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In business for more than 60 years in Napa County, Piner’s Ambulance is under financial strain caused by a delay in the repayment of nearly $1 million in Medicare claims. J.L. Sousa/Register | Buy photos
Friday, November 21, 2008
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Piner’s Ambulance employees are among the first to respond to local medical emergencies, but now the company is dealing with a crisis of its own.

A two-month-long gap in Medicare payments to Piner’s recently prompted the ambulance company’s owners to take drastic measures. In an unprecedented move, the husband-and-wife team is borrowing money against its own home to meet payroll costs, according to Jeremy Piner, operations manager at Piner’s.
“I have obligations to make sure that my employees get paid for their work, whether I get paid or not,” said Gary Piner, who co-owns the company with his wife, Starr.

Jeremy Piner said the company receives about 53 percent of its income from Medicare payments, adding that the enterprise will be unable to weather mounting backlogged claims for more than a few months. At this point, he said, Piner’s is owed about $1 million in Medicare claims.
If you ask Piner’s and another area ambulance provider, the trouble started when the federal government switched Medicare billing companies — agencies that process patient claims dictating Medicare payments. The change happened in early October, when the government awarded a contract to  South Carolina-based  Palmetto GBA, Jeremy Piner said, adding that he believes the previous company, National Heritage Insurance Company, was outbidded for the job.

Medic Ambulance of Solano County, which is also served by Palmetto, is having similar trouble recovering its due share of Medicare claims, according to Kristi Mendez, the company’s billing office manager. The company is owed roughly $1 million in unpaid Medicare reimbursements, she said.
“It’s about two to three months since we’ve received any money from Medicare because of the transition. ... As far as Piner’s is concerned, we’re definitely in the same boat. We’re backlogged for money, that’s for sure,” she said.

But not all Palmetto clients are having the same trouble, according to Jeff Davis, communications manager at St. Helena Hospital.

“We are submitting our Medicare claims through Palmetto GBA,” Davis said in an e-mail. “The transition from NHIC to Palmetto GBA has been fairly smooth for us.”

Although Piner’s experience with Palmetto is much different, Gary Piner said Napa County residents are not in immediate danger of losing ambulance services partly because Charter Oak Bank has increased the company’s line of credit at a time when many banks are hesitant to extend loans at all.

As head of the 62-year-old business that provides about 35 ambulance calls daily, Piner said he also enlisted the help of Rep. Mike Thompson, D-St. Helena, who contacted Palmetto on the behalf of Piner’s Ambulance.

“We decided we would call him and see if there was something he could do because this is basically a federal issue, a Medicare issue,” Piner said, adding that the effort yielded a promise from Palmetto to pay Piner’s for the majority of the backlogged claims by about Dec. 1.

“Our Medicare providers deserve to be paid promptly for their services,” Thompson said in a statement. “To expect Piner Ambulance — the only emergency medical service provider in Napa County — to wait on $700,000 worth of payments for 1,400 unreimbursed calls is inexcusable. ... But this is not a problem that is isolated to Napa. I’ve met with the head of Medicare to discuss this problem and will continue to work for systemic changes to resolve this issue.”

Torris Smith, an associate regulatory administrator for financial management for the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services — the agency that holds the contract with Palmetto — said Wednesday that Piner’s should have received the bulk of their overdue funds Thursday.

“I’ll tell you right now as soon as I became aware of this situation, I contacted Piner’s and spoke to (Piner’s general manager) Stewart Slipiec. ... Palmetto has actually overnighted him a check of 70 percent of (the) claims that were already in the system,” he said. “They’ve already identified the solution to his provider enrollment issues.”

Smith said he did not know whether NHIC was outbidded by Palmetto, adding that Palmetto will have any remaining issues with Piner’s cleared up by Dec. 31.

“We’re working closely with the California Medical Association and physicians’ groups to improve the (overall) situation,” he said.

A Register reporter’s first call to Palmetto on Wednesday was met with a recorded voice announcing at least a 30-minute wait time to speak to a representative. During a second call, a Palmetto customer service representative said any questions must be addressed to the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services.

“(This is) unheard of where I come from. ... It’s been a rather scary time considering that Medicare is half of our business and they’re not paying us,” Gary Piner said. “I as a business guy cannot afford to lose 50 percent of my income for very long.”

Piner added that many area physicians are experiencing similar Medicare reimbursement issues with Palmetto.

“I would really like this not to be all about Piner’s because the physicians are in the same boat as we are. ... We’re not at risk at this point. I still have plenty of assets and our bank is very happy to help out,” Piner said.
17 comment(s)

Dirty Napkin wrote on Nov 21, 2008 6:10 AM:

" How could they be.. It cost us over $600 to drive from Joe's Chevron, to the Queen.. "

manxkat wrote on Nov 21, 2008 11:47 AM:

" Let them go under. I have to laugh that the employees will lose their jobs because as soon as they unionized they went on strike for wages and benefits that have ruined the company - just like GM, Ford, Chrysler, United Airlines, Eastern Arilines, the steel industry and every other unionized employer that has been ruined by the greedy unions. "

Dwayne wrote on Nov 21, 2008 12:55 PM:

" The only time that you want an ambulance ride is you're too incapacitated to say, "No"....

That $600 six-block ride is one of the reasons medical costs are through the roof... "

Dirty Napkin wrote on Nov 21, 2008 1:34 PM:

" Its only 2 blocks.. lol "

Lee wrote on Nov 21, 2008 2:12 PM:

" I am sorry. Have any of you ever needed an ambulance? Have any of you ever looked at what the requirements are for an EMT or a ParaMedic. Have any of you ever had a family member who needed an ambulance to the hospital to save their lives. I for one greatly appreciate the knowledge and expertise that ambulance personel bring to the job and they deserve every penny they earn. I was fortunate a couple of years ago to survive because a Paramedic and an ambulance service knew what to do or I wouldn't be here today ragging on you all. But you know what, I could have been one of your relatives. "

pinkflame wrote on Nov 21, 2008 2:15 PM:

" WOW thats harsh opinions coming from Napa Valley residents. Lets hope you dont smash your self up on 29 and need Piner's to respond. "

sickothis wrote on Nov 21, 2008 2:25 PM:

" Don't like it? Get yourself to the queen. "

UncleStuy wrote on Nov 21, 2008 2:26 PM:

" I know I am going to catch heck for this. So, consider this.

Your bill is something on the order of this:

1: Code Three (Lights and Siren)Response: $50-100
3:After hours response: $50-100
4:Oxygen- $40-100
5:Basic Charge $400-500
6: Per milage rate $10-20

There are other charges, too many to list here. Depends on the circumstances.

The basic ambulance charge is about $1200.00 (average)

Consider Insurance, pay for the 2 people who are driving or attending, gas, operation and maintenance. making the payment on the ambulance itself. Maintaing equipment and the cost of the equipment and supplies are expensive to buy.
A@@, gas or grass, The Ambulance is not free. Also, there is only ONE ambulance in town. They have a monoply here in town. Back in the day, there was John's Ambulance, 1 ambulance, but you did not want a ride in that one, well, maybe to the morgue. It would'nt really matter then. "

Talk_is_cheap wrote on Nov 21, 2008 2:37 PM:

" If everyone had insurance and/or if everyone paid their bills, those rides would be much more reasonably priced. As with everything else in medicine those that have insurance or can afford to pay subsidize those that cannot. You would be suprised how low the collection rate is for ambulance services. Most companies lose money on the emergency 911 type calls. They make that up on their "scheduled transports". "

Raven wrote on Nov 21, 2008 2:59 PM:

" every time I hear the let them go under shouts I think, ah yes...the trickle down theory at work....''

dwayne, you ever tried to price out just what it costs to equip one ambulance with the latest in life-saving equipment? what don't you want them to have onboard when you have to use one? "

paramedic wrote on Nov 21, 2008 4:44 PM:

" The union was for equal and fair treatment not money. You can always refuse the ambulance. "

Bear_the_dog wrote on Nov 21, 2008 4:48 PM:

" Piner's... "the only emergency medical service provider in Napa County"? What about Napa City Fire? Sure they don't transport with their own vehicles, but they are a provider. What about Angwin Community Ambulance? Granted, Angwin is basic-life support instead of advanced-life support, but they too are an emergnecy medical services provider. Come on Mike Thompson, get to know the area you represent. I'm sure he was meaning that there isn't a lot of competition in Napa, but there ARE other providers. "

hellokitty wrote on Nov 21, 2008 6:31 PM:

" I think people wouldn't be complaining a lot only "if" health coverage was affordable....... "

Dwayne wrote on Nov 21, 2008 6:39 PM:

" Talk_is_cheap wrote on Nov 21, 2008 2:37 PM:
" If everyone had insurance and/or if everyone paid their bills, those rides would be much more reasonably priced...."

Yep, the people who can't pay, don't, and the ones who can pay or have insurance get ripped off, just like going to the emergency room...

How does it feel to do everything right, pay your high insurance premium, and subsidize indigents...??? About the same as having good credit by paying your mortgage on time yet being taxed to subsidize those who shouldn't have had loans in the first place...

Talk about "spreading the wealth", this is highway robbery... "

Paddy wrote on Nov 21, 2008 7:27 PM:

" Piner's should do what GMAC is proposing to do, add a retail bank to their charter in order to become eligible for some of that $700,000,000,000 bailout. "

Proud Daughter wrote on Nov 21, 2008 8:19 PM:

" I stand behind Piner's Ambulance. They saved my Mother's life in August, 2008.

Although she died 4 days later at QVMC, her unfortunate demise would have been met earlier without Piner's and QVMC.

Because of the professionalism and the humanity that they put forth to my Mom, I was able to get home from vacation and spend time with her before her passing. I would not have been afforded that opportunity had it not been for Piners.

Additionally, because of my job, I have had many, many dealings with Piner's staff regarding bills that we have received for our patients. I have gotten to know the Piner's billing staff quite well and know that they are devoted to their work and to the people of Napa.

For the blessing that they gave me in helping my Mom and helping my younger sister in the 80's, I would pay anything that was asked of me in terms of what they charged for transport.

Nothing brings back someone's life once it is gone, but quite frankly, I trust Piner's staff for any unforeseen (heaven forbid) emergencies that might transpire in my lifetime.

Thank you Piner's. May you get through this economic crisis also. "

db76 wrote on Nov 21, 2008 11:35 PM:

" manxkat, do you know how much EMT's make? You say you laugh at them because they unionize, but in reality, they make between $8 and $12 per hour, sometimes without benefits. So why are you laughing? The people who are entrusted with saving YOUR LIFE make as much money as the coffee slinger at Peets Coffee. "

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