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What did you think of the VP debate?
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CommentHow did vice-presidential debate go? Who won, who lost, who stumbled and who shined?
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Madison Jay Hamilton wrote on Oct 2, 2008 7:54 PM:
marikavl wrote on Oct 2, 2008 8:04 PM:
Gov Palen was GREAT!!!!.But I guess it is hard to admitt "
MarkMiwords wrote on Oct 2, 2008 8:11 PM:
ladyinchargetx wrote on Oct 2, 2008 8:14 PM:
Hear Ye wrote on Oct 2, 2008 8:16 PM:
just me wrote on Oct 2, 2008 8:20 PM:
newnapan wrote on Oct 2, 2008 8:22 PM:
bettye wrote on Oct 2, 2008 8:37 PM:
NVGal wrote on Oct 2, 2008 8:39 PM:
It is no news that Biden is more experienced, and he gave a strong performance. If you were looking for Palin to fall on her face, you would be very disappointed.
My question after the debate is why is Joe Biden the VP pick? It was clear to me tonight that he is a better choice than Obama... "
cab e-girl wrote on Oct 2, 2008 8:43 PM:
napagirl63 wrote on Oct 2, 2008 8:48 PM:
napagirl63 wrote on Oct 2, 2008 8:52 PM:
comment wrote on Oct 2, 2008 8:55 PM:
Madison Jay Hamilton wrote on Oct 2, 2008 8:58 PM:
kevin wrote on Oct 2, 2008 9:02 PM:
cab e-girl wrote on Oct 2, 2008 9:06 PM:
Lsusz wrote on Oct 2, 2008 9:07 PM:
zacharyroyce wrote on Oct 2, 2008 9:08 PM:
estadounidense wrote on Oct 2, 2008 9:10 PM:
pbsm777 wrote on Oct 2, 2008 9:25 PM:
Now she's a Maverick just like McCain.. I guess you are a Maverick if you believe that an abortion is NOT an option if you are RAPED or a victim of INCEST. You also made rape victims PAY for their sexual assault hospital rape tests in Alaska. FACT.
That's a Maverick you got me there~!
Expand the role of the vice president as far as powers go? Hello US Constititution Article 1. What is the Republicans goal for the role of LESS government? VP Cheney with Lipstick?
What's up with winking at the audience? I guess that's cute. Way to establsih substance Repubs. Wink Wink?
Must be Clinton's fault, wait it's the mainstream media fault - Rupert Murdoch (Foreign Owner) controls Tv stations (Fox, Newspapers, and Radio Stations) and they still say they don't have a voice. They are whiners and hypocrites. Still can't get over Clinton 8 years later, that just proves you're a failure because you can't get past 8 years of control in the White House, 10 out of 12 years of the Congress but Republicans are VICTIMS of the Clinton White House,....
Wait, no it's Obama's fault, no wait, it's Biden's fault, no wait Nancy Pelosi used mean words.
McCain in Michigan...Oh wait - in Republican words - He Cut and Ran.
Must be Obama's fault. This time I AGREE! "
TrickleDown wrote on Oct 2, 2008 9:27 PM:
No, she didn't fall on her face and it will be interesting to see if her folksy-isms resonate with undecideds. To argue that she won the debate is laughable, however. At best she didn't add much more to the nosedive of a presidential run that McCain has put together of late. Today he pulled out of Michigan, so things aren't looking so hot.
I hope and pray that what happens is that the McCain team is encouraged by her performance and send her out to give more interviews. The Couric interview is the gift that keeps on giving, and I would love to see her questioned some more. "
LMW wrote on Oct 2, 2008 9:28 PM:
Master Chief wrote on Oct 2, 2008 9:31 PM:
Hear Ye wrote on Oct 2, 2008 9:45 PM:
Madison Jay Hamilton wrote on Oct 2, 2008 9:50 PM:
notshocked wrote on Oct 2, 2008 10:02 PM:
pbsm777... absolutely agree on the winking. A little like short skirts among world leaders who have trouble interacting with women. She's got a LOT to learn. Her handlers must have very very little control and/or she seems very very sheltered. "
Paddy wrote on Oct 2, 2008 10:04 PM:
reader wrote on Oct 2, 2008 10:09 PM:
On the issues? Palin had no substance. She did not give specific examples of what McCain will do. She relied on Regan quotes and other examples of retoric.
Sorry, repubs., that is what I saw. "
injoy wrote on Oct 2, 2008 10:22 PM:
We bet
Gwen Ifill will be played by Kenan Thompson on Saturday Night Live this weekend. "
mamyt wrote on Oct 2, 2008 10:31 PM:
Do the people out there that consider themselves "joe six pack" really want a president who is their equal? I agree with the poster above the debate was a spectacle of pandering to the lowest common denominator. However GW did manage to win a second term so maybe there is a science behind the strategy. "
Sandra wrote on Oct 2, 2008 10:32 PM:
Palin certainly held her own. In fact she came off more likeable, very articulate, and more accessable....and she was ceratinly right in saying she was not part of D.C. politics, and was right to point out Bidens change in opinion and actions from what he had done before.
She was inspiring when talking about personal responsibility, and how we needed to take charge and stop the corruption in Washington. Go Palin!
I am also struck by the petty, bitter remarks coming from those who do not like her. Keep it up...if that's all ya got she can take it and still shine through. The wink was for her parents...I guess you all must not have parents you love? You think it was wrong of her to acknowledge them? It was unprofessional? Give me a break. Get off your high horses and join the rest of the world.
I had to chuckle at an earlier post, where someone said Biden was a better candidate than Obama...I agree. "
MarkMiwords wrote on Oct 2, 2008 10:32 PM:
Napagrrl wrote on Oct 2, 2008 10:35 PM:
Madison Jay Hamilton wrote on Oct 2, 2008 10:42 PM:
MarkMiwords wrote on Oct 2, 2008 10:55 PM:
Sandra wrote on Oct 2, 2008 10:59 PM:
hawkins707 wrote on Oct 2, 2008 11:06 PM:
Biden looks like a used car salesman who isn't being totally honest whenever he turns on that smile. "
yamamama wrote on Oct 2, 2008 11:17 PM:
Hear Ye wrote on Oct 2, 2008 11:17 PM:
anticommie wrote on Oct 2, 2008 11:50 PM:
vocal-de-local wrote on Oct 2, 2008 11:57 PM:
Palin reminded me a little too much of someone who was doing a speech for a PTA fundraiser. She does appear likable, but not particularly knowledgeable. I'm not sure we would be taken seriously on the world stage with McCain/Palin. "
pbsm777 wrote on Oct 2, 2008 11:59 PM:
The Hardest economically hit state in the country and McCain just gave up on them. See Ya.
I guess you'll just have to pull yourself up by your own boot straps. We just gave all the money to Wall Street. Don't worry, it will trickle down.... "
comment wrote on Oct 3, 2008 12:01 AM:
If Palin represents people like me then I must be much dumber than I realized. "
myword wrote on Oct 3, 2008 12:42 AM:
vanappan wrote on Oct 3, 2008 6:13 AM:
She was warm, fresh, funny, confident, energetic, personable, relentless, and on message. She roasted Obama’s flip-flops on the surge and tea-with-dictators declarations, dinged Biden’s bash-Bush rhetoric, challenged the blame-America defeatism of the Left, and exuded the sunny optimism that energized the base in the first place.
She showed what a hachet job Gibson and Kadie did one her with the cut and paste interviews we all know they’re trying to win the election for the Obama
She beat a man who has spent his entire adult life on the political stage, run for president twice, had chaired the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Sarah Palin looked presidential.
Joe Biden looked old and tired. "
Hear Ye wrote on Oct 3, 2008 7:09 AM:
*"Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin exceeded the low expectations for her performance in the vice presidential debate. She did not, however, demonstrate the depth on domestic or foreign matters that Americans should want and expect from someone who would be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
Delaware Sen. Joe Biden clearly outperformed her by more frequently addressing the questions that were asked and demonstrating a mastery of the issues that will confront the administration that takes office in January 2009.
Palin signaled early on that she would approach the debate on her own terms. She said she would "talk straight to the American people" instead of answering questions in a way desired by moderator Gwen Ifill or opponent Biden. In other words, she would duck the questions she did not like.
And duck she did, repeatedly. ...Palin exuded a folksy charm - offering a "shout-out" to third-graders watching the debate for extra credit and scolding Biden with a "say it ain't so, Joe" for his repeated shots at President Bush's policies - but she was no match for Biden on substance. One of the most dramatic examples was when the subject turned to the Middle East, and viewers could contrast her "I love Israel" talking point with Biden's textured and detailed analysis of the dynamics of the region and what is required to defend Israel's interest.
As striking as the contrast was, it was telling that Biden - unlike McCain, in his debate with Barack Obama - never felt compelled to deride his debate opponent as inexperienced or naive or reckless.
It wasn't necessary. Americans could see the difference for themselves." * "
bloodagar wrote on Oct 3, 2008 7:24 AM:
Both of them were great, both of them tried spinning senate votes...ugh. I like all the candidates...I'd like to hear more from their constituents.
Vote check is needed in this article!
Napagrrl:
I cringed as well when she said "Nucular" rather than "Nuclear". Please tell me it is an accent thing rather than poor pronunciation! "
Sandra wrote on Oct 3, 2008 8:15 AM:
The man she ran against in the race for govenor, and defeated, was singing her praises last night. He said he realiized just how wrong he was about her. During the govenor's race he said many of the same things people are saying about her right now.
He said, " I was wrong. She was a great govenor, and will make a great vicepresident." "
boonedoc wrote on Oct 3, 2008 11:23 AM:
The one thing I really admire about a lot of the voters that are currently leaning towards Obama is that they didn't all start out that way. Some had to overcome Clinton's defeat, and those folks didn't automatically move over the Obama camp. In fact, I would guess that a large majority of those folks initally leaned more toward McCain than they did Obama but made the effort to do their homework to conclude that in the end, Obama was the better choice.
I don't get that same sense of open mindedness from the McCain supporters. It appears that they are hell bent on electing him simply because he is a Republican, not necessarily because they support, or even understand his position on the issues that are plaguing this country. How can any intelligent person stand up and say that Palin would make an effective VP? While I think she is a fresh, colorful and animated individual who survived the debate, there is no other basis in which to support her for VP. My 15 year old daughter is also all of those things (except a debate survivor) but that does not qualify her to be our VP. There is a need and a place for politicians like Palin, but not as our VP.....at least not now. "
steph wrote on Oct 4, 2008 11:19 AM:
However, as I have concerns about Palin's experience in foreign policy, I wonder if it's fair to say that, if she were president, and she were faced with a challenge in the world arena, she would have the intelligence to weigh all options before doing the right thing? Does she need to have been a lawyer/Senator in order to lead the country?
I'd like someone smart at the helm, someone with common sense and savvy, someone with good advisors who have kept track of history and current events, and top secrets, and someone who can finesse all of this. I'm not sure that it has to be a career Washington politician. I'm not sure I DO trust Biden any more than I trust Palin.
Dang it! Where's our Margaret Thatcher? "
vinetuned wrote on Oct 4, 2008 12:37 PM:
It is obvious from so many legitimate polls and from those understanding the issues that she did not, could not, answer many questions. Her arrogance is quite astounding but as expected.
The cutesy winking got old and so did the word "Maverick". Those techniques did not answer anything.
I was a Republican who made an educated decision to vote Democrat. McCain and the Republican party were way off base choosing Palin. A person whose values are so extreme, her own family can't adhere to them. A person who has NO experience in finance or economics. A person who could make you wish that the Bush/Cheney team was back in office. And THAT is a scary thought. "
jeannie wrote on Oct 5, 2008 7:49 AM:
rage against wrote on Oct 5, 2008 8:48 AM:
It's nice to see that the lying, manipulating, ignorant Republican political agenda is now visible to the majority of the population, and most definitely the blogshpere. A bit late, but right on time nonetheless.
Apart from Sarah Palin's completely sideshow, Jerry Springer-esque colloquialsims, it was interesting to see how far she was distancing herself from Bush, and maybe a precursor to distancing herself from McCain. After the parrallels between her policies, Mccain's policies, and Bush's policies were drawn, the mantra became, "Let's forget about the past".
Afterall, those who are ignorant of the past are doomed to repeat it, and that is the outcome the corporate ruled, war-mongering Republican power-base surely wants.
Does it interest anyone how quickly Bush has disappeared from the public eye, and how quickly almost every major media outlet is labeling him a villain? Almost as if things were scripted towards this conclusion of his administration. The little voice inside my head keeps chattering about how dramatic this all seems
Hope all you Napans are ready for four years of Obama/Biden!
Go Dodgers! "
anewcommenter wrote on Oct 6, 2008 8:56 AM:
bettye wrote on Oct 6, 2008 12:12 PM:
anewcommenter wrote on Oct 6, 2008 4:43 PM:
Well with no context behind your comment all it tells you is they like Bush better than Mccain. Personally I don't care for either one of them, but your off subject since teh title of the thread is who do you think won the VP Debate? Could you please tell us what you though if you saw or heard the debate and give some substantive reasons behind your answer. There was a poll done which showed Sentaor Biden connected more intellectually with the audience because he spoke on an 8th grade level compared to Governor who spoke at above a 9th grade level. The audience usually listening they say reads news at an average 6th grade level. So since he was slightly less articulate that was said to be his advantage. "
bettye wrote on Oct 6, 2008 10:26 PM:
Sandra wrote on Oct 8, 2008 7:36 AM:
Well, my reaction to this is that the things you are criticizing her for fall into the "Lame Critcism" catagory. Her smile irks you? Acted like Biden shouldn't be there? You heard nothing of content from her? What debate were you watching?
She was very friendly to Biden. She had much content in her words. I refer you to her energy ideas, as one example. Perhaps you should go back and listen again, and try to leave your predjudices out of it. You might hear a whole new debate. I thought Biden was good also. In fact, after last nights 2nd ho hum debate from the two preidential nominess, I wish we had a Palin/ Biden, or Biden/Palin, ticket. "
Hear Ye wrote on Oct 9, 2008 8:57 PM: