Touring Napa Pipe
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Devloper Keith Rogal hosts a public tour of Napa Pipe and development use of the industrial area along the Napa River, on Wednesday, October 29, 2008. Napa Redevelopment Partners bought the site in 2005. Lianne Milton/Register |
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Sheila Cox listens to developer Keith Rogal during a public tour of Napa Pipe, on Wednesday, October 29, 2008. Rogal talked about the possibilities of what the abandoned dry docks could be used for, such as for kayakers and rowers. Lianne Milton/Register |
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Developer Keith Rogal hosted a public tour of Napa Pipe to show the development plans of the industrial area, on Wednesday, October 29, 2008. Lianne Milton/Register |
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An abandoned dry dock with water reminiscent of the old days of a functioning Napa Pipe, on Wednesday, October 29, 2008.
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Steve Orndorf, a member of Napa Redevelopment Partners, center, walks Napa residents during a public tour of Napa Pipe, on Wednesday, October 29, 2008.
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A proposal by Napa Redevelopment Partners will include the development of 3200 town homes at the former Napa Pipe location. Developer Keith Rogal hosted a public tour of Napa Pipe of the vacant area, on Wednesday, October 29, 2008. Lianne Milton/Register |
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Residents take a walk to check out developer’s plans
By JILLIAN JONES
Register Staff Writer
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A flock of Napa County residents buzzed through the Napa Pipe property Wednesday night, during one of a series of walking tours designed to educate the public about the controversial proposal for the south county site.
“Where we’re standing right now would be the last of a network of parks,” developer Keith Rogal told the crowd of 38, stretching his arms across the industrial land.
Standing at the other end of the 154-acre property, Rogal said, “Where we are now — the dry docks — is what we really think of as the center of this neighborhood.”
Participants squinted into the distance as if straining to envision a bustling new neighborhood where aging industrial equipment currently dots the skyline.
Under the proposal by Rogal’s Napa Redevelopment Partners, the Napa Pipe site would feature 3,200 townhomes as well as retail and industrial activity on land that once served as a Kaiser Steel plant, where ships and the bones of skyscrapers were manufactured.
The Napa County Board of Supervisors voted to study the residential project in 2007, and a series of reports on related environmental issues are expected in coming weeks.
The proposal for what would be the largest development of its kind in unincorporated county land has met with fiery opposition from some residents. City of Napa officials in particular have expressed concerns that a huge residential development just outside the city of Napa could siphon away resources and strain services. In June, Napa Pipe proponents poured $1.4 million into defeating a ballot measure that would have killed the proposal.
Rogal, however, painted a prettier picture of the development Wednesday night, beckoning the crowd to imagine a lively neighborhood with restaurants, hotels, a corner store and outdoor movie theater. At the river’s edge, he described what could be a saltwater swimming pool, a boat house for a rowing club and a dock for kayaking and canoeing. Residents could hop on a rail car or travel via water taxi into downtown Napa.
“You can kind of get a sense of what a pleasant spot it could be,” Rogal told the group.
Rogal said the walking tours — Wednesday marks the third so far — provide locals the opportunity to ask questions in a more informal format than at a traditional public meeting.
“This is a really important project for the future of the community, and people deserve to understand it fully,” he said. “People cannot make an intelligent assessment … without being here.”
Rogal said invitations went out by mail to all registered voters in Napa County. About 120 people attended the first three tours, he said, and another 160 are signed up for tours in November. Rogal said he will continue to offer tours as long as residents express interest.
Mike Fisher, a board member for the St. Helena Chamber of Commerce, said he signed up for the walking tour so that he could learn more about the project, which he feels could affect residents countywide.
“I’m curious,” he said. “The proposal is huge, and I just wanted to be more educated so if it ever comes to the point where I have to decide if I support it, I know what I’m talking about.”
Chris Smalley, who lives in Napa just across the river from Napa Pipe, wanted to know if the proposal had all of the elements of a sustainable community.
“Is there a local place to get fresh foods? Do people not have to drive out? What about the flood plain?” she asked.
“I’d like to hear the issues directly from the person,” she said.
Many members of the tour group had already made up their minds about Napa Pipe, and wanted to see in-person the project they said they support.
“I think it’s a really good idea,” William Moore of Napa said, calling it a “sensible solution” to the county’s housing needs. Moore, who served as the project director for residential development at Mare Island, said Napa Pipe is a “similar project but smaller.”
John Sensenbaugh, a resident of Napa, admitted he had some concerns about the size of the proposal.
“Three thousand (homes) sounds like a lot,” he said, “but I never saw (Napa Pipe) before.”
After 45 minutes plodding through the site, Sensenbaugh said, “You don’t appreciate how big this area is without seeing it.”
At the end of the tour, Rogal led the group through a PowerPoint presentation, stressing in particular the needs of the commuting workforce and the county’s imbalance between housing and jobs.
He addressed concerns about issues such as traffic, noise and the availability of services. Studies on these issues by independent consultants are under way and expected shortly.
In response to one question about the possible annexation of the property to the city of Napa, Rogal said, “Personally, I don’t anticipate (annexation).”
If, after the project is built, the community decides to pursue a vote to annex the land, “that’s fine. Right now, there’s no particular reason to look that way.”
Rogal noted that “the plan has a lot of specificity,” but stressed that it is “not because it is the final plan.” The current level of details, he said, allows the project to be analyzed while the community continues to provide input.
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NapaCitizen wrote on Oct 31, 2008 8:08 AM:
Affordable? For whom? Hmmm. I doubt that. Napa economics do not support those that work here being able to afford to live here. More timeshares, second homes, etc.
The fox is merely giving the hens a tour of the slaughterhouse. Try getting past that property now. Think about it Napa, do the math!
You'd think Mr Rogal is running for mayor and holding town hall meetings! Good grief! "
97526 wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:18 AM:
db76 wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:21 AM:
marine1/1 wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:29 AM:
napablogger wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:51 AM:
I appreciate the nostalgia as well, but let's face Napa was not built up for the tourists, it was built up for the people who live here and the tourists and wine industry are the economic base that funded it.
Things change and they have changed way for the better, Napa is a heck of a nicer place than it used to be. It's just not like it was when you were a kid.
If you can find a place that was like it was thirty years ago, it is either dead and has no economy, or never did to begin with. The world changes people. "
nan03 wrote on Oct 31, 2008 10:52 AM:
Paddy wrote on Oct 31, 2008 10:53 AM:
I associate the gentrification of Napa and the infusion of low paying jobs and the need for poverty housing with the Gasser property being deveolped. The Target, McDonalds, Burger King, In and Out, KFC, Raleys, Home/Office Depots box store mentality hit and 5 new traffic signals were added on Soscol leading to Copia. That was the beginning of this . Before all of that it was inconvenient having to drive to Fairfield once in a while but Napa was a wonderfully special place to live and raise a family. That's not the case anymore.
So I don't equate box stores, fast food, smog, traffic and traffic signals, angry motorists, gangs and poor wages with Napa being better now than it was just 10 short years ago.
"Nostalgia"? Is that what they're calling family and small town values now? Those of us who care for such things are desperately trying to swim up stream against a tide of attitudes like yours and Rogals. How much money do you all stand to make on the minimum wages of the masses?
The horrific expense of this Napa Pipe folly far exceeds anything measured in dollars and sense. "
hawkins707 wrote on Oct 31, 2008 11:04 AM:
MichelleG wrote on Oct 31, 2008 11:42 AM:
laughingatthis wrote on Oct 31, 2008 1:56 PM:
cordell wrote on Oct 31, 2008 2:15 PM:
shareathought wrote on Oct 31, 2008 4:29 PM:
Grommitt wrote on Oct 31, 2008 6:57 PM:
14obama wrote on Oct 31, 2008 8:48 PM:
Too much growth too fast ! Let's stop for awhile and think about it.
Another nail in the coffin of "Old Napa". "
14obama wrote on Oct 31, 2008 8:57 PM:
Ephemerol wrote on Oct 31, 2008 9:26 PM:
TheWholeTruth wrote on Nov 1, 2008 3:02 PM:
Napablogger claims if we create 2000 jobs in Napa that people from the bay area will invade us. How many people now living in Napa have to trek daily to the bay area just to earn a living. Do you really think Napan’s don’t need jobs to be able to live here. Are our children going to buy these home to stay close to us if there is no place for them to work?
This line of thought is just $$$$$$ and greed talking. No problem, wine and dine and lie through the mouths of those with money, political and media connections and they will convince you to destroy our last chance at growing good paying jobs that could actually keep our families in this valley.
So sad. "
14obama wrote on Nov 1, 2008 3:27 PM:
toobuff wrote on Dec 24, 2008 12:45 AM: