former industrial site should be planned to meet public needs. This might mean shifting some light industrial and corporation yard functions from the central city to Napa Pipe, freeing up sites for new housing close to schools, shopping and transit.

Napa County wants to use Napa Pipe to meet its mandated share of the Bay Area’s housing needs unless a long-term deal can be struck with Napa to absorb most of this housing.

City-county talks over bringing Napa Pipe into the city stumbled over the city’s inability to guarantee that it could meet 70 percent or more of the county’s housing share for the next 21 years.

The city could easily take 456 county housing units over the next seven years without hurting existing Napa neighborhoods, Jean Hasser, a city planner said.

Since a housing deal with the city is impossible in the short term, the county is planning to launch an environmental impact study for the Napa Pipe proposal. This study could take a year.

Burrowes said there is a good possibility that the planned project will be found “economically infeasible.” The promised lower-priced condos intended for so-called workforce housing may end up costing much more, he said.

During public comment, consultants to Napa Pipe said city figures for the project’s traffic and economic impacts were inflated. Because Napa Pipe would be a high-density, mixed-use development located near south county jobs, projected traffic counts could be 30 percent to 40 percent too high.

Napa Pipe would be willing to build its own sewage treatment plant, if necessary, consultants said. The impact on the city’s water system would be minimal if the project is allowed to tap a giant aquifer under the property, the council was told.

The council received a flurry of e-mails in support of Napa Pipe, with people saying they liked proposed artist studios and the project’s cultural amenities. Several others voiced concerns over traffic and water.

Judy du Monde, a Napa Pipe supporter, urged the council not to get locked into old ways of thinking. “It is past time to be bold,” she said. The smaller housing units proposed for Napa Pipe are exactly what the public needs, she said.

The city has reserved the right to sue Napa County if the outcome of Napa Pipe planning presents unacceptable burdens to the city. Until now, the council has been discussing the project in closed session as a topic of “anticipated litigation.”
23 comment(s)

abouttime wrote on Dec 12, 2008 7:37 AM:

" What else could we expect from a city with no vision, a Mayor who would rather have meetings and engage in process rathan an accomplish anything. We have a lightweight council lacking in imagination. They are small town people and will never see the potential of a project this grand. Parness leads them around by the nose and his interest is his own little fiefdom. It's really sad. Better elected officials will get us a better community. We have a chance in tow year to change things. "

napagirl76 wrote on Dec 12, 2008 7:41 AM:

" Why would you move the City Corp yard down to Napa pipe? Its in the perfect location now, in the city. It's in the middle of town which is the right place for it for several reasons- less travel time between the yard and job sites which means less gas being used. During the winter when people need sand bags its right there they dont have to travel down the highways which may be closed due to flooding! (they no longer are using the stadium parking lot because of work on the stadium) The city needs to think all things through a little bit better to avoid US the tax payers paying for any mistakes THEY make. "

kkjp wrote on Dec 12, 2008 8:21 AM:

" THANK YOU Napa City Council members for refusing to enter into an agreement with the county whereby the City would GUARANTEE that it will take 70% of the county's required housing for the next 21 years. 21 YEARS?! What an outrageous, unreasonable demand by the county, and a ridiculous trade-off for the City being "allowed" to bring the Napa Pipe boondoggle project into the City. "

bornin74 wrote on Dec 12, 2008 8:32 AM:

" again, no talk of Rogalville Elementary I & II, or Redevelopment Partners Middle School or Napa Pipe High School.

Where are the kids going to go to school???

I would put in a caveat that states "the development cannot even START without ALL of the flyovers, road widening and ALL traffic mitigation measures are IN PLACE!.

Then build the needed police substation and fire department, then the schools, THEN bring the people!.
ALL on Rogals' dime!

Good thing this will take 20 years, because in 20 years my kids will be grown and I will be out of this place my family has called home for over 60 years.

I don't mind change.... but this is not change..... this is ridiculous....

Are we going to build sports fields for all of the youth league expansions that will take place? from dance to little league, to gymnastics, to football etc. etc......

The "low-income" houses won't be affordable to a winery room tasting manager.....or a hotel bellman.... don't believe that carp for a minute... these are vacation condos for the rich plain and simple....

Build the infrastructure FIRST with no out of pocket expenses by ANYONE except the developer and then I will listen "

manxkat wrote on Dec 12, 2008 9:27 AM:

" Where are are school officials in this discussion?

Our school district will be impacted by over 3,200 new families with children moving into these homes. But nothing is being said about provision of adequate schools. Why? Both Barbara Nemko and John Glaser were in office during the debacle of American Canyon's overwhelming growth. What about the school board members. What are they doing about this potential disaster?

Are we to expect their absence and lack of interest will continue? Are we to expect that the citizens of Napa will have to pay for new schools with school bonds because our school administrators and elected officials are silent?

It is time for a cleaning of the house in the schools administration - we need people who will actually get involved for the benefit of the community, not just the teacher union. "

marine1/1 wrote on Dec 12, 2008 9:44 AM:

" Tapping into what they call a giant Aquifur is a joke. Look at the report. Property owners out in the coombsville road and First Ave. area can tell you all about what happens in a few years when you tap into underground water. There is no GIANT Aquifur and the city of Napa is already bad trouble with a water crisis. If we continue to not have rain, it will only be worse now. Leave the Napa Pipe propery alone for the next ten years and re-evaluate it then. With the water problems the city of Napa already have with the State, housing will never be good for that location due to water and traffic. Rogal needs to complete his already approved down town projects anyways. I am glad the city of Napa did not fall into the deep pockets of another developer. "

Napa Voter wrote on Dec 12, 2008 10:27 AM:

" Haven't we been hearing about shools closing due to declining enrollment? They are even talking about closing schools, so I don't get it. Yes, all the mitigatin measures should be taken care of by the developer. And Bornin74 - don't let the door hit you on your way out! "

5th generation napan wrote on Dec 12, 2008 10:50 AM:

" Tell you what, lets build houses in the defunct Copia, and Dey Labs properties.
God how stupid is this "out of town group". We need to look at an INDUSTRY in this location, JOBS! Why infate ourselfs with houses no one can afford. There use to be a ton of industries in NAPA. Frankly, I'm getting tried of my money going into some out of towners pocket the could care less about this town and its people. Find an industry and employer for this location, be a role model NAPA and do something unusual in this day and age. Become a manufacturing town again. Remember the "Napa leather glove", or the "Napa Stone" our masons built the city with! Remember the LA Class submarines the protected our shores built by NAPANs and VALLEJO! Yah, I didn't think any of you remembered that. It was a time when Napa prospered. "

Cadence wrote on Dec 12, 2008 11:18 AM:

" Napa Voter, Yes, some schools are closing. They close more because of demographic shifts than because of lack of students overall.
Neighborhoods age. Kids grow up and no longer need the neighborhood elementary school; they need a middle school and next a high school. Some older families move up and out, but others stay.
Typically younger families are the ones with young kids. They are heavily in the mix of those targeted when affordable/low income housing is mentioned. Younger families have kids and those kids need schools, ideally, schools not miles from their homes.
Can you really be suggesting adding even MORE to the gawd-awful congestion that's coming by forcing legions of school buses into the mix?
(Btw, I don't see why schools aren't ALL built with portable units. The schools could then follow demographic shifts. However, most teachers and students believe they are relegated to second class status when they use portable buildings.)
The SILENCE of the Rogal apologists when lack of schools is mentioned is very, very telling. They don't plan anything other than dumping those kids into city schools and they don't care how the students get there. They assume that when things get bad enough, dumb*** townies will pony up the dough to build what's needed. "

4gnapan wrote on Dec 12, 2008 11:19 AM:

" We do whine with the very best..

If you want a good idea of what will happen at Napa Pipe.. take a look at Mare Island. A lovely proposed 1400 home project that was supposed to be built out *last year*... has all of 300ish homes, and those poor people are being taxed into the poorhouse by the city of Vallejo. The developer is claiming Bankruptcy. None of the promised "services" have been built on the island yet, because the environmental cleanup hasn't even begun.

see any similarity there?

Napa Pipe needs to be sold to an industrial bidder... perhaps Intel? "

abouttime wrote on Dec 12, 2008 11:20 AM:

" 5th Generation, Napa will never, never again be a manufacturing town. We don't do that anymore. By the time this conversation about Napa Pipe is over, the US auto industry should be pretty much gone. We have an industry, it's call wine, hospitality and tourism. It's low environmental impact, it cushions us from recession, it keeps property values up and its clean. We should be grateful for what we have, not longing for days gone by that will NEVER return. "

mikeb wrote on Dec 12, 2008 11:25 AM:

" If local government moves to change the zoning for the Napa Pipe property so that it's owners may develop it in whatever they feel is most economically advantageous to themselves that's fine, so long as every other property owner in the County is ALSO free to do anything they please with their property. Anything less would be blatantly discriminatory. Personally, I'm torn between my desire to constructing a highrise apartment building in the middle of an average Napa neighborhood vs. my dream of opening a tavern in my garage. "

reason-ator wrote on Dec 12, 2008 12:44 PM:

" I smell disaster in the making.

I agree. All the infrastructure needs absolutely MUST be built before the first occupants of the new-too-many ( yes, too with two o's ) move in. If they're not, I'll be checking voting records of council-members, mayors, and Supes when I go vote next time.

I wish I could see a way that this would NOT get messed up....... ( you know which piece of hardware I'd like to use that the stupid word filter won't let me use ). "

Grommitt wrote on Dec 12, 2008 1:46 PM:

" As I understand it, the site is just barely above sea level, which is predicted to rise as much as six feet this century. If indeed that happens, who will bail out the hapless property owners? "

Paddy wrote on Dec 12, 2008 2:01 PM:

" Congratulations City Council! You nailed this. Let's look at how the city can utilize this property for what it was zoned for. With massive infrastructure and Green projects about to hit the state this property is well positioned to attract industries that are about to be very busy.

Nice job! "

napa4change wrote on Dec 12, 2008 2:07 PM:

" Grommitt -- if you spent some time educating yourself on the project before you spoke, and actually attended a site tour then you would learn that the "hapless property owners" are raising the entire site a number of feet. They are considering climate change and what state the environment will be in, in 100 years. So I think they have it covered and will not need a bailout. "

napa4change wrote on Dec 12, 2008 2:12 PM:

" bornin74, manxkat -- have either of you 2 attended a site tour with Rogal? He discusses the issue of children and schools. Over and over actually.

The City is completely incompetent and I hope that this project remains with the county. "

Jen_94558 wrote on Dec 12, 2008 2:25 PM:

" The city is trying to pull a fast one on us. They make it sound like they are trying slow down or stop growth – but all they’re doing is taking the planned housing at Napa Pipe and cramming it into our neighborhoods. Some deal!
So where do we want housing – at an old industrial site – on ag land – or worse, right next door?
I for one support Napa Pipe moving forward with the County and letting everyone have a say – not the city hijacking the process and forcing more housing on us. "

5th generation napan wrote on Dec 12, 2008 2:27 PM:

" dear abouttime. The auto industry fell because of greed from the management, and stupid decisions. Companies today can be made green with low impact on the environment if you pay attention to what your doing with a small effect on the bottom line. And I'm really sorry but the though of our lives determined wholly by being host to the hospitality industry is as about as rediculous as the though of being an information country was that destroyed manufacuring in the 1980's. One bug could wipe out our "beautiful" tourist destination! The present American attitute of a country surviving without making a tangable product is a philosophy that can only end in the enslavement of a country by other better producing countries. We need to wake up and realize that "manufacturing" is not a bad word. You may want to have your future determined by everyone else with a stronger dollar than ours, but I'm not one of you. I was taught to make a living you make something and don't wait on people or the government "hoping" they will be kind to you. Who do you think is paying for our infastructure? The manufacture of wine! not tourist! Tourist are a byproduct of the wine "Industry" "

reader wrote on Dec 12, 2008 5:59 PM:

" Good, let's hope the county has the same good sense regarding Angwin. More clearly, the absolutely horrible impact this proposed development would have on the upper valley and Angwin. "

Paddy wrote on Dec 12, 2008 6:56 PM:

" I'm sure all of you falling over yourselves to push residential housing in an area not zoned for it are from the north or west side of Napa. You don't have to deal with the additional 26,000 car trips that this project will bring. And that's AFTER truckload after truckload after truckload for years will inundate our city.

" Napa Redevelopment Partners’ plan for Napa Pipe would be “unprecedented in its density and scale in the North Bay region,”"

The impact to this city is beyond reasonable and I'm grateful it's being dealt with. "

Jen_94558 wrote on Dec 13, 2008 1:37 PM:

" I am confused why the city even held this hearing when they admitted that they currently have no decision making power over Napa Pipe. Was this all for show?
The city is using scare tactics to stir people into a frenzy over Napa Pipe before all the facts are on the table. It’s a shame that our city leaders decided to hold a hastily scheduled last second meeting as a publicity stunt. Let the County do its job and stop getting in the way. "

TheWholeTruth wrote on Dec 13, 2008 3:59 PM:

" Oh, the facts are already on the table. Napa Pipe is land zoned industrial by founding members of this community much wiser then the servants who vie to place a new city in Napa valley and eliminate our last major property suited for industry in the process. These are the same guys who put all their money in fanny and freddie. Don't despair, the taxpayers will bail out Rogal as well. I Promise. "

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