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Fire at apartment complex leaves 16 homeless
Wednesday, September 17, 2008
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3:15 p.m.A three-alarm fire early Tuesday morning at the Willow Glen Apartments on Wilkins Avenue in east Napa engulfed six units, sent a man to the hospital with critical burns and left 16 tenants homeless, including children.

Two units were destroyed, two received major damage and the other two had lesser damage in the 3 a.m. fire, according to Napa Fire Marshal Darren Drake.
The damaged single-bedroom apartments are in one of the complex’s two-story buildings, with three upstairs units and three downstairs units per building.

The fire started in the middle downstairs apartment. The sole occupant, Jimmie Schuyler, 61, suffered first-and second-degree burns over 30 percent of his body and also had respiratory injuries, said Mike Randolph, Napa fire operations division chief.
He was taken to Queen of the Valley Medical Center and then transported to UC Davis Medical Burn Center in Sacramento, Randolph said.

Schuyler was in critical condition, a hospital spokeswoman said Tuesday afternoon.
The building is not equipped with a fire sprinkler system. Each unit has a smoke detector, Napa Fire Capt. Peter Langham said. “However, the power had gone out earlier, disabling the smoke detectors. So they were not working at the time the fire started.”

PG&E spokeswoman Jana Morris said there was a power outage in the Napa area that affected about 970 customers. It started at 2:40 a.m., Tuesday, and power was restored to the majority of customers by 5 a.m. the same morning, Morris said, adding, the possible cause is downed power wires.

Fire investigators were on scene around 5 a.m., sifting through debris to determine how the blaze started. “At this point, we only know the point of origin, which is the burn victim’s unit. It is far too early to confirm a cause,” Drake said on Tuesday morning.

“This is a typical flashover, where all the contents and materials in the room are on fire.”

Drake said Schuyler, suffering from burns, was laying on the steps of a stairway of an adjacent apartment just feet from his front door when firefighters arrived.

The fire started in Schuyler’s unit and spread directly to the apartment above him, where seven people live.

One of the residents in that apartment told fire officials he was awakened by a stomping noise coming from the apartment below, Drake said. “He said the tenant below (Schuyler) was yelling, ‘Fire, fire, everyone get out.’”

All of the tenants were outside the building by the time firefighters arrived.

As daylight broke Tuesday morning, some of the fire victims sifted through the belongings firefighters had managed to save. Several somber-faced residents searched through papers and other water-soaked items.

Three men gathered up sporting equipment and a drenched pair of cowboy boots. Charred furniture and mounds of burnt rubble were piled around the building, which still had the smell of burning materials.

The American Red Cross was on scene shortly after the fire was reported. Spokeswoman Sharon Baker said the first step was to get the displaced victims to a motel.

“Then we will have them come into the office to pick up vouchers for food and clothes. We will work with those who don’t have a place to stay to find them housing,” said Baker.

Langham said apartment managers also were housing displaced tenants in unoccupied apartments at the complex.

The injured victim, Schuyler, is a well-known face at Napa Golf Course at Kennedy Park in south Napa.

Schuyler has worked at the golf course maintaining the carts and driving range for about 10 years. He lost one arm in December 1968 in an industrial accident while working for the railroad in Oakland, yet he still golfs a few times a week.

Robert Becker, assistant golf professional at the golf course, described Schuyler as a “nice guy who really would do most anything for anyone. He was always willing to help out. All of our regulars know Jimmie. He is sort of a fixture out here,” Becker said. “It is really sad something like this happened to such a nice guy.”

Becker said Schuyler is a long-time Napan. “His dad worked on the Wine Train. Jimmie worked with him for a while.”

An army of firefighters and equipment lined Wilkins Avenue Tuesday morning, reaching almost to Shetler Avenue. The last fire crew left the scene around noon Tuesday.

An estimated monetary loss of the fire was not available on Tuesday.
70 comment(s)

cathyodom wrote on Sep 16, 2008 7:28 AM:

" Cheap rent, gangs, crime, no sprinkler system, and 7 people in one apartment.... sounds like a recipe for disaster. "

mominapa wrote on Sep 16, 2008 7:40 AM:

" Probably not a good idea for 7 people to live in one apartment, but it is criminal for the apartment owners not to provide fire protection. It was not mentioned in the article whether or not there were smoke detectors. Exactly the reason I hate apartment living, but some people have no choice but to "buddy up" in these horrible economic times. Reminds me of a complex I lived in which was owned by the late, great Napa and Contra Costa County Slumlord, Ed Keith. Fill up the apartments with as many people as possible, charge high rent and make money. Don't make repairs, don't exterminate bugs and vermin and don't make yourself available to the tenants, collect the rents and you too can be a rich slumlord in Napa County. Isn't that the American Dream - take advantage of immigrants until they know the law and then hide from them? "

mypoint wrote on Sep 16, 2008 8:14 AM:

" Isn't there a cap on how many people live in an apartment? 7 people in one apartment, geez, I wonder how many rooms there were? "

jwk wrote on Sep 16, 2008 8:45 AM:

" Hope they have Good or ANY Insurance.. No doubt, this will happen again with piling in too many people and too much stuff into a small apartment meant for two or three.. Maybe Pat, Ruff, napa-grl or napavalley61 will open up their houses now to all these people..They can let them put their Flags up in their Garages. After all we stole their country from them, it's the least the bleading heart Liberal type's can do. Bet it won't happen though. They want the rest of us to act.. "

winepunk wrote on Sep 16, 2008 9:19 AM:

" I live in the apartments.. about 5 units away from where the fire took place.. and while I often refer to the apartments as "the ghetto" it's not that bad and there are a lot of very nice, clean and quite people living around me. I have never seen any gangs or crime in or around the apartments in the year that I have lived there. The fire first started in the bottom unit that was home to only one person (he is fine). I do absolutely agree that 7 people living in one apartment is rediculous and I know that the managers of the complex have been doing a lot to reduce the amount of people per unit. I can also confirm that there are fire alarms in each unit. Really.. my only complaint about the apartments is that they don't offer recycling.. which is just rediculous.

I was really impressed with the response time of the Napa fire department and their ability to get the fire out quickly. Firemen deserve all the respect in the world. "

psychochik wrote on Sep 16, 2008 9:33 AM:

" This complex was, at one time, owned by Ed Keith, the new owners seem to be doing the same thing he did, as little as possible. I'm surprised there were even smoke detectors !! "

amazed wrote on Sep 16, 2008 9:38 AM:

" If I'm not mistaken, isn't that apartment building an Ed Keith carryover? And shouldn't the buyer have been required to install a fire protection system? "

my name here wrote on Sep 16, 2008 9:44 AM:

" Hey cathyodom, where in the article does it say ANYTHING about gangs, cheap rent, or crime??? Do you have first-hand knowledge of this because you live there, or are you just speculating because you overheard it at some laundromat? I happen to live one block away from the apartments and my neighborhood has never experienced anything resembling a serious crime related to these apartments. According to you, the NVR crime map should be covered with incidents on Wilkins Ave. Have a look.

Times are rough, folks. You have to ask yourself if you'd rather have more homeless or 7 people in one apartment. "

chunk wrote on Sep 16, 2008 10:05 AM:

" Having seven people live in the apartment is smart. Good way to save money on rent and bills. Everybody knows how much of a waste of money paying rent is anyways. Glad they all made it out o.k. "

ADark1 wrote on Sep 16, 2008 10:19 AM:

" Announcement!!!!!!!


THE Awards committe in emergency executive session awards the.. Really Mean spirited "COMMENT" Award for the following:

jwk wrote on Sep 16, 2008 8:45 AM:
" Hope they have Good or ANY Insurance.. No doubt, this will happen again with piling in too many people and too much stuff into a small apartment meant for two or three.. Maybe Pat, Ruff, napa-grl or napavalley61 will open up their houses now to all these people..They can let them put their Flags up in their Garages. After all we stole their country from them, it's the least the bleading heart Liberal type's can do. Bet it won't happen though. They want the rest of us to act..
"

An "Act" like that is pretty tough to follow....congrats jwk I hope you wear it with pride.

Landlord of the month Award goes to the landlord of the Wilkins Apartments for "allegedlly" allowing 7 people to live in 1 apartment...Gives a new meaning to curbing urban sprawl!

Last but not least The Favorite Firefighters Award again goes to NFD for yet again doing, the best they can with what they have in a timely and profession manner!

Without you guys Napa WOULD be burning! Keep up the good work guys some of us appreciate you!

Congrats! "

Logisticz wrote on Sep 16, 2008 10:23 AM:

" "My Name Here's" comment was right on the dot. I live here right where the fire was. First of all, for all who are wondering; there is no renters insurance included in the rent which I believe most apartment complexes do provide. Second of all, these apartments are far from "Ghetto". I have never once been threatened or afraid walking through here even at the latest hours of the night. The only way they'd be classified as "Bad" would be because of the lazy management and understaffed mainenance crew. I dont know if many of you know but it's very depressing to walk outside and see a gutted out building where people you knew used to live, and now have no place to go. "

ADark1 wrote on Sep 16, 2008 10:26 AM:

" oops! Last but NOT Least...

The Angels of the month Award goes to the American Red Cross for being there and being Prompt!

I know how thankless your job is as my mother was a Clara Barton Award winner! You bring solace and comfort to those in need on a daily basis with thin resources..Keep it up! "

wow707 wrote on Sep 16, 2008 10:51 AM:

" Why can't we just be happy that the people living there are safe? Why do we have to comment on the fact of how many people lived there, or where the fire took place. It happened, and let's just be thankful that everyone is okay. I'm disgusted by the way you people comment. It's not where you live or how you live...That shouldn't matter. Unless your materialistic. "

707jng wrote on Sep 16, 2008 10:56 AM:

" hhhhmmm sounds to me like we have a Slum Lord on our hands. Good job!! your lack of sprinkler system could have killed someone! I hope this person goes to jail.
Cathy - wow again.... just because most of the tennants don't speak english does not mean there are gangs there. Where do you come up with this nonsense????? It's one thing to be opinonated but to sterotype people due to nationality is immature and mean
I hope all of these people find somewhere to go.
Can NVR try to keep up on this and tells us where we can make donations to these families?? "

make napa better wrote on Sep 16, 2008 11:04 AM:

" The crime rate on Wilkins Ave has gone down but the local pizza delivery places still won't deliver here :( "

JENNIFFERHAMILTON wrote on Sep 16, 2008 11:09 AM:

" I LIVE IN THE APARTMENTS and just for everyones info the fire did not start in the house where the 7 people lived so that is to bring no factor to the start of the fire thank good that everyone was ok...there are fire alarms in the apartments but my two bedroom only has one!!!!!!!!!!!! "

reason-ator wrote on Sep 16, 2008 11:18 AM:

" So is this Obama's or McCain's fault ? "

ExcellenceIsNotAnActButAHabit wrote on Sep 16, 2008 11:30 AM:

" This is such a tragic event that has happened to these families. Just think how they must feel to have lost every belonging they own, their clothes, pictures, family heirlooms. That feeling must leave them empty inside. They have worked so hard for what they own but at least these families still have one another.

What really amazes me is to see that the only thing people can do is pick out the bad in this newspaper article and gossip about the situation. YOU do not walk in these victims footsteps so do judge them. YOU do not know where they have been in life so do not act like you have any opinions to give.

Before making negative comments about 7 people living in a two bedroom apartment you should get down to the root of the problem.

Just figure;
A single parent with three children living in Napa makes an average of $15hr (working full time). After the LARGE tax deduction the monthly bring home amount is about $1800 a month.
1800
-1225 Rent
-40 Sewer, water & trash
-90 PG&E
-600 Childcare (so they can work)
= -155

WOW NAPA COUNTY! A single parent with three children cannot afford food at the end of the month and guess what.. they do not even qualify for emergency food stamps or assistance!
However a single parent with three children who sits at home all day collects CRC, welfare, housing, food stamps etc..
Maybe all Single parents should re think working and just stay home to have everything paid for. Where can I sign up!

CONTINUED.. "

ExcellenceIsNotAnActButAHabit wrote on Sep 16, 2008 11:31 AM:

" CONTINUED..
Now where the article says “The residents from the damaged units gathered together on the front lawn in front of the smoldering building. Most of them, dressed in sweatshirts and pants, some barefoot, did not speak English”
Ok, now this is just ridiculous! They were in sweats and barefoot because it was 3am and their house was on fire! Now come on... would you have taken the time to throw on some shoes and get properly dressed before you ran outside of a death trap? We live in a country that is diverse when ethnicity is involved. Is there really need to add “they did not speak English”?

By some of these peoples discriminating comments it shows that these are times of big men and small character, steep profits and shallow relationships. These are days of two incomes but more divorce, fancier houses but more broken homes. The amount of people in a home is not hurting anyone. If this is the only way to provide a roof over their children’s heads then let them be.

It’s time to stop talking.. get up and help our community that needs each of us. JUST REMEMBER, treat others how you would like to be treated. My thoughts and prayers go out to these families in need and I thank the lord that no firefighters or civilians were hurt. "

make napa better wrote on Sep 16, 2008 11:37 AM:

" The apartment complex has it's own gates and security. We live really close and hear gunshots on a regular basis, with people playing loud music screaming and fighting all night long.

What do you mean there's no gang activity? "

nscrgirl wrote on Sep 16, 2008 11:42 AM:

" Wow! Seven people in one apartment, doesn't sound legal, but then again who knows anymore! I would think that's a little unhealthy living environment with having all those people in a 2 bedroom.
Hopefully everthing turns out alright in the end for these people. "

Baraki wrote on Sep 16, 2008 12:01 PM:

" Oh those crazy Wilkins Avenue apartments -- glad most everyone came out okay. "

NValleygirl wrote on Sep 16, 2008 12:19 PM:

" My heart goes out to all of the victims of this fire. It is a devastating tragedy. It is amazing all of the gossip, negative comments, and other garbage posted to a topic as devastating as fire. Way to go!

make napa better: I too live in the same neighborhood, close to Wilkins apartments quit trying to make it into a war zone, gunshots, screaming, you would think that you were commenting on a battlezone which simply is not the case. Works well for dramatic effect though. "

noseyrosie wrote on Sep 16, 2008 12:29 PM:

" The residents from the damaged units gathered together on the front lawn in front of the smoldering building. Most of them, dressed in sweatshirts and pants, some barefoot, did not speak English.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WRITER? DID NOT SPEAK ENGLISH? HOW IS THIS RELEVANT? "

my name here wrote on Sep 16, 2008 12:42 PM:

" Must have been some smoldering embers going on, because the NFD was there all morning until Noon with hoses and a ladder truck. Aftert this incident, no doubt the Fire Marshal will be in contact with the property owner to assure that there are working smoke detectors in all the units. When these units were built California required fire sprinkler systems only if the building was more than three stories. The cost of installing a sprinkler system now would bankrupt the property owner.

In response to "make napa better": If your statement was true about "gunshots on a regular basis" then there would be multiple news stories of gunshot victims. Eventually, some of those bullets have to hit someone. It's likely that the pops you hear are from the frequent sky fireworks that my neighbors use to annoy the neighborhood. The screaming, fighting, and loud music is going to occur in any high-density housing. The SouthEast Imola distict of Napa is a safe area, have a look at the NVR crime map. "

B-Side wrote on Sep 16, 2008 12:50 PM:

" jwk,
Are you having a bad day? That had to be the meanest and most angry post I've ever seen here at NVR. Glad nobody was injured. It is the adversity in life that makes us stronger. "

tiredofcomplainingnapkins wrote on Sep 16, 2008 12:58 PM:

" 'm sure somewhere in the lease there is a rule against how many people can be sleeping in one apartment at any given time. Wilkins apts have had there share of crime and gang violence. I recall a story of a man shooting some people who showed up there and started destroying his car and it ended up being gang related. As a white person I will not walk through that area anymore because of the racist remarks I have had directed at me while I walked by Wilkins complex. Someone really needs to take over management of this place and enforce rules. "

Cadence wrote on Sep 16, 2008 1:07 PM:

" I've never heard of a landlord providing renter's insurance to tenants and including it in the monthly rent.
I think the landlord's insurance on the building might reimburse tenants if they lost possessions and could prove it was the landlord's fault, but do landlords now provide renter's insurance as well? "

Paddy wrote on Sep 16, 2008 1:09 PM:

" Cracking down on illegal occupancy will help in these unfortunate problems. This one-bedroom unit should have no more than 3 people living in it. The rule is 2+1 (2 per bedroom +1)... "

NapaNana wrote on Sep 16, 2008 1:09 PM:

" Any time there is a fire in an apartment building their is a greater risk of more people/property being damaged. They are all very lucky to have gotten out of there as safely as they did.
I have nothing but respect for family taking care of family. I had a 3 bedroom house that I raised my crew in......would some of you have considered it overcrowded or against the law? Or would it be O.K. because I am an old white lady?
These Wilkins apartments have cleaned up a lot over the past few years. 15-20 years ago they were at their peak of hell. There were regular shootings.....lots of vandals. Bad reputations are hard to live down.
You kids are so silly sometimes. Just something to argue about. Smile and be thankful that it wasn't your home up in flame. "

o4ahomer wrote on Sep 16, 2008 2:19 PM:

" so many harsh people commenting on a horrible event. Jimmie is a great human being, a true man, great instructor. during our many trips to the range, Jimmie took time to correct my swing following major back surgery. He taught my 7 yr old son how to correctly drive a ball, all free help
( advice) . My son looks for Jimmie every time we hit the range. My prayers are with you and the other families that are in need of help. good luck to all. and god bless "

psychochik wrote on Sep 16, 2008 2:53 PM:

" If you people think there are no problems with that apartment complex then you obviously have never lived in or near them. I lived on Terrace with my back fence to the parking lot of those apartments and I cant tell you how many times we had people hopping the fence running from the cops and how many times we heard gunshots and the like. Yeah, crime free !! Gimme a break people.

So glad we moved. "

make napa better wrote on Sep 16, 2008 3:07 PM:

" Edit Alert, Edit Alert! It was 25 ppl and 5 apartments this morning. That's an average of 5 ppl per apartment! "

logisticz wrote on Sep 16, 2008 3:52 PM:

" Just for everyone's info.......

The fire alarms were inactive due to a power outage. According to a management employee, they are in process of installing battery backup fire alarms throughout the property. Great thinking.....after the fire. "

aeval26 wrote on Sep 16, 2008 3:54 PM:

" I really think the least important matter here is how many people were living there. I am glad everyone is still alive. As to a "possible downed power line", I'd like to say that I was out on Coombsville Rd. last night around midnight delivering newspapers, and watched with my own two eyes as 3 or 4 transformers blew up, lighting the night sky with an eerie blue glow.... THAT is the reason for the huge power failure. Imagine my surprise coming home to my apartment at Wilkins to a street full of emergency vehicles! "

logisticz wrote on Sep 16, 2008 3:55 PM:

" Cadence wrote on Sep 16, 2008 1:07 PM:

" I've never heard of a landlord providing renter's insurance to tenants and including it in the monthly rent.
I think the landlord's insurance on the building might reimburse tenants if they lost possessions and could prove it was the landlord's fault, but do landlords now provide renter's insurance as well? "

^^^^All of the information i was referring to was my last landlord in San Rafael. And yes, they did provide renters insurance.... "

14obama wrote on Sep 16, 2008 3:57 PM:

" 7 in an Apt. ? Hey,ya gotta do what ya gotta do ! Don't go judging people again ! Put yourself in their shoes .... then,shut-up ! "

logisticz wrote on Sep 16, 2008 3:59 PM:

" tiredofcomplainingnapkins wrote on Sep 16, 2008 12:58 PM:

" 'm sure somewhere in the lease there is a rule against how many people can be sleeping in one apartment at any given time. Wilkins apts have had there share of crime and gang violence. I recall a story of a man shooting some people who showed up there and started destroying his car and it ended up being gang related. As a white person I will not walk through that area anymore because of the racist remarks I have had directed at me while I walked by Wilkins complex. Someone really needs to take over management of this place and enforce rules. "
^^^^^
HAHAHHAA!!! I'm caucasian, live in wilkins apartments, get off of work at 11:30 pm, walk from my car(around one block) to my house, and again, have never felt threatened....I'm wondering which wilkins you visited... "

tiredofcomplainingnapkins wrote on Sep 16, 2008 4:57 PM:

" To logisticz,

I'm just telling of a situation that happend to me. I'm not saying everyone in there is racist, and i'm not saying that there are no white people living there. I'm just telling a situation I encountered and now I will not walk by there anymore. I grew up in LA and know when to stay away from a certain area because of the color of your skin. I also know what gang calls and racist language sounds like. Not saying everyone in there is like that but I have encountered it from some. "

nscrgirl wrote on Sep 16, 2008 5:33 PM:

" I'm totally with aeval26, I live in the 200 block of Soscol, my power went out at 11:55PM, and didn't come back on until almost 1:00AM. I wasn't aware that there was yet another outage later on as the PG&E spokesperson claims.
My thoughts and prayers go out to those who were caught up in this fire. Hang in there, things will get better in time! "

napagurl85 wrote on Sep 16, 2008 6:17 PM:

" This is a sad story. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone involved in this fire. I'm sure it is a tough time for them all. It also makes me sad to read all of these comments. I think we need to think before we type, and please try to live a day in their shoes. I'm sure it would make you think twice. Let's just all act like the adults we are. Please. "

g00z7 wrote on Sep 16, 2008 6:59 PM:

" first of all waz up wit does comments about gang activity and crimes where did u people got that from...7 ppl in an apartment man!!!wats wrong wit u ppl u got 2 do watever this days in order 2 survive so plz ppl think about wat u write b4 u write it... "

napaed1 wrote on Sep 16, 2008 7:13 PM:

" My apartment was one of those put out of commission by the fire. I live next to Jim, where the fire started. I feel terrible for the families that lost everything they had. Thank God I have insurance or I would be in the same boat. Good friends have put me up for the time it takes to get organized and in a new place. So much judgemental thought on these pages from many of the people's comments! May you never have to flee for your life in the middle of the night and find out you've lost everything you own. For shame, what supposedly grown adults turn into! Compassion of rocks! "

MISSMARVELOUS wrote on Sep 16, 2008 7:41 PM:

" It this fire had been in Vallejo, the Vallejo fire department would have said the reason that they could not put it out in time is that they are understaffed. So why didnt the Napa fire department put it out and save the building? Napa is fully staffed. Because not all buildings can be saved, and not all lives can be saved, sad but the truth... "

ruiz94558 wrote on Sep 16, 2008 9:14 PM:

" thank you ExcellenceIsNotAnActButAHabit, you nailed it! I couldn't have put it any better. Now here we go again judging and critizicing without even knowing facts. Is the point of the article not being read? It was about a FIRE not about how many people were in an apartment and whether or not they spoke English. They were not the ones who started the fire in the first place if you all would have listened to the clip and read the article before judging. And again, thanks to the Napa County and the tourists who make this county impossible to make it alone. so yes, it does come down to having people live with just so you can survive!! "

skiph wrote on Sep 16, 2008 9:16 PM:

" The smoke alarms didn't work because the power was out? Don't they usually run on batteries? Shouldn't there be backup power for something so important? "

out in napa wrote on Sep 16, 2008 9:51 PM:

" In apartment buildings the smoke detectors are electrical so if the power is out they do not work. This is done because the owners can not depend on renters replacing the batteries as needed and to leave the batteries in. I agree that a backup system should be made available to property owners that use these types of systems. I beleive that due to the age of the building and when it was built it is not required to have a sprinkler system. NFD does regular checks and if they were required the company would have been fined and required to fix the problem.
As for the 7 people living in the apartment, the law allows 2 people per bedroom plus 1 for a residence. So of it was indeed a 3 bedroom apartment they were doing nothing wrong. If it wasn't at least a 3 bedroom then the property owners after some explaining to do.
There is not an apartment complex in the land that provides renters insurance. Every rental contract that you fill out states that insurance is NOT provided and it is suggested you get your own.
At the end of the day it's probably best to be sure we are all doing the right thing before we judge others actions and be thankful nobody was seriously injured. "

justnana wrote on Sep 16, 2008 10:53 PM:

" Thank you for the facts, Out in Napa! Can the NVR put a little box add somewhere to let people know what the folks who were displaced need. I'm sure many of us have kitchen items or clothes, just need a place to take them and a list of what is needed.
NapaNana had it spot on! My crew has come and gone and some come back, and it's good to have family around. Nothin wrong with taking care of one another. "

raybo wrote on Sep 16, 2008 11:00 PM:

" In regards to the 7 people in an apartment, I attended a City Council meeting several years ago regarding the Sheveland Ranch development. At that meeting the subject of occupant density came up. The council to the Council, a very PC woman stated that since you couldn't limit the number of related people living in 1 home, it would be discrimination to limit the number of unrelated people in 1 home. Love the PC. "

ADark1 wrote on Sep 17, 2008 12:51 AM:

" Announcement!!!!!!

The Awards Committee is announcing a major miracle...Granted not on the same level as the second coming but!!!!! Two Awards on a short thread is nothing short of a miracle!

The "You've been "texting" way too long award is Awarded for the following:

g00z7 wrote on Sep 16, 2008 6:59 PM:

"" first of all waz up wit does comments about gang activity and crimes where did u people got that from...7 ppl in an apartment man!!!wats wrong wit u ppl u got 2 do watever this days in order 2 survive so plz ppl think about wat u write b4 u write it... "

C0ngratzzz G00zzzz27!

g00z27....dude or dudette.....we really gotta work on diction here please the Awards committee claims their eyes are bleeding! "

MISSMARVELOUS wrote on Sep 17, 2008 6:24 AM:

" As long as "ag" ie wine is the main source of employeement, and "white" people dont want to work picking grapes, then brown people will do the work. The brown people are not paid much, and dont have many benefits, so they must live together in groups to lessen the financial burden. Napa County could become the next San Joaquin Valley, that exactly what happend there, except rent is cheapers so not quite so many people living together in cramped quarters. You want to solve this situation? One of two things will have to happen 1) white people will start picking grapes, 2) wineries will start paying a lot more money and benefits. Neither is likely to happen any time soon... "

CrazySPT wrote on Sep 17, 2008 7:35 AM:

" We live at these apartments. We have been very happy here and want to continue living here for years to come. Yes, the smoke alarms need to be updated, but do what we did and go out and spend $10.00 on an extra one!
The fire department, Red Cross, Piners, and apartment management, and everyone else involved did a WONDERFUL job. Thanks to all of you! "

nscrgirl wrote on Sep 17, 2008 8:31 AM:

" I live in an apartment building that has a smoke detector that is electric, but when our power goes, which is 2 or 3 times a month, it has battery back up which works fine. I'm kind of in shock they wouldn't use the same kind in all apartments, we also have a sprinkler system as well.
I sure hope that the man injured recovers soon and everyone who suffered a loss in this can get on with their lives after such a tragedy. "

iluvnapa wrote on Sep 17, 2008 8:47 AM:

" Best Wishes to Jimmie....the man is a staple out at Kennedy and just the other day helped my 8 yr old son w/ his golf swing. Does anyone know if there is going to be a "collection" to help him with his medical costs? "

tazzmaster wrote on Sep 17, 2008 10:45 AM:

" AWSOME PICTURE ON THE FRONT PAGE. JUST TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT IT'S ABOUT 6TH POWER OUTAGE IN THE COOMBSVILLE AREA IN THE LAST TWO MONTH'S AND A FEW HAVE STARTED GRASS FIRE'S. "

krazyladee wrote on Sep 17, 2008 10:49 AM:

" It doesn't sound like the 61-year-old golfer is much of a gang affiliate. Nor am I and I live at Wilkins Apts. There are many ethnicities, ages, and backgrounds represented here. The rent is tollerable. I feel that it is a very quiet complex.
While we speculate on all the causes of the fire, we should keep in mind that there is a very sweet man in the hospital suffering. How can we help?
It's almost 2009 and I am shocked at the ignorance and hate spat on here.
For those of you who are so annoyed by the thought of 7 people living in one apartment, I have a few questions for you. Would you ever turn your back on a loved one who needed a place to live? If so, would you be able to look at yourself in the mirror? Why don't you offer one of the extra rooms in your home to these people, since it bothers you so much? Do you know their story? Enlighten me please! You are so quick to judge but offer no solution. I have a solution for you: Help out or shut up! "

abouttime wrote on Sep 17, 2008 11:44 AM:

" Glad to see there has finally been some push back to the hate spewing forth here. Our concerns should be for the displaced families and their needs and Jimmy and his. Instead this story becomes a touchstone for the bigotry and vitriol and racism that is so alive in this community. The Register needs to stop these comments. This racism does not reflect the greater community. We are better than that. This should be a place for honest discourse not a home for hate. "

curiositykilledthecat wrote on Sep 17, 2008 11:46 AM:

" Just for the record, there was a comment stating that the occupant of the apartment was fine. He is NOT fine, he is in critical condition. I think everyone should be thinking about the people who lost their homes and about the man (Jimmie Schuyler) who is fighting for his life in the hospital right now. It also seems as if this man tried to get everyone he could out of the apartments. Thankfully no one else was injured. "

mypoint wrote on Sep 17, 2008 12:57 PM:

" has anyone ever heard of freedom of speech? "

mari wrote on Sep 17, 2008 1:06 PM:

" I cant believe how heartless some of you are...who cares how many people were in one apartment. That didnt cause the fire. We have injured people from this fire. Thats what should matter...no one seems to care. My prayers go out to all involved. "

abouttime wrote on Sep 17, 2008 3:00 PM:

" There is no freedom of speech here. This is a private blog and the Register has the right to regulate it as it sees fit. Another uneducated idea of what freedom is all about. "

mypoint wrote on Sep 17, 2008 4:42 PM:

" well maybe the register didn't think the first comment needed to be regulated "

imantycris wrote on Sep 17, 2008 4:59 PM:

" Why isn't anyone angry at PG&E over any this. The power goes out in this part of Napa so often it's like living in a 3rd world country. PG&E comes up with lame excuses like downed power lines lines when there isn't any wind blowing.

The truth is their transformers are old and cannot carry the load caused by the building of so many new houses in this area. I've told PG&E that myself but it does no good.

Yes, people should buy smoke alarms with batteries but they still might fall down the stairs in the dark trying to evacuate.

P.S. There is a secret when calling PG&E if you want to get to a real person to lodge a complaint. Press the button for Billing and then don't press any more buttons or press the wrong buttons when prompted. THAT gets you to a live person! "

mytwocents wrote on Sep 17, 2008 6:31 PM:

" I lost a family member in a house fire in 2004. I am really glad everyone made it out alive, that is the single most imporntant thing. As for the rest, it's often hard for me to comprehend how mean people are on this blog so much so that I rarely choose to comment anymore. "

aid wrote on Sep 17, 2008 7:38 PM:

" come on pleople STOP criticism. I hope you never be in a situacion like this does anybody know how is jimmy doing. "

aeval26 wrote on Sep 17, 2008 8:03 PM:

" I'm with imantycris. There was no wind, I saw the transformers blow up with my own eyes at midnight that night. Why aren't we hearing about that in the paper? Why do we let PG&E give us b.s. excuses that don't make any sense?? "

richaelsmommie wrote on Sep 17, 2008 9:31 PM:

" I was just wondering if there were any little girls that were effected in the fire that wear size 2t-3t clothes I have a big bag of them and I would love to give them to a little girl who needs them. I feel so aweful that these familes are going to be struggling in this hard time. May everything work out ofr them. Please let us know the ages of the kids. "

ProudMommy wrote on Sep 18, 2008 4:52 PM:

" i live in the apartment complex, very close to where the fire happened. and ive never witnessed ANY gang activity or any violent activity for that manner. the apartments definitely arent the nicest in the city, but theyre not the worst either. it does bother me that there are no fire sprinklers especially since i have a 1 year old myself. and im shocked that they would let 7 people live in a one bedroom apartment, i have a one bedroom and its crowded with my husband, my son and myself. i know they werent the cause of the fire, but there is no reason for that many people to be in one small apartment . "

ProudMommy wrote on Sep 18, 2008 4:55 PM:

" and yes the pg&e has gone out at least 3 times in the past month, all at nighttime but it still pisses me off! im sick of it!! "

eva15 wrote on Sep 19, 2008 5:20 PM:

" I have been living at this apartment complex for a year and a half, and I have to say that many of the comments made are based on very false information. I am very happy to live here. The management has made an excellent effort to create an ideal tenant profile. From my point of view, there is a diversity of people living at this apartment complex many of which are hard-working, or educated professionals. It is rumored that a certain person was the cause of this fire and that measures were already being taken to move this person out. Unfortunately, it happened a little too late. I would recommend to anyone in Napa to live at this apartment community. I live here with my young child and there have been plenty of times that I have stepped out when it is dark, and not once have I ever felt unsafe. I am acquainted with some of the tenants affected by the fire and I assure you that within hours every one of them had a new place to live within the apartment complex. I lived in LA for a very long time, and I know very well what is the scene of gang related activity. Let me tell you, it is not found at this apartment complex. As far as Mexicans overrunning the complex and whistling at white women, please think before you speak. "

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