" Im So Happy 4 of them are in jail and many to go in and to life i mean i homie out and lots of them other Guys go to inn and do life, like they say a homie was thier at the wrong time time at the date same for those 3 car loads of guys that rolled up through laurel thinking they were badass and taking sumone out people need to realize karmas is true what goes around comes around and twice as hard......for all them lil kids thinking gangs are gna take u some where just look at these 4 guys in county jail facing a murder charge not realizing that they will be in the pin forever poor mothers but thank god grumpys mom can have peace to know Dat 4 guys are in for taking her sons life away however the sadest part grumpys daughter will have never had the chance to meet her Daddy "

" THIS IS INFAIR. I DONT KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE CITY OF NAPA, BUT I DO KNOW ONE THING AND THAT IS THAT CHRIS GALLEGOS IS NOT GUILTY. HE IS A GOOD STUDENT, HE WAS ATTENDING THE NAPA COMMMUNITY COLLEGE...AND FOR HIM TO BE IN THIS MESS IS NOT FAIR. AS A YOUNG TEEN MOTHER, I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT I DO UNDERSTAND THE HURT AND PAIN THAT HIS FAMILY IS FEELING, BUT THE ONE THING THAT I COULD NOT AND WILL NOT AGREE WITH IS THE FACT THAT IN THIS ARTICLE IT SAYS THAT RICARDO WAS TRYING TO GOOD. IM SORRY BUT FROM THE MOMENT THAT YOU BECOME A GANSTER YOU KNOW THE RISKS SO STOP MAKING HIM SEEM AS IF HE WAS NOT A TROUBLE MAKER. THIS IS NOT OKAY. THIS IS DISREPECTFUL TO CHRIS GALLEGOS'S FAMILY. HE IS A WONDERFUL PERSON THAT WOULD NOT HURT AN ANT. HOW COULD SOME ONE PUT HIS FACE ON THIS...I AM DISGUESTED W/THE MEDIA. WHAT IF THIS WAS YOUR BOY? NOOO.. IM SURE YOU WOULD NOT WANT HIS FACE ON HERE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PUBLIC HAS THE RIGHT TO SEE THEM,BUT LET ME REMIND U THAT THESE ARE JUST ACCUSATIONS. CHRIS HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN GUILTY. AS A MOTHER,STUDENT, RESIDENT OF NAPA WHO WANTS THIS T0 BE A SAFE INVIORMENT..SAY THAT UNTIL CHRIS IS PROVEN GUILTY.. HE SHOULD NOT BE ON HERE. HOW &^% DISRESPECTFUL. HE IS INOCENT & I CANT WAIT UBTIL HE IS LET FREE.. BECAUSE IT WILL SHOW THE WORLD THAT HE IS A WONDERFUL PERSON. THE PERSON THAT I KNOW. WOW. IM SPCHLESS.... IM MAD AND SAD KNOWING THAT HE IS IN JAIL FOR SOMETHING THAT HE DIDNT EVEN DO. MAYBE YOU GUYS SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT HE IS GUILTY AND THEN ACUSE "

" ok all i can say is i can only imagine the pain and agony his mom and wife can feel right now but however, i dnt believ in the NPD and ESPECIALLY this weak force called gang task! i dnt think they know what they r doing and i think they put on a real good act on acting like they know no body trusts them so of course no one will come forward! they should consider re hiring some one else to do the job! so it duznt surprise me that the NVR helped solve this case! i hope they catch the actual person who did this instead of hear say accusastionz! i think that raymond is an awsome young man and has never been in trouble befor hes a pergfect gentleman and shoud be released! free ray!!!!!!! "

" THALIA JIMENEZ: first let me say...thank you for your passion. He IS innocent until proven guilty by a jury of his peers. I hope you have come forward to the police with proof of his innocence. I agree with your statements regarding the victim

janet707: please tell me it is NOT true that grown men are still responding to their cute little gangbanger nicknames like "Grumpy"...I always felt this was a reflection of their childish mentalities...I am glad they label themselves for us. I also used to love when they walked around with pacifiers! THAT was funny. "

" Our thoughts are with you Danny Ortega..we are praying for you and your family. We believe in you. Stay strong. "

" THALIA JIMENEZ: I agree with your comments about the victim, I also think that if Chris and the other boys they caught had NOTHING, I mean NOTHING to do with this, why are they behind bars?

They know something, and if they do not talk unfortunately this is where they are going to stay. Chris is innocent until proven guilty, but NPD obviously has something linking him and the other suspects to this case. The bottom line here is it's too bad how much suffering this has brought to all the families involved.

1_4eastnapa wrote: "thats my homie" if he is your homie why aren't you bailing him out, or better yet sitting next to him behind bars? (readers, notice his 14 in his user name...) Pathetic! "

" If these three guys are convicted I hope they never will see the outside again. I am tired of gangsters taking over Napa. We need to hire more law enfocement officers so we can have more officer on the task force to fight gang crime. "

" If I'm not mistaking, a previous article stated that Gonzalez was "shot ONCE in the head." This means that only one person pulled the trigger, yet it is also stated that all 4 suspects if convicted will face life in prison? how does that work? One person pulls the trigger and somehow the other three will face the same sentence? There is something wrong with this. Also, these 4 are innocent until proven guilty so Janet707, you cannot be positive that it was these 4 who took Gonzalez' life...and if it was them, they weren't the only ones who thought of themselves as "badasses." "

" Innocent until proven guilty is right. I know Danny Ortega very well and he is not guilty either...... This is so unfair to put him in the middle for somethin that he never did. My last comment was not posted , but yeah I agree with Thalia Jimenez! Ricardo was a trouble maker, so please stop making him sound like he was this great kid turning his life around. I don't think he deserved to die, but he knew what he was doing that night in Laurel St, and it was not turning his life around. Well anyways we love you Danny, stay strong, we all know you will and our prayers and thoughts are with you, ur mom, and your lil brother. We will c you soon! "

" redredwine wrote on Oct 7, 2008 8:10 PM:

" I was just thinking about this story, I have to drive by the crime scene everyday, and I always wondered if there was anything coming up soon, GREAT JOB NPD!!!


I am confused???? You first said great job NPD...then you say they guys they have had nothing to do with it???? "

" If I'm not mistaking, a previous article stated that Gonzalez died of "ONE shot to the head." One person pulled the trigger...and the other three?? So why is it that, again according to the previous article that if found guilty these young men will ALL face the SAME sentence? And Janet707, these young men are innocent until proven otherwise soo why are you so certain that they took Gonzalez's life away? Also, according to Villatoro's December 10, 2007 article this was a " fight between two rival gangs on the 2500 block of Laurel Street, near Avon Street." So, really, if it was these four men, they weren't the only ones thinking they were "badasses." "

" "One person pulled the trigger...and the other three??"

Caringnapan, don't you know it takes 4 gangbangers to gather the "courage" for just one of then to pick up a gun and shoot someone...I think it is a rule or something. "

" i happend to know these 3 guys pretty good like everyone is saying thier supposed to be inocent until proven guilty this article makes it look like thier already gulty it unfortunate to kno that thier going to go down for a murder they didnt commet because thier not going to snitch and thats even if they knoe anything... i hope these boys find great lawyers "

" If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it fall, does it make any noise? I think the same thing is at work with the presence of four gang members required for one to pull a trigger. If you commit a murder and NO ONE IS THERE TO SEE YOU DO IT, does it really count? A killer's prestige increases when there are like-minded witnesses. "

" It soiunds like Ricardo G. was a member of the Surenos from the articles. It appears that Thalia's plea for Chris Gallegos indicates that he's sweet and innocent. I don't know if these 4 are guilty, but they are in serious trouble. Probably for living a life style that leads to prison or death.

A very big part of the problem with gangs is that families and friends coe them into believing they're not quite hardcore and just boys being boys. Somehow they believe being in a gang is little more than being on a soccer team. It's just a game, and apart from a few bruises nobody will get hurt.

Face the music Gonzalez's and Gallegos', gangsters are just that and people die. Often innocent people. And society has to pay the price. If you know family in gangs tell them it's not acceptable and insist they change. Otherwise, they'll either die or end up in jail. "

" amayazmami707, I agree with you and could not have said it better. I too, know Danny Ortega. I just think the NVR is showing they are guilty without even a trial yet...I am praying for them all and for everyone that wants to judge them without knowing they are even guilty. "

" Bloodagar, I agree with you on that, but i still believe that they should all not be viewed as if all four were the killers. It was a gang fight, yes, but someone was the mastermind and the killer. Someone must have taken the lead. There are leaders in gangs or are there not? "

" IM GLAD THEY ARRESTED THESE PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED WITH RICARDO'S MURDER. BUT I STILL THINK THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THEY NEED TO ARREST TOO. THEY ARE STILL OUT THERE THINKIN THEY HARDCORE GANGSTERS. BUT IM ALMOST SURE THESE GUYS THAT THEY ARRESTED ARE GOIN TO CONFESS THE NAMES OF THE OTHER GUYS WHEN THEY GET THEIR NEXT COURT APPEARANCE. "

" Cadence: Well said.

A group of boys.....two groups (gangs)of boys.....went out one evening to have a little fun. Fun for them was for ALL of the to go out and cause bodily harm to other group (gang) . One of the boys got really brave and Shot another. No matter who pulled the trigger they are ALL responsible for the crime. It is the way the law works for broken windows when your buddy says, "Hey dude... bet ya can't throw a rock that far..." And strangely enough for Murder too. They ALL encouraged each other.....from BOTH sides! Every young man/lady that was there that night are responsible for this murder in some way or another. Even the victim himself...unfortunately.
I'd line them ALL up and give them ALL a good spanking...But that is just my opinion. "

" THALIA JIMENEZ wrote:IM SORRY BUT FROM THE MOMENT THAT YOU BECOME A GANSTER YOU KNOW THE RISKS SO STOP MAKING HIM SEEM AS IF HE WAS NOT A TROUBLE MAKER. THIS IS NOT OKAY. THIS IS DISREPECTFUL TO CHRIS GALLEGOS'S FAMILY. HE IS A WONDERFUL PERSON THAT WOULD NOT HURT AN ANT.

ok I understand that when anybody decides to "afiliate" themselves with a gang they are taking risks, but if this is the case then your dear Chris took the risk too and now he's paying. People live double lifes, he could be a Honor Roll Student at home but when he's with his gang "afiliated" friends he could be different. and how is this disrespectful to Chris Family? Chris is not a victim so please don't try to make him seem like a good kid who didn't do anything wrong..Irregardles he was involved in criminal (yes I said criminal) activity. He obviously knows something and maybe he's not saying? I hope they all pay for the life they took. "

" Valleykitten: Please read carefully, I never wrote "they had nothing to do with it" Yes I did say great job NPD, and what I said to THALIA JIMENEZ is, IF they had NOTHING to do with it WHY are they behind bars? NPD has something on them, maybe they did not pull the trigger but sounds like they were there, they just need to be truthfull, THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE... "

" As most people I started my day opening up the news paper with a cup of coffee. To my dismay right there on the front page was a picture of a boy, a boy I have known for ten years. He was a boy just like any other boy. Loved to ride bikes, involved in little league, other sport activities. He was and is still very polite and always willing to lend a hand. So if you can picture this child it must be hard for you in your mind to picture a murderer as it is for me. I feel physically sick from this. When I picture a murderer I picture a crazy looking mean and evil person. Not a sweet young boy. What went wrong? When did he decide to make these bad choices? I noticed him hanging around with some kids that did not look like very nice kids, but I had hoped it was just “a phase”. We as a community have got to reach these kids before these horrible things happen. How can we do this?? I have no idea, but we have got to figure out a better way. Maybe it was my fault for not approaching him or his family when I noticed this. Perhaps this could have made a difference. This should be a lesson to all kids: 5 people lost their lives from one night, one bad choice, one split moment in time. One family grieves from the death of their son, the other families will grieve for the death of their sons lives. They will never marry, never have children of their own all because one group of kids is from the south and one is from the north??? How can we even thing this makes any sense? "

" Thank you valleykitten.We are all trying to be strong and truly believe in our hearts that he is innocent and did not do this crime.There are two sides to a story and Our cousin has a great heart and wouldn't dare hurt anyone they way he is accused of. I love him dearly and am praying for him and our family!!


ValleyKitten wrote on Oct 8, 2008 5:43 PM:

" Our thoughts are with you Danny Ortega..we are praying for you and your family. We believe in you. Stay strong. " "

" ThaLiia U HAVE N0 RIGHT T0 SAY THAT GANGMEMBERS DESRVE WHAT THEY GET. BECAUSE IF WAS LIKE THAT THEN CHRIS DESERVES WHAT HE GOT ALS0. BECAUSE WHAT I RECALL HE WAS A KN0WN GANGMEMBER TO. S0 WAT HE GOES TO COLLEGE. THAT DOESNT CHANGE THE FACT THAT HE WAS THERE THAT DAY AND THAT HE WASNT INTO GANGS BEFORE. RICARD0 DIDNT DESERVE THIS I PERSONALLY KNOW HW WAS A GREAT MAN AND HE WAS TRYING TO CHANGE HIS WAYS. "

" janet707
Wow, my eyes hurt. What the heck are you trying to say? Something about pouring a 40 over your homies grave?

NVR - Seriously...How did that blog get posted? "

" ddrem wrote on Oct 9, 2008 11:18 AM:

" Thank you valleykitten.We are all trying to be strong and truly believe in our hearts that he is innocent and did not do this crime.There are two sides to a story and Our cousin has a great heart and wouldn't dare hurt anyone they way he is accused of. I love him dearly and am praying for him and our family!!

I have known Danny for at least five years, he is good friends with my son, my son is older and as always tried to be there for Danny and his brother. He has spent time at my house and gone to 49er games with us. I think he is a great kid..I can not imagine he is guilty...And just for the record for people that want to judge , my son is not in a gang..he is just a caring person, who befriended Danny and cares a great deal for him, as do I....again we are praying for him and his family...and remember people innocent until proven guilty...get off your soap boxes and stop judging...you do not even know him or the situation...Blessings to all. And much love to Danny. "

" This is so sad..I don't know these boys but I have been around enough to know that these kids will not talk .Either out of loyalty to their friends or out of fear of retalition. Either way they are really in for a rough time, even if they are not gulity themselves of the crime . They look so young and now their life is in the balance .. Just remember the other gang member's blood runs red too and their Mom's tears are just as salty as yours. Please stop and think.. if you need help getting out of a gang , please talk to SOMEONE ..It is your life , what are you going to do about it? "

" I never knew grumpy nd its wrong that his life was taken away over gangs it doesnt make it right for anyone to lose their life over it. but when you get into something like that your putting yourself as a target. yea the person who acctually killed grumpy deserves to get their life sentence in prison and pretty much get their life taken away just like grumpy did. i dont think that its fair that the people who were there to be facing possibly life in prison i think it would be fair if they did a lot of time in jail but not life in prison. ive known ray for years and i know that he would never kill any one. yea he might be around all that gang stuff to fit in with his friends but why should his life be taken away for somebody elses doing?? im not saying he shouldnt do any time because i think he should but not in prison. im sorry for the friends and family who lost him. .but why take away someones life when their not the one who pulled the trigger?? "

" Some of you people just don't get it. You don't have to actually be the one pulling the trigger to be punished. If you're encouraging others to get revenge, to pull the trigger, then you're a contributing party to the crime. The punishment will undoubtedly be less than the person who actually pulled the trigger "probably", but you played a role nevertheless. And that depends on the mental capacity of the person who pulled the trigger. The jury will ask the question "well if there hadn't been five people standing around the guy who pulled the trigger shouting "kill him" would the trigger have been pulled"? The jury WILL play with that question.

Remember the case of Charles Manson who never actually killed anyone but encouraged others to do so? He is spending the rest of his life in prison because of it. Don't think it can't happen to you. Let this be a lesson to all of those who run to the scene of gang violence and play any participatory role. If you say even one word or make one gesture toward promoting violence against another person, you could spend the rest of your life behind bars. If that's the quality of life you seek, then be my guest. Be prepared to pay the consequences. See if I care. I consider it natural selection and I do not mind you being behind bars the rest of your life. "

" chris gallegos is not a known gang member who ever thinks that is crazy. this paper makes it seem like ricardo gonzalez wasnt a gang member wich he was dont get me wrong no one deserves to be shot and killed but he wasnt as innocent as the make him seem hes known a s grumpy wich is a gang tag name.. and i agree with thalia when a gang member joins a gang he knows what hes getting in to... i have known danny for ever and ray for a few years like i said before i hope they prove thier innocence. "

" Guilty or not.
Have some faith in our judicial system.
It may not be perfect but, It is a helluva lot better than say Mexico or most other countries where bribery and corruption decides your fate.
BTW,
!LiVe!LaUgH!LuV!, janet707, amayazmami707,
Please, Please, get some spelling lessons or at least use "spell check"
Your comments may be taken more seriously if your words were spelled correctly!
Or, is the "Gangsta Grammer" ? "

" DAM u wud think that they wud get a haircut 2 look pretty 4 tha judge..lol..FREE RAYMOND!!!!


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