" Ok NB, you're going to have to provide a little background info if you want to go down this road.

Where did you find information about Palin's church? All I can find are blog entries and the four I looked at had four DIFFERENT churches and different pastors! What is the pastor's name? How long has she attended that church? 20 years like B.O.? Did that particular pastor marry Sarah? Did he teach religion to her children? Was he also a family friend and confidant? "

" There will be little by way of issues in this election because the answers to the problems facing this country are not what people want to hear.

-Iraq either stay and pay or leave and let the chips fall where they may.

-The deficit/government spending: either cut services or raise taxes.

-energy policy: either cripple the environment with fossil fuels and pray for an aleternative sometime in the future or cut back, conserve and work on unproven "alternatives".

None of the solutions to our problems is simple or easy. It's like the Col. in "A Few Good Men": "You want the truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH". "

" Kevin, I got it from Max Blumenthal, blogger who has an audio clip of Palins pastor speaking on his blog site. It has been quoted all over the web.

Btw, what road am I going down? Expecting the truth from both sides? Sorry I am not an idealogue.

Here's some relevant quotes from the sermon:

On July 20, 2008, the pastor of Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin's home church, Larry Kroon, delivered a sermon called "Sin Is Personal To God." Kroon, the senior pastor of the non-denominational Wasilla Bible Church in Wasilla, Alaska, used the book of Zephanaiah as his reference point for discussing "that great day of the Lord when God will finally bring closure to human history... a day of wrath." According to Kroon, "all things and all people" are going to bear the brunt of God's "intense anger." "There's anger with God," he proclaimed. "He takes sin personal."

Kroon placed Zephaniah in a modern context, warning that the sinful habits of Americans would invite the wrath of God. "And if Zephaniah were here today," Kroon bellowed, "he'd be saying, 'Listen, [God] is gonna deal with all the inhabitants of the earth. He is gonna strike out His hand against, yes, Wasilla; and Alaska; and the United States of America. There's no exceptions here -- there's none. It's all.'" "

" teacher, I go back to my old theme and the theme of my first blog--character. The campaign is so dishonest because people lack character.

I am still in the middle about who to vote for, but I am in no hurry to make up my mind. That is why we have a campaign.

But I have been horrified to see how much lying the Republicans have done about Obama. They are implying that he is a terrorist because he was on a school board with Bill Ayers. I get emails telling me he is a black Muslim marxist, completely disproven.

Now the Democrats are cranking that up because they feel that they have to fight fire with fire, and have started on Palin, today I got an email with the whole Palin tried to ban books thing. Already discredited, but the whole campaign appears that it is going to consist of all these inflammatory emotional charges and counter charges.

Its too bad.

As time moves forward here I am going to try to clarify the issues in my columns and stick to actual issues. "

" NB: I don't know about the banned books being debunked, but you know what, I don't care if she did try. It's irrelevant.

Campaigns go negative because it works. What does that say about us Americans? "

" Here is a question:

What is the purpose of Government?

Are we a collections of individuals or is this group effort?

I would like to see either of the candidates answer those tow questions. "

" So now you are comparing a sermon about Armagedden with Rev. Wright's anti-American rant? That is SOOO lame, NB.

If your the best B.O. has on his side, he's toast... "

" NB, you are horrified about how much lying the repubs have done about Obama?....want to experience a real nightmare? Go to factcheck.org, and see how much the Democrats are lying about McCain/Palin, also. It is what it is. There is, as I have repeatedly said, so much misinformation spread by both sides, that I find it very interesting that you seem to be just focusing on the things said about Obama. It seems the tripe is evely weighted on both sides. "

" Sandra, I went to Factcheck.org. This is what it says: QUOTE!
"A McCain-Palin ad has FactCheck.org calling Obama's attacks on Palin "absolutely false" and "misleading." That's what we said, but it wasn't about Obama.

Our article criticized anonymous e-mail falsehoods and bogus claims about Palin posted around the Internet. We have no evidence that any of the claims we found to be false came from the Obama campaign.

The McCain-Palin ad also twists a quote from a Wall Street Journal columnist. He said the Obama camp had sent a team to Alaska to "dig into her record and background." The ad quotes the WSJ as saying the team was sent to "dig dirt."

Update, Sept. 10: Furthermore, the Obama campaign insists that no researchers have been sent to Alaska and that the Journal owes them a correction."

It seems that all you want to do is repeat the RNC's talking points. You are lying by ommission, you point out that SOME of what is being said about Gov. Palin is not true, but you have left out the caveats that they include in their analysis. AND you keep leaving out the other important FACT: The Obama Campaign has NOTHING at all to do with this.

It's a shameful tactic. "

" Teacher...you slay me...That is all you saw on Fact check? Type in Obama, and you will see pages of stuff. Here is a small sampling:

Hit the Brakes

FactChecking Obama

Taking Liberties in Philadelphia

Reed Reality

Distorting McCain's Remarks

Now I believe I said both sides do it, so how is that repeating RNC talking points? "

" Sandra: I am shocked! SHOCKED! to hear that Obama, a POLITICIAN for God's sake, would distort someone's record or tell a fib.

I thought that ALL politicians (except McCain, of course) run honest, straight forward campaigns that only address the issues that concern Americans.

I thank Heaven for factcheck.org. Otherwise I might never have guessed the truth about Obama. "

" …..I think there is a difference, a big difference between the Pastors....…Obama’s pastor was preaching the justification of slaughtering innocent Americans, his preaching was for the continuing damming of American for all eternity….where was his scripture relevance?

Palin’s pastor is clearly preaching the ultimate consequences of sin upon his flock based on biblical text of a historical event…that’s what he’s paid to do…he never mentions or encourages damming anything, let alone American, innocents, whitey etc…never implies man‘s right to slaughter fellow man and certainly doesn‘t glorify terrorism.

Night and day difference between the message and the messenger…. "

" Hokum, Why is any body even still posting to this thread Palin is a cypher for the religious right and nothing more.

Where are the issues in the head lines to day? "It's the economy Stupid." It's who runs the treasury and who runs the Federal reserve that matters not whether sexy mama wears pants suits and eats Polar bears. "

" After reading these comments...

NB, you have a point !

The country is on the brink of a major election, and the voters will decide between two very different directions for the country.

I hope it's a landslide in whatever direction, and that the winners do put the welfare of the American people first.

I'm as partisan as anybody can be, but I both love and served my country... and I want 'America the Beautiful' to prosper.

~Ruff "

" Here is something to chew on.....

After 5 years of litigation, former POW's from IRAQ WON the right to sue Iraq for torture etc.....President Bush vetoed it / Blocked it...chew on that along with the fact that NOW, Troopergate doesn't seem to be going anywhere and it seems they are hiding a few things.
Cain is bashing Obama for a 9 million dollar fundraiser in Hollyweird, even though Cain had a 5 million dollar fund raiser a few days earlier in Miami...


Talk about *Haters*! LOL!

Oh yea Obama has taken away Cain's lead even in the hotly contested states...Its getting better and better.. "