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Homeless advocates ask Expo for a place to sleep
Monday, October 06, 2008
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Homeless advocates are again looking for a temporary location for a winter shelter, with Napa Valley Exposition a possible site.

Time is running short, said Charlene Horton, program director of the Napa Valley Shelter Project. A shelter is needed by mid-November when rain and cold weather are likely, but leads on a new location are few, she said.
  Oct. 28, Jim Featherstone, assistant director of Napa County Health and Human Services, will ask the Expo’s board of directors to use one of their buildings from mid-November to mid-April.

The county has been turned down twice before by the Expo. Fair officials previously cited opposition from a charter school that rented space at the fairgrounds and concerns about bingo players who come and go at night.
The charter school has since left the fairgrounds, reducing the possibility of conflict with shelter users, Horton said.

A winter shelter is needed for some 30 to 50 people who otherwise would be living out of doors during bitter weather, Featherstone said.
Featherstone said he doesn’t sugarcoat the characteristics of winter shelter users. Most are comfortable with a homeless lifestyle and use drugs and alcohol, he said.

That said, the winter shelter has caused few law enforcement problems wherever it has operated, Featherstone said. No drugs or alcohol are allowed in the shelter. Anyone causing trouble is removed, he said.

The winter shelter started about 10 years ago, operating at First Presbyterian Church and First United Methodist Church before moving to an empty fire station on Jefferson, then for the past five years to Napa State.

The state hospital plans to remodel the shelter building for its own uses, resulting in the need for a new location, Featherstone said.

After five months of looking for a new site, Featherstone said the Expo appears to be the county’s best hope.

Most landlords don’t want to rent to an operation that will be gone in five months, Horton said. Serving the homeless also causes concern, she said.

“People get frightened when they hear that homeless people are going to be living near them,” Horton said.

Virtually any building with bathrooms would work, Featherstone said. A warehouse could be quickly adapted for shelter use. Showers and kitchens aren’t necessary, he said.

Joe Anderson, the Expo’s CEO, said he had taken no position on the winter shelter request. “I need more details before I make a judgment on it,” he said.

Two of the fair board’s nine members were serving in 2000 when the board rejected a lease. At that time, board president Don Carr voted against leasing, saying that a shelter was incompatible with other fair operations.

Director Myrna Abramowicz voted to rent to the winter shelter, saying, “If we don’t serve the community to the lowest common denominator then we’re not doing our job.”

While waiting to make his pitch to fair directors on Oct. 28, Featherstone continues to look for other locations. “I’m hoping that necessity is the mother of invention,” he said.

The Napa Valley Shelter Project, which is part of Community Action Napa Valley, oversees a shelter for adults behind South Napa Marketplace and a shelter for families on Old Sonoma Road.

Those shelters are full in the winter and do not take people who are under the influence.
28 comment(s)

nwnapan wrote on Oct 6, 2008 6:31 AM:

" How about one of the empty store fronts on 1st Street? "

Exasperated wrote on Oct 6, 2008 7:22 AM:

" This is a terrible idea; not only are there bingo players coming and going, but lots of events happen at the fairgrounds over the winter. Find somewhere else to put them. I really don't want to encounter a hobo while attending a craft fair. "

Dwayne wrote on Oct 6, 2008 8:12 AM:

" Under the influence aside, many of the homeless are mentally challenged, and nobody wants to have to confront that on a daily basis... "

napanana wrote on Oct 6, 2008 9:18 AM:

" Wow...it is so very important for these underpriveledged people to have a warm dry place to sleep for the winter.....but I have to agree that the Expo isn't a good choice....for all of the above reasons mentioned.
Why not one of the empty stores on First St.? Some of these empty stores want to rent on a month to month basis and the county needs a shelter for 5 months.
It may be too easy a solution though.... "

Yvonne wrote on Oct 6, 2008 9:22 AM:

" How about Mervyns when they get it cleared out? Or the bright orange building on Soscol that the Lady of America gym had to move out of? No one wants a homeless shelter in thier neighbor hood, but it is a fact that there are homeless people out there that need a place to sleep out of the weather. I thank God every day that I have a job and a warm home to go to, I have known people who didn't have either. On the other side of that coin I have worked at a location that was very close to a winter shelter, and it was not pretty. At 6am when the shelter kicks them out for the day we were over run with homeless people. I don't know as a society what we can do to solve this issue. "

BigRod wrote on Oct 6, 2008 10:31 AM:

" We need a Winter Shelter for the homeless - We must find a place for them to get out of the cold !! Do you know last year about 43 of the clients got housed because of the Winter shelter being open during the hard times . Its a start for them to move on over to South Napa Shelter I can go on an on about the good - not all of them are on drugs -there just in a bad place in there lives i no i've been there done that ! And you would not believe how i turn out !!!!!!!! "

mofosheee wrote on Oct 6, 2008 10:35 AM:

" And for that matter, have these shelters in your neighborhood "

musikluvr wrote on Oct 6, 2008 11:09 AM:

" We have plenty of farm worker housing that is not occupied during the winter and it is located away from neighborhoods. "

irishrover94503 wrote on Oct 6, 2008 12:24 PM:

" Many of you certainly have legitimate and emotional concerns about the location as to where to house the emergency winter shelter. Having been a recipient of its services, I know the difficulties BOTH sides of the population have of this. No one wants IT (a shelter or any help for the homeless) in their neighborhood. That certainly has been made clear by those opposed to the Hope Center and the services it provides. Yet others, who are showing humane compassion and understanding, agree there has to be a place to house those, not only not qualified to enter South Napa, but singles, families, and others in need of assistance. Folks, there is no easy answer to this. The common denominator is that those who are in need of the services need to be somewhere close to where they can access the necessary services to rehabilitate themselves. I know several in Napa, and the county, just want all of the homeless to disappear. That “ideal scenario” is not going to happen, no matter how much you look the other way. Given the economic downturn - face facts here RECESSION - we're in right now, the numbers of homeless may likely increase over the coming months. Remember, not every homeless person is a bum, degenerate, drug user, alcoholic, or vagrant. Not every homeless person is “visible.” Consider the “couch surfer,” the families in cars and RVs, etc? Stereotyping the homeless is just a waste of efforts by those who a blind to the fact that it exists. The bottom line, as Ms. Horton and Mr. Featherstone points out, is that time IS running out. We need to find an acceptable space offering basic needs. Remember, it could be you one day. "

xmrs09 wrote on Oct 6, 2008 12:43 PM:

" Well, we civilized citizens of Napa certainly don't want to have to come into contact with those mentally-challenged, down-and-out evil homeless people. I say we round them all up and send them to concentration camps in the middle of the desert so we can all go on with our happy little isolationist lifestyles. "

xmrs09 wrote on Oct 6, 2008 12:44 PM:

" Oh, and just remember, most of us are only one or two paychecks away from homelessness ourselves. "

1_4eastnapa wrote on Oct 6, 2008 1:04 PM:

" if i was homeless i would just commit a crime to throw me in jail. they provide everything 4 you, showers, three meals a day, and a nice warm cell w/ blankets and
recycled clothes. "

Dwayne wrote on Oct 6, 2008 1:08 PM:

" When the homeless find a place to get out of the weather, it usually has no heat or lights, and eventually gets burned down...

If you really feed bad for them invite them into your home.... "

wrongsideofthetrax wrote on Oct 6, 2008 1:31 PM:

" omgosh, 1_4eastnapa! plz don't spread it around as this is one of my retirement plan options so I don't want all the spaces gone. 3 hots & a cot sound pretty good to me... "

Trailblazer wrote on Oct 6, 2008 1:59 PM:

" Over the past 6 yrs, I have seen the same people in front of the (triangle) waiting for lunch from the Salvation Army. These same people go to the shelters, and I have seen some pretty remarkable things go on at 11:45 am in the middle of the day, smoking pot right out there on the grass, drinking, a couple on a blanket, with there two dogs making out. Meanwhile waiting for the shelter to open, what a life style. And now you want this at the fair grounds, that will really encourage people to rent the halls there. I can think of two fundraisers I have invites to in Jan, and March, both happen to be for pre-schools. I encourage the fair board to really think this through before voting on it. It will definitely have a impact on the events that the fairgrounds may host. Does Napa, not have a homless shelter over behind Target? And where do these people sleep the other seven months out of the year? "

steph wrote on Oct 6, 2008 2:57 PM:

" Sorry, but when people act in an uncivilized manner, they'll have to accept the idea that those of us who are responsible and civilized don't want them around to threaten, harass, or intimidate us, or defecate/urinate in places they shouldn't or leave trash wherever they feel they should.

That said, not all homeless people act in this way, and so you won't find many people who object to those civilized homeless who need help in the middle of civilized society.

Why does common sense need to be spelled out?

We can certainly argue that our mental health system is pathetic. That much is true. But the topic at hand is where do we put the habitual homeless who cannot, it seems, behave themselves and act like decent human beings. Sorry if people don't want them around, but that's the consequence of their own actions. And their rights/needs/concerns don't outweigh everyone else's. Perhaps if we coddled them a bit less and made homelessness a bit less comfortable, they'd find the motivation a bit more quickly to change their habits. A better mental health system would go a long way, as well. "

steph wrote on Oct 6, 2008 2:58 PM:

" I think a good place for a homeless shelter is on the grounds of the Napa State Hospital. "

grapetownkid wrote on Oct 6, 2008 3:41 PM:

" OH MY GOSH... here we go now with the homeless and people acting like they care about them...who cares about the homeless! because i don't! they became the way they are for a reason...so why should anyone provide for them if immigrants can get a job well then so can they! ...instead of giving homeless money give them an application or send them to Wal-mart or Target I'm sure they'll give them a job there, pushing carts or something....its time to wake up Napa and ship the homeless to San Francisco...or think about it, do you really want Napa to smell the same way as the city???...i bet not huh...its all because of homeless...and plus i have a job and sometimes I'm still broke but guess what I'm not going to give up and become homeless. tell them to stop being lazy and get a job!! "

tiredofcomplainingnapkins wrote on Oct 6, 2008 7:38 PM:

" HOw bout they get a job and get a home, otherwise if you want to be homeless dont be asking for a free place to stay "

antipc wrote on Oct 6, 2008 8:04 PM:

" I'm all for helping those that help, or at least try to help themselves. But this homeless thing is getting out of hand. Letting a person go hungry when in need is inhuman, but spending on money substance abusers that work the system is a never ending cycle. Separate the needy from the takers & I will be happy to help &/or donate. "

misfit wrote on Oct 6, 2008 8:51 PM:

" grapetownkid....Yer kidden...right??? "

ValleyKitten wrote on Oct 6, 2008 9:13 PM:

" Yvonne, only problem with the orange building on soscol is the Desimone's are asking $32,000 a month. And besides that social security also occupies that building. This is why LOA is no longer there..I really could not see the Desimone's letting the homeless occupy the space, they couldn't even let a business stay there without raising the rents. "

grapetownkid wrote on Oct 6, 2008 9:38 PM:

" misfit..........NO I'M NOT!....IF YOU REALLY CARE BOUT THE HOMELESS THEN WHEN THE RAINY,COLD SEASON COMES AROUND INVITE THEM "HOMELESS" OVER TO UR HOUSE.........YOU PEOPLE ACT LIKE YOU CARE, BUT THEN AGAIN YA'LL DON'T WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, RIGHT......? "

verum wrote on Oct 6, 2008 10:04 PM:

" Mercy, Trailblazer! "...two dogs making out." Do we need Animal Control here, or English 101?! "

pbsm777 wrote on Oct 6, 2008 11:03 PM:

" gtownkid- you can take off the caps lock. Nobody's yelling at you. Make your point and relax. Free discussion here about a very real problem.

There are certainly people that take advantage of the system, no one is disputing that. But there are also people that are on the streets through no fault of their own via mental illness and were turned out from the mental healthcare system due to a host of reasons that everyone is to blame for in one way or another on the government side regardless of party.

Cut off the system abusers and the savings would go towards the folks who legitimately need it.

My thoughts. No yelling.... "

comment wrote on Oct 7, 2008 12:29 AM:

" Wow! Have some compassion people. "I really don't want to encounter a hobo while attending a craft fair. " "many of the homeless are mentally challenged, and nobody wants to have to confront that on a daily basis... "

I want to know where I can purchase some of those rose colored glasses. Maybe if we just pretend there is no such thing as a homeless person, they'll all just go away.

I've never been homeless, but I can imagine how tough it would be to be in that situation. Sure, there are some bad homeless people out there who refuse to get their life back on track, but there are also many people who are going through some tough times and have no where else to turn. I would like to see some of you spend a week out on the streets. We'll see how you feel about the homeless then. "

napafree wrote on Oct 7, 2008 4:02 PM:

" You all need to get on your knees and thank God that you aren't one of the homeless. Shame on you for worrying about whether or not you might have to come into contact with one of "them". You better realize that the only thing keeping you from being on the streets in this economy is ONE paycheck. "

smogone77 wrote on Oct 20, 2008 6:29 PM:

" NapaFree-
I do thank God, but i also work very hard long hours for everything i have. For that i can thank myself. I empathize with those unfortunate people who have mental illnesses and cannot manage, but many of the younger homeless dont give a rats butt about our society and choose not to be a part of it. They are drug users and shun the fact that we work for a living. I have no sympathy for them. If you are cold and homeless, get a job! "

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