School translation plan is unequal
Dear editor,
A couple of weeks ago there was a front page article about report card systems being bilingual (“School district going digital,” Sept. 16). It will convert English to Spanish online, supposedly to help the non-English-speaking parents see how their kids are doing in school. It will cost $2,500 for each school in the Napa school district. My problem with this is it does not convert English to Italian, German, French or any other language. What happened to equality for all? What happened to the English-only language for America? This is the United States of America and our forefathers learned English before, or very shortly after, coming here. The giant melting pot we are all supposed to jump into when coming from another country is broken! Spend money to teach our kids what older Americans learned in school and quit catering to non-conformers. This is just my view but I am sure many will agree with me.
Dennis Korte
Napa
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kbf wrote on Oct 7, 2008 6:19 AM:
winemd wrote on Oct 7, 2008 8:18 AM:
But why would you NOT want non-English speaking parents to know how their kids are doing in school? Sure we could get a program that translates to other languages, but how many families would that impact? "
Common Sense wrote on Oct 7, 2008 9:04 AM:
Dwayne wrote on Oct 7, 2008 9:13 AM:
The ESL kids are dragging down all students in their classes because parents won't assimilate as fluent English speakers...
Catering to them in Spanish is simply enabling their language disability... The tail is wagging the dog at NVUSD...
Don't get me started on the three-week holiday break at Christmas either...
Call the NVUSD... "Press two for English." "
amigo wrote on Oct 7, 2008 9:34 AM:
pharper wrote on Oct 7, 2008 10:00 AM:
I know a lot of Hispanic people who, even though they speak or are learning English, cannot read it or have not yet learned it. You can't expect parents who haven't learned English yet to teach their children English or to speak to them in English; it's not realistic. Assuming that this is catering to a group of people who "refuse to learn English" IS racist. I'm sorry, I know I'll get flak for saying that, but let's face it--this person is assuming that since this program is translatable into Spanish, the school district is "catering" to the Hispanic population, and somehow "allowing" them to not learn English.
If we're mandating that everyone learn the "native" language of a place in order to live there, then our forefathers should have focused on learning the Native American tongues. Our forefathers didn't "learn to speak English" before coming to America. Some of them (not all) already spoke it. There IS NO OFFICIAL LANGUAGE. That's the beauty of America. There's no official language, race, or religion. Everyone is free to speak whatever language they choose and to practice whatever religion they choose. The country does not "belong" to people who speak English or who look Anglo-Saxon, and it never did. The term "melting pot" does not mean that everyone has to assimilate into the same language, religion, and way of life. It means diversity. "
musikluvr wrote on Oct 7, 2008 11:29 AM:
a teacher wrote on Oct 7, 2008 11:35 AM:
Eyes on the prize, guys. We want better performance from our students. "
funnyme wrote on Oct 7, 2008 1:17 PM:
kbf wrote on Oct 7, 2008 1:31 PM:
a teacher wrote on Oct 7, 2008 2:02 PM:
kbf: That may be true, but as immigrants learned in the late 19th and early 20th century, the path to success is through English. You're just repeating the anti-immigrant lines of that time. "
winemd wrote on Oct 7, 2008 2:05 PM:
justnana wrote on Oct 7, 2008 7:58 PM:
drtymick75 wrote on Oct 7, 2008 8:10 PM:
vocal-de-local wrote on Oct 9, 2008 10:37 AM:
On the other hand, I then read a book called "Dumbing Us Down" which offered contrary views. Basically it suggested that we encourage programs which allow us to think outside the box.
How can we both think outside the box and maintain a single cultural identity which is strong enough to hold the social fabric together? We do not want robots but we can't have separate boxes distributed all over the place without a common thread either.
Right now what I see are boxes filled with eubonics and other invented cultural identities. Another invented cultural identity is emerging which is very apparent when reading the NVR gang threads. Young people are PURPOSELY using language inappropriately. It's almost as though it's not cool to speak straight English anymore. An intentional weakening of the language thread is occurring and it's very transparent; not hidden away on some backstreet.
The necessity of requiring ONE strong use of language is important otherwise the strings which connect all of those separate boxes is weakened.
Learning another language is GOOD for the brain btw. My point is not to discourage speaking second languages. It's just that we need to enforce the proper use of ONE language so that we all have at least some common ground among us.
Think about this: when you hear people speaking another language do you feel distanced from them on some level? "