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Wrong-way traffic driving neighbors to complain
Sunday, November 16, 2008
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A one-way street does not good neighbors make.

Residents of the Green Meadows subdivision in south Napa are asking the city to crack down on scofflaws from Sheveland Ranch who ignore one-way street restrictions between the two neighborhoods.
When the city approved the homes at Sheveland Ranch in 2003, the extension of Greenbach Street into Sheveland Ranch was limited to southbound traffic.

This restriction was intended to prevent the new residents at Sheveland Ranch from using Greenbach as a northbound shortcut to Imola Avenue.
Green Meadow residents have been complaining ever since that motorists from Sheveland Ranch ignore the “Do Not Enter” signs.

Thirty-two vehicles broke the one-way rule during a one-week survey in late October, the city’s Traffic Advisory Committee learned Thursday.
“These are flagrant violations to us,” John Paul, a Green Meadows resident, told committee members. Over a year’s time, that’s 1,664 violations “that nobody seems to want to do something about,” he said.

Green Meadow residents have tried flagging down the violators, many of whom speed, and talking to the Sheveland Ranch homeowners’ association, but with little success, the committee was told.

“These people are very arrogant,” Betty O’Grady said of the worst of the scofflaws.

The city’s Public Works Department conceded that frequent police stakeouts hadn’t stopped the violators. “We’ve created an almost impossible situation,” Public Works Director Mike O’Bryon said.

Over the past 26 months, police reported issuing 10 citations for wrong-way driving into Green Meadows. A radar trailer was parked on Greenbach 11 times in response to complaints about speeders.

Officers have monitored Greenbach Street many times without observing any violations, while noting that Greenbach carries a low level of traffic, the Public Works Department reported.

The city could install a gate triggered by southbound vehicles or close the street connection entirely, city staff said. A spike strip that shredded the tires of violators was also mentioned.

The best solution might be to leave the street connection as it is, but increase police enforcement, public works said.

Traffic-actuated gates could turn out to be a major expense to maintain, officials said.

Helena Allison, a city traffic consultant, said some cities have had success handing out radar guns to residents who could build court cases against violators.

This was rejected as too confrontational, putting Green Meadows residents at risk.

Police Chief Rich Melton suggested installing a camera that snapped a picture of violators.

Tom Trzesniewski, a planning commissioner who sits on the traffic committee with two council members, suggested dramatically raising the fine for one-way violations. “Bring it up to a thousand bucks,” he said.

The city’s police and fire departments do not want the street connection closed, saying that Green Meadows residents need a second way to exit their subdivision in an emergency.

The Traffic Advisory Committee asked the police department to look at the feasibility of boosting citation fines and installing a camera.
20 comment(s)

jpcrash wrote on Nov 16, 2008 2:20 AM:

" put in one way spike strips like they have at airports and parking garages. That'll make them stop "

jwk wrote on Nov 16, 2008 3:52 AM:

" Another Bright move by The City creating this problem. We're next with the One Way only new street at the Newly approved Subdivision in upper Browns Valley. They've created the same condition there with over building and poor planning. And still no fire station.. The SPIKE Strips sound like the solution and/or Traffic Camera. AND The city shouldn't complain about the cost because they were warned this would happen prior to approving these debacles.. ANother "THWTL". To Hell with The Locals!!!!! "

Dirty Napkin wrote on Nov 16, 2008 5:27 AM:

" That street is a bunch of hooey. Just make it wider and 2 way, and it will be all fixed! "

FaithNHope wrote on Nov 16, 2008 8:00 AM:

" Just a suggestion, but why not ask for the city or the home owner's association to install a spike strip on the road?

I am talking about the kind that is used at the Disneyland parking lots and also at other big events/parking lots. The spikes will slash the driver's tires if they are going against the accepted flow of traffic. Usually there are BIG warning signs posted which tell the driver that their tires will be severely damaged if they proceed further.

I'm not trying to be mean by suggesting this. I am just saying that it is a method that would work. "

jluros wrote on Nov 16, 2008 8:38 AM:

" How about everyone calm down and realize this is not a good use of time or resources and just make the street two-way? We went down there yesterday to take a look around and found that the signage about how to get out is nonexistent. I would imagine that at least some of the so-called lawlessness (which I have to say, these local residents wouldn't recognize if it hit them in the face) is due to the developers and/or property management company never having installed directions on how to get back to Imola.

Get a grip, people. "

SouthNapa wrote on Nov 16, 2008 8:47 AM:

" As a resident of the Sheveland Ranch area who does follow the rules, I say fence it off. It would keep the undesirables who live in that neighborhood out of ours. People on Greenbach Street should clean up their dump of a neighborhood before complaining about the residents of Sheveland Ranch. The last time I checked our neighborhood hasn't had any stabbings and we manage to park our cars on our street instead of the front lawn. "

kevin wrote on Nov 16, 2008 8:59 AM:

" Why not just get rid of the stupid one way street restriction?

Another idiotic law that no one obeys.

When will they learn... "

nan03 wrote on Nov 16, 2008 9:12 AM:

" maybe the ones going the wrong way on your oneway street can't read, Your police are too busy with other things, drug bust, ect. Make bigger sings. "

reason-ator wrote on Nov 16, 2008 9:19 AM:

" Hey, if they get extra cops for their street, I want extra cops for our street too ! Cars go too fast on our street, too.

They shouldn't get a disproportionate share of our resources unless they pay extra. "

Kiddo Young wrote on Nov 16, 2008 9:37 AM:

" I can understand why some residents of Greenbach St. are upset about people who live in the Sheveland Ranch subdivision. Ignoring the one-way signs can definitely be a risk for accidents. I live in the Sheveland Ranch area, and although it's been tempting to sneak through the one-way street the wrong direction, I've never done it.

If it's that big of a deal, why not just close it off? So what if the residents of Greenbach St. don't have a second exit from their neighborhood in case of an emergency? I certainly don't. The only way out of my neighborhood is by going down Atrium Pkwy to S. Jefferson St. The Green Meadows subdivision had been there for decades before the second exit was created back in 2003.

If there was an emergency, and I needed to get out of here quickly by going the wrong way down a one way stretch of road that's about 150 ft in length, I'd do it in a heartbeat. So, to Mrs. Betty O'Grady...if that makes me arrogant, then so be it. "

old_napan wrote on Nov 16, 2008 9:43 AM:

" The tire shredder idea is the cheapest solution but comes with a noise factor that the properties closest to the device must live with. The other solutions are too expensive and require lots of maintenance and monitoring. The easiest way to handle this problem is to put up fixed gates that could be closed if more than an acceptable amount of violations are observed or cited. There's nothing like using peer pressure on the violators when the law-abiding lose their privileges. "

napanana wrote on Nov 16, 2008 11:38 AM:

" Soooo do any of you actually think that the false promises the developers/County made to the residents of Greenbach actually meant to keep and enforce it? Just another blinder thrown in to get the development approved. Blocking off the road will just cause a hazard in case of an emergency....leaving it open to 2 way traffic will upset some people.
I guess I can complain about the fact that when I bought my home 30 some odd years ago.....the traffic on my street was just about nill. Now with all the new development ...I have CARS driving down MY street and I just don't like it! Oh What to do...what to do..... "

John Richards wrote on Nov 16, 2008 3:13 PM:

" How can I get the city to limit traffic on my street? I too would like to keep out the undesirables.
Seriously though, a tire shredder strip might not be good for fire engines and ambulances responding to an emergency. California law does not permit such a thing on public streets for a good reason. "

asdfa2355 wrote on Nov 16, 2008 3:51 PM:

" Just make it a two-way street! That neighborhood is a maze. I have gotten lost in there before and after spending 5 or 10 minutes trying to find the "right" way out, I gave up and just used the one-way street to get out. Nobody has time to drive around trying to find the way out. It's easier to just go out the same way you went in. Those people who live there can deal with a little more traffic just like everyone else has to deal with traffic. "

mafi wrote on Nov 16, 2008 4:50 PM:

" What's going on w/ 2nd street?? On Thursday morning a driver was heading straight at me and then after I crossed over Jefferson another driver turned onto 2nd going the wrong way- I began to think I was going the wrong direction- are there sings missing or something?!! "

npma wrote on Nov 16, 2008 7:52 PM:

" So these guys complain and the city talks about how to fix the probelm,Humm how about us over here on Eggleston st we have wrong way drivers all the time we have complained many many times yet to no avail.I really fell for these people.the jack-a-moes that go the wrong way usualy speed it is very dangerous.Please do something befor someone gets hurt!!!! "

old_napan wrote on Nov 16, 2008 10:14 PM:

" Ever hear the noise these shredders generate as vehicles drive over them in the correct direction? They are very noisy and I'm sure the people living near them will have figured out they have traded one problem for another. As far as the person complaining about the condition of the existing neighborhood, they should stay out of there if they don't like it. I would imagine this person's complaint would underscore the desire of the Sheveland Ranch residents to use this street as a shortcut. My own personal preference would be to see the Sheveland Ranch return to the peaceful pasture it once was. "

whoa cowboy wrote on Nov 17, 2008 12:49 AM:

" If there reallyare that many breaking the law maybe the most profitable idea would be to go ahead and station an officer there and ticket them all. Cha-ching! That will stop them pretty fast and possibly make a few buck for the city. Just because their breaking the law doesn't mean that the law should be changed. It's their attitudes that need to be changed. "

smoothsailin1234 wrote on Nov 20, 2008 11:48 PM:

" That one way street hurts both green meadows and shreveland ranch. Green Meadows has to deal with more traffic coming in and out, and shreveland ranch just got their nice neighborhood opened up to a dumpster. Either make it a two-way, or seal that road up. Set spikes, I'll personally pull them out. "

smoothsailin1234 wrote on Nov 21, 2008 12:02 AM:

" P.S.- Answer this question. How can you complain about traffic going out, when there is ten times as much traffic going in? Did you think about counting those numbers? And if you just don't like traffic, then lets agree on closing the road. Spikes? Officers? if that's the case, Green Meadows has declared themselves as a selfish, uneducated community. "

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