NVR Logo
Winter homeless shelter site delayed
Friday, November 21, 2008
Save and Share Share
2 p.m.Placing the winter homeless shelter in a commercial area behind Wal-Mart was supposed to be a slam-dunk, but it turned out to be anything but.

Hearing of the proposal at the last minute, neighbors protested the decision before the City Council Tuesday, saying that Napa County, the shelter sponsor, hadn’t invited them to comment.
Surprised by the neighborhood grievance, the council put a hold on the shelter, forcing the county to rethink how it wants to proceed.

A winter shelter for up to 50 chronic homeless was proposed for an empty two-story office/warehouse building at 1098 Jordan Lane.
The Jordan Lane property was considered less problematic than placing the shelter at Napa Valley Exposition, Jim Featherstone, assistant director of Napa County Health and Human Services, said Friday.

In October, the Expo’s board of directors approved housing the shelter in one of its exhibit halls, while expressing concern about the impact on commercial rentals.
The county is rushing to open a temporary shelter on Jordan Lane before the weather gets worse, Featherstone said. “There are still people out there under bushes and blue tarps, getting colder and colder, wetter and wetter,” he said.

To move the project along, the Board of Supervisors scheduled a special meeting at 1 p.m. Tuesday to approve leasing 1098 Jordan for five months for $10,000.

The meeting was property noticed, but no effort was made to contact neighbors, Featherstone said. This isn’t required for leases, he said.

When neighbors showed up at the Board of Supervisors shortly after 1, the board had already approved the shelter on a 3-0 vote. Feeling hoodwinked, nearly two dozen of them showed up at the council’s 3:30 p.m. meeting.

The council was being asked to waive a requirement that the county give the city 60 days notice of a lease.

A half dozen residents, merchants and property managers spoke against the shelter and the lack of opportunity for public comment. Some said a shelter would lower property values, while others feared a rise in crime.

“We were all surprised that it was handled in this way and that none of us were informed what was going on,” Councilwoman Juliana Inman said afterward.

“Just putting a homeless shelter in a neighborhood without talking to the neighbors is a bad public process,” Councilman Mark van Gorder said.

The council voted 5-0 to not approve the 60-day waiver, while indicating a willingness to work with the county to get a shelter open as soon as possible.

“We have the same goals,” City Manager Mike Parness said Friday. “It’s more of a process question.”

Featherstone was scheduled to meet Friday afternoon with Parness, Mayor Jill Techel, Supervisor Brad Wagenknecht and County Administrator Nancy Watt to decide what happens next.

Featherstone said he was willing to meet with neighbors to fully explain the winter shelter operation. “I have no fear of large groups of people yelling at me. It’s an annual event,” he said.

The winter shelter was at Napa State Hospital in recent years. Before that, it was located at a former county fire station on Jefferson Street and in a downtown Napa church.

Adding fuel to the neighbor’s concern was the county’s announcement that it would lease 1098 Jordan through April 17, with an option to buy the building for $1.6 million.

The county needs additional space for its social service programs, but the Jordan Lane property is not being considered for a permanent shelter, Featherstone said.

The county currently doesn’t have the money to buy the building, but would look for funds while operating the winter shelter until spring, he said.

Inman said she wanted clarification of county intentions. She did not want a year-round shelter next to the planned river trail through the heart of the city, she said.

The county can do anything it wants with 1098 Jordan if it waits 60 days after putting the city on notice, Featherstone said. Unfortunately, a winter shelter is needed now, he said.

“There’s still the fairgrounds. There are still other things that we could do temporarily,” he said.

“I can certainly understand and support the need for a winter shelter,” Councilman Peter Mott said. “I hope we can get this done.”
33 comment(s)

smackers wrote on Nov 21, 2008 2:26 PM:

" Somehow i hope they can work it out to have on Jordan Ln. Its the best spot! "

smackers wrote on Nov 21, 2008 2:34 PM:

" I still think they could find something out at Napa State for it. With all those empty buildings they got out there. I don't know something doesn't sound right they can't put up a few people for 3 months. "

napabicycler wrote on Nov 21, 2008 3:32 PM:

" Who even lives near Jordan Lane? "

14obama wrote on Nov 21, 2008 3:42 PM:

" “I can certainly understand and support the need for a winter shelter,” Councilman Peter Mott said. “I hope we can get this done

What do you mean,Hope ? You WILL get it done ! Only if you're human ! "

tiredofcomplainingnapkins wrote on Nov 21, 2008 4:34 PM:

" I find this comment funny,
Featherstone said. “There are still people out there under bushes and blue tarps, getting colder and colder, wetter and wetter." If this was really a problem to these homeless people then they should get a job and have a roof over there heads. Sounds to me like they don't mind there living situation and we should just leave them alone. They know the living conditions during the winter, if they had a problem with it then they would get a job and get a place to live in "

SouthNapa wrote on Nov 21, 2008 5:45 PM:

" Newsflash: Not all homeless people don't want to get a job. Undoubtedly there are some homeless that don't want to get a job, but there are many people out there that need a place to sleep that are trying to get work. I am appalled at the heartlessness of some people, especially given the difficult times we are all facing. This shelter should have already been in place, and I hope the city and county will get this done ASAP.

The fairgrounds would have been fine, Jordan Lane would be fine. As the weather gets colder and colder by the day, there is no excuse for this not being done. The location for the winter shelter should have been decided months ago, and the fighting and crying over the location well into November is inexcusable and deplorable. "

kbf wrote on Nov 21, 2008 6:03 PM:

" News Flash for everyone. Homeless sleep down by the river, go to the park back by Ag. Extension office. Jordan lane would be perfect. The office for finding jobs is right by there and I think a place where there are meetings for addicts. "

hellokitty wrote on Nov 21, 2008 6:19 PM:

" maybe some of the homeless are trying to get a job.... but for what I see most of them just wondering around.... I really don't see them trying to go out and seeking for a job...... but don't get me rong NOT all homeless people are the same... I am just saying this because I have seen some really ridicoulous signs written on a card board paper " WHY LIE I NEED MONEY FOR A BEER" OR "WHY LIE NEED MONEY FOR CIGARRETES" yet there are some other homeless people that will come up to you and ask you if you got any job for them......the reason that I am saying all this is because I have two different opinions about the homeless shelter... I know economy is tough right now, so that is why do agree with a homeless shelter... especialy now that it gets really cold outside..... by the way who lives by jordan lane? "

kevin wrote on Nov 21, 2008 6:37 PM:

" Maybe if they delay it long enough winter will be over... "

verum wrote on Nov 21, 2008 8:45 PM:

" cryogenics. "

misfit wrote on Nov 21, 2008 10:22 PM:

" Duuuh...that's sooo funny verum.
grow up! "

Anon wrote on Nov 22, 2008 5:09 AM:

" A huge percentage of homeless are dealing with serious mental health issues. It's tough to hold down a steady job when, for example, you keep hearing voices in your head and you can't distinguish between what's real and what's not. Yes, there will always be some that could be working, but don't judge all of the homeless based on those people. "

truth wrote on Nov 22, 2008 6:59 AM:

" Napa County is known thoughout the bay area as one of the cushiest, "indigent-friendly" places, with tax payer provided clinics, food stamps, shelters, counseling and charities providing 3 hots a day. Maybe not having another tax-payer provided winter shelter will force these bums somewhere else. And for all you "oh, those poor disenfranchised, downtrodden dears" folks out there...we're talking about the chronically homeless here...there is a huge difference. Year after year...same bridge, different day. "

merri wrote on Nov 22, 2008 9:25 AM:

" COPIA? I would be willing to waive my portion of the 77 million dollar bond to open COPIA up to the homeless. I think that Bob might agree. "

robert wrote on Nov 22, 2008 10:04 AM:

" I agree with Truth. As a society (county, city?) we will not let dogs, or most other animals, run around free. But we will let crazy people take care of themselves under bridges and along the creeks/rivers? There is a disconnect here. It is a very difficult puzzle involving personal freedom, responsibility of the individual and society, and ultimately the question of "why are we all here?" Some of the homeless are unfortunate by birth. Others are simply bums (an ancient description, but apt) who know how to manipulate a system designed to help the truly unfortunate, a system that is at a loss as how to discriminate between the two and why it should. "

mom2priceboys wrote on Nov 22, 2008 10:34 AM:

" Some of these homeless do work but simply cannot afford rents or have an eviction and get told NO! when they apply for moderate/low income housing??? What are we to do to help these folks?
Also, they usually cannot afford a car either so traveling to live elsewhere is out of the question too. Have you ever tried to fully use the bus system here? How did you afford it??? "

tiredofcomplainingnapkins wrote on Nov 22, 2008 11:28 AM:

" I'm tired of hearing people trying to give excuses to stick up for the homeless. There are plenty of jobs available, just look at how many help wanted signs are on businesses around town. There are also rooms available for rent around the valley as low as 400 a month. Even making minimum wage would allow you to earn enough to have a room and pay for food. The fact is most of these people don't want that type of life. They don't want to work, and I'm fine with that, If they want to be homeless then leave them alone and let them be homeless. Just don't use my tax money to put them up. I could use some of that money back "

John Richards wrote on Nov 22, 2008 11:36 AM:

" Excellent location. The homeless can get their shopping carts from the nearby WalMart... "

mamyt wrote on Nov 22, 2008 11:53 AM:

" Truth: Thank you for reminding me the people of Napa are good and I'm proud to be a part of a city that cares for the indigent. "

glenroy wrote on Nov 22, 2008 1:00 PM:

" The solution is to get these druggies and drunks into treatment or provide shelter at the State Hospital where they can get both…. They don’t belong in neighborhoods or in business districts… "

grateful wrote on Nov 22, 2008 1:10 PM:

" I find it very interesting that 6 people are against an evening shelter on Jordan Lane. It happens that untill recently, due to rents becoming higher, the Napa Valley Alano Club was on Jordan for over 13 years. This club served everyone suffering from alcoholism and drug abuse, including the homeless. People were coming and going every day and night for meetings or just conversation. The club had luas with live bands (city permit in hand) and many people were helped in the transition from street to community citizens. No one complained all those years. Why now? "

LifeLongNapan wrote on Nov 22, 2008 1:11 PM:

" They should put it on south Atlas Peak Road. "

Ephemerol wrote on Nov 22, 2008 3:41 PM:

" Homeless is a misnomer that continues to linger even after all of these years. These people need to be 'carefully' tended to in individuated and personalized programs of counseling, psychotherapy and much more. This all began here many years ago when the State shut down it's hospitals and threw it's hospital inmates to the streets of California with no coverage, care or concern. In Germany, during the war, they were euthanised as 'worthless eaters' and were demonized as a drain on the power, progress and privilege of a civilized Germany. If these people were homeless vintners displaced by a catastrophic firestorm or earthquake, they would be living in luxury hotels or in very* expensive long term government shelter programs with all expenses paid. Something to ponder the next time the earth shakes here, and shake it will in time. "

korikill wrote on Nov 22, 2008 4:03 PM:

" I worked with the homeless for many years. Approximately 80% of homeless people suffer from some form of mental disability, and many are on State of SS Disability.
Unfortunately, those payments can be far less than the "$400 you can rent a room for".

And as another (kind) poster said, it probably is very hard to keep ANY job when you cannot tell reality from the voices in your head.

Until you've walked a mile in a homeless persons shoes, do NOT assume you know anything about their situation YOU DO NOT.

FYI, even Jesus took care of the less fortunate. Maybe you all should consider doing the same. "

pharper wrote on Nov 22, 2008 4:20 PM:

" What I find interesting is the couple that occasionally stands near the KFC in the Target shopping center with a sign asking for money, when across the street there are people willing to work for money in order to support their families.

I think a homeless shelter for the winter is a great idea. No one wants to be homeless; when I hear people say to "get a job," I have to wonder at how well-informed they are about the current economic state. If it's hard for those of us who have jobs, how hard to you think it would be for someone who is homeless to even get a job at all? Employers don't want to hire someone who is homeless, but someone without a job can't get a home, and so most people who are homeless are stuck without options. Rather than disparaging them because they are less fortunate than we are, how about sticking by those Christian values and opening our hearts and minds to help our fellow man? "

napavalleyman wrote on Nov 22, 2008 9:33 PM:

" We can all express our opinions. I only have a question: What would Jesus do? "

reason-ator wrote on Nov 22, 2008 9:43 PM:

" korikill, there are people with pre-conceived notions, stereotypes, and poor opinions that are being inconvenienced by your facts. Thank you.

It's scary how many people may be on the brink of homelessness and are just waiting for the economy to take its toll and collect its next victims. "

dre83 wrote on Nov 24, 2008 9:14 AM:

" There is a problem with this whole thing. Yes, there are some crazy-nutty-weird homeless people out there. And there are ones who simply can't afford to pay rent or rent a room for $600 a month. As far as jobs, NO ONE will hire them because they are homeless or have a poor background in the work area. What I don't get is how people who have EVERYTHING can totally go against helping the homeless...but if you were to put yourself in their shoes, it would be a totally different story. Especially right now with the economy being so bad, there aren't many jobs available. And there are innocent ones who do try and look for work but don't have much luck. Then on the other hand, there are the ones who do stupid things or don't even care about work and what-not. It basically all comes down to one thing. They need warmth too. They want to feel loved around this time of year too. Why do you think some of them are so mean when you see them. They are trying to defend themselves automatically because they think we're going to immediatly look at them funny or put them down at first sight. In my opinion I think that is so sad. There was a time when I myself was homeless for 2 years, but that didn't mean I was crazy or need a place to stay for a little while. I worked my butt off trying to help myself and others when I was homeless. Think again and open your hearts & minds. They need shelter just as much as we do! Give them a little break. It'll do us all some good!! "

Raven wrote on Nov 24, 2008 4:56 PM:

" dafly might I suggest you stop using all caps.....makes it so much more difficult to read.... "

dafly wrote on Nov 24, 2008 5:44 PM:

" no, but thank you for your thoughts. might i suggest you try glasses if you are having reading troubles.
Capital lettering is used to make strong or underlined points on blog sight . just a little tid bit for you .
:o) have a nice day!!!! "

Inked wrote on Nov 24, 2008 8:37 PM:

" I too believe that there should be a permanent place during the colder months for the homeless. However, I work in one of the businesses that could be affected due to this development. All I (and the rest of the merchants in the neighborhood) would like is for our voices to be heard as well. I'm sure there is a positive way for us all to get what we're wanting. "

Raven wrote on Nov 28, 2008 7:45 AM:

" dafly ... I understand the reason for the caps but your emphasis on a particular point is lost when everything you write is in caps "

areyoubitter wrote on Nov 28, 2008 4:50 PM:

" FACE IT, NONE OF US TRULY KNOW WHAT'S GOING. The homeless are not all the same. We see some "wandering around" as one said. Have you ever delt with mental illness? Have you delt with the state? BECAUSE OF A LACK OF HEALTHCARE IN THE USA THESE PEOPLE JUST MAY BE SICK. hOW DO YOU KNOW?!
yES, maybe some are on drugs I don't think this is the main issue. Mental issues even post drugs remain and meds are not cheap nor is healthcare.
Who is helping these people. Some out there. Sounds like we have a lot of judgment going on here. WHat if it was your child?! Think about it. "

Comment Guidelines
The goal of the story comments section at NapaValleyRegister.com is to have an open, thought-provoking, civil community forum for all issues.
What gets your comment posted?
• Staying on topic
• Keeping your comment to 300 words or less
• Avoiding name-calling
• Addressing your comments to the message rather than the messenger
What gets your comment deleted?
• Personal attacks
• Derogatory remarks
• Name-calling of any sort
• Going off-topic
• Hate speech
• Racially-insensitive comments
• Implying guilt of a subject in a crime story before there is a court verdict
• Posting e-mail addresses
• Posting comments of a commercial nature
• POSTING WITH ALL CAPITAL LETTERS
• Linking multiple comments together with "to be continued..." to get around the 300 word limit.
The fine print
- Comments are either approved or denied. We do not edit comments.
- You are welcome to modify and resubmit a denied comment.
- Comments may take several hours to be posted.
- Comments posted are those of the writer, and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of NapaValleyRegister.com, its employees or its parent company.
- Do you have information on a story? Please go to our virtual newsroom to send us a news tip.
- If you feel a posted comment has violated our guidelines, please contact online@napanews.com or add a comment indicating you have an issue and our moderators will review the comment in question.
Search:
Web Search Powered
By Yahoo! Search
Napa Valley Register on Facebook
Copyright © 2009 Napa Valley Publishing, a member of Lee Enterprises, Inc.
Terms of Use | Privacy Policy