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posted 8.19.08, updated 8.23.08Barack Obama chose Delaware Sen. Joe Biden as his running mate ... what do you think of the choice?

Remember as you read the comments that this reader forum posted a week before Biden was chosen...
 -- A couple notes here, if you try to make this an attack on any person, your comment is going to be deleted.

-- John McCain supporters have a reader forum for their candidate also, so post the McCain comments there. The link is on this Web page.
-- Once the VP choice is named, this will remain as a place to comment about what you think of the choice and the tandem's chances in November.

--Dan
164 comment(s)

hear ye wrote on Aug 19, 2008 10:22 AM:

" looks like Biden is the current frontrunner "

Joanne wrote on Aug 19, 2008 1:17 PM:

" I'm going with Biden, too. "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 19, 2008 3:58 PM:

" Mayor Newsom...??? "

diehard4ever wrote on Aug 19, 2008 4:40 PM:

" Osama Bin Laden...jk LOL.

MAybe hillary? "

elb wrote on Aug 19, 2008 5:16 PM:

" Dwayne, ha-ha I was already out of Cali when I found out Newsom was entertaining the Governor's seat, if he gets anywhere near the White House then I'm afraid I will have to hop countries too.

Sorry, folks, but I'm so bummed with this year's candidates that I don't think any vice is going to make me very thrilled. "

russ wrote on Aug 19, 2008 7:19 PM:

" I'd love to see Biden. He certainly would increase the entertainment value of the ticket. Joe is a wild man. "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 19, 2008 8:09 PM:

" russ: Biden is clean and articulate....... "

russ wrote on Aug 19, 2008 9:39 PM:

" Dwayne,

You are right on....except Biden has a potty mouth. "

hear ye wrote on Aug 20, 2008 12:57 AM:

" Biden is a risky choice for the very reason russ said. He is somewhat of a loose cannon but he is also extremely intelligent, passionate, and provides instant credibility on foreign policy. I would love to have a couple pints with the guy. "

Sandra wrote on Aug 20, 2008 8:55 AM:

" I overheard an Obamanite wishing feverently that it would be Gore...Can you imagine the Ticket?..... Obama and Triple G....(Green God Gore, for those of you unfamiliar with the Triple G name)...Gave me a huge chuckle. "

BD4 wrote on Aug 20, 2008 9:02 AM:

" I like Biden too, but wouldn't this go against Obama's campaign message of change? Having a 30 year politician as VP doesn't fit the bill. "

kevin wrote on Aug 20, 2008 1:12 PM:

" With B.O. dropping behind McCain in the polls, Hillary is probably sounding better all the time.

He could put up with having a food taster for 4 years... "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 20, 2008 1:44 PM:

" Clever kevin, I'm dyin' here..... Haaaaaa... "

injoy wrote on Aug 21, 2008 3:32 PM:

" Putting the Clinton's in the VP seat could be hazardous to his health. "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 22, 2008 6:51 AM:

" Joanne, you might be right and I may have missed something, but I can't find anything like you mentioned, so could you point out an example...???

Thanks.... "

kevin wrote on Aug 22, 2008 11:14 AM:

" It appears B.O. may have had a little difficulty with his selection. It was supposed to be released early this morning. Who wouldn't want to be on a sinking ship...er I mean a winning ticket, like that... "

nightwatchman wrote on Aug 22, 2008 1:21 PM:

" Kev, I think Obama doesn't want to take attention away from this McCain house story. I wouldn't be surprised if he waited until Monday. "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 22, 2008 3:21 PM:

" FLASH: A news source reports that a company in Kansas City, which specializes in political literature, has been printing Obama-Bayh material... "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 22, 2008 3:23 PM:

" I can't help cracking myself up with my own bumper sticker:

OBAMA - BYEEEE

Haaaaaaaa.......... "

hear ye wrote on Aug 22, 2008 3:33 PM:

" Drudge is reporting it's Evan Bayh. "

Joanne wrote on Aug 22, 2008 4:30 PM:

" Drudge has published unreliable intelligence" in the past. I'll wait until I get it straight from the source. "

Paul wrote on Aug 22, 2008 4:31 PM:

" What's the most dangerous place in Wash. D.C.? Between Joe Biden and a camera! I think Hillary Clinton would give the ticket a better chance. Joe Biden has actually said more negative things about Sen. Obama than Sen. Clinton. All of those quotes will be in GOP ads. "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 22, 2008 5:29 PM:

" Joanne: It's on Drudge, but was reported by an NBC affiliate.... "

hear ye wrote on Aug 22, 2008 5:42 PM:

" Looking like the bayh stuff was false "

russ wrote on Aug 22, 2008 6:07 PM:

" Bayh will be a good choice and compliment to Obama.

The Charismatic Messiah plus Clark Kent.

Now I hear it is Biden. Good choice. The only problem will be Biden remembering he is number two on the ticket. Talk about a guy with baggage, that's Joe Biden. it will be entertaining.

Biden vs Romney would be Ali vs Frazier. "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 22, 2008 6:10 PM:

" Yep.....

"Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh and Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine have been told by Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's campaign they will not be his vice presidential choice, NBC News reported on Friday, quoting sources." "

kevin wrote on Aug 22, 2008 6:30 PM:

" Bye, bye Obama Bayh... "

kevin wrote on Aug 22, 2008 6:34 PM:

" The Indiana governor, Mitch Daniels is a Republican. If Bayh is elected he will appoint a Republican... "

Sandra wrote on Aug 22, 2008 7:24 PM:

" LOL Obama byeee....better than triple g for sure....saw Vickie Lawrence over the weekend...She did Mama, and Mama thought she would make a good choice...Obama Mama "

Joanne wrote on Aug 22, 2008 8:10 PM:

" "Dwayne wrote on Aug 22, 2008 6:51 AM:
' Joanne, you might be right and I may have missed something, but I can't find anything like you mentioned, so could you point out an example...???

Thanks.... '"

I am confused by this post. Are you responding to a comment that I made on another Web page, perhaps? "

ADark1 wrote on Aug 23, 2008 4:55 AM:

" Is it really official?

Seems a report is out that it IS Biden!

Glad it isnt hillary who wants a snake in their house! So much for change..Well, China says snarf and perhaps you guys want to still write her in?
\
Obama-Biden...rolls pretty nice off the tounge.. "

Raven wrote on Aug 23, 2008 7:38 AM:

" and the winner is Joseph Biden...a good choice "

Hear Ye wrote on Aug 23, 2008 8:19 AM:

" Well, the text messages rolled in last night and Biden it is. Great choice, I look forward to the VP debate "

jmo wrote on Aug 23, 2008 9:14 AM:

" 1. Let us not forget why Biden had to drop out of the 88 election.

2. Talk about an ultimate insider who runs off at the mouth.

Seems to me that Obama caved in...he could have done better....much better.

Hello President Mc Cain. "

kevin wrote on Aug 23, 2008 10:29 AM:

" Got to love it. McCain already has adds out showing Biden during the marathon democrat primary, bashing B.O. as being too inexperienced! "

jwk wrote on Aug 23, 2008 11:13 AM:

" Great choice for thr good guys side! This guy is a proven loose cannon and somewhat of an Anti-American too.. Man does this give us fuel or what?? NOt that we needed any more. There's alot of good taped recordings of this nut job's own words.. Even tho he may be more qualified that OsamaObama, he recently stated that Oblama wasn't ready for the job. It trully is above "His Pay scale". Let's watch what The Super Delegates do at their convention. Maybe the more qualified Hillary (Which isn't saying much) will retake the party!! "

Raven wrote on Aug 23, 2008 12:24 PM:

" and how many ads do you think will be running if McCain chooses Romeny as VP....seems he said pretty much the same thing about McCain during the campaign "

a teacher wrote on Aug 23, 2008 12:26 PM:

" I would have voted for Biden, he's smart, experienced and has grit. I always felt that Obama had the intelligence to choose people who would lead wisely and my faith is rewarded. Biden is a good choice.

Now the folks on the other side, the less thoughtful like joke, will just poke fun at gaffs Biden has made. He does have a habit of "ill advised" statements, but in that respect he isn't all that different than McCain. The more thoughtful, however, should be concerned. Biden is a pretty good counter to McCain in most respects.

A great choice. "

hear ye wrote on Aug 23, 2008 1:05 PM:

" Great speech by Biden today. He is going to do the tough talking that Obama is reluctant to get involved in. I'm excited. "

Lee wrote on Aug 23, 2008 1:55 PM:

" Hi, I think most of you who are talking trash about Senator Biden are mostly "blowing hot air". I guess you can't think of reasonable things to say. I think Biden was an excellent choice. I wish to remind each and every one of you who think that Obama has no experience with foreign diplomacy, that guess what, neither did GWBush. "

Winewoman wrote on Aug 23, 2008 3:06 PM:

" Haha - can't wait to hear all of the Biden-isms. His verbal gaffes are almost as bad as Bushs - I said almost. "

Raven wrote on Aug 23, 2008 3:34 PM:

" okay, I know I am going to regret this, but I have to ask you, jwk.....how is Biden anti-American again? (kind of like a moth drawn to a fire sometimes) "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 23, 2008 5:19 PM:

" hear ye wrote on Aug 23, 2008 1:05 PM:
" .....I'm excited. "

We all know that... I'll buy the popcorn... :-) "

JustMy$.02 wrote on Aug 23, 2008 6:44 PM:

" Wow, Obama spends the better part of this year campaiging against the 'washington establishment' and goes and picks just such a person.
And you dems buy it hook - line - and sinker.
Amazing "

a teacher wrote on Aug 23, 2008 7:37 PM:

" JustMy$.02: How is Biden any less an insider than McCain? "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 23, 2008 7:50 PM:

" Stick Obama with a fork...He's done..... "

freeport56 wrote on Aug 23, 2008 8:20 PM:

" Joe Biden;;Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha......



Great Obama and Biden, maybe they will stick each others foot in their mouths, or is that above their pay grade. Ha Ha Ha Ha "

kevin wrote on Aug 23, 2008 8:21 PM:

" Good point, justmy2cents. If B.O. is all about "change", how DOES having a Washington "insider" help him with his message? "

JustMy$.02 wrote on Aug 23, 2008 8:26 PM:

" a teacher, I didnt say he was. I was just found it sad/funny/ironic that Obama chooses an insider as his VP.

Dont you find find it ironic? All that Obama posturing against the 'establishment' and then this pick?

I agree with Dwayne, stick a fork in him, hes done "

plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Aug 23, 2008 9:45 PM:

" Bush had Cheney as his pit bull, so Obama liked that idea so much he got pit bull Biden for himself.

So much for the promise of change . . . "

a teacher wrote on Aug 23, 2008 10:26 PM:

" $.02: I don't find it ironic because i don't buy your premise. A president governs by hiring smart people to help him. Biden is a smart guy with lots of experience in getting things done.

PPF: If Biden is Obama's Cheney, then that would be a good change. "

plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Aug 23, 2008 11:28 PM:

" That is certainly a matter of opinion. Biden clearly is going to be the boss of that partnership. "

jmo wrote on Aug 23, 2008 11:32 PM:

" Hey a teacher,
Have tou checked out Wikapedia re Joe Biden?
See the comments re his 1988 run for the PRESIDENCY!!!. WOW just what I want for a VP someone who selectively uses others words with out credit/ lies about class ranking, need I go on.....check it out.
JCAM I hope you poeple are smarter than that for who you want gto be #2. "

russ wrote on Aug 23, 2008 11:35 PM:

" Biden has been in the Senate for more than half his life.

Change

Phony "

a teacher wrote on Aug 24, 2008 1:33 AM:

" JMO: I did. So? Sounds like most of the people I've met. I would imagine an ego and a talent for self promotion is an asset to politicians. You're not going to claim republicans tell the truth are you?

ppf: I see no evidence that Obama is anything but his own man. I doubt that he would take a vice president who would dominate.

Russ: So Biden has been in the senate ten years longer than McCain. I guess McCain can't claim the edge in experience any more...

Puff up and bluster all you want republicans, Biden was a good choice and now you have mre to worry about. "

hear ye wrote on Aug 24, 2008 2:15 AM:

" come on, don't take the bait, you know these guys were going to spin this as a negative no matter what. Biden was a great choice. Bottom line. "

jmo wrote on Aug 24, 2008 10:46 AM:

" a teacher: no way would i claim that republicans didn't lie. I think most politicans regardless of party affiliation tell the truth and nothing but the truth. "

Sandra wrote on Aug 24, 2008 11:41 AM:

" I am sure Biden will certainly provide many "special" moments. I expect this presidential race will be extremely entertaining. I listened to the speech hear ye refers to. I found it far from great, but full of talking points and little content. I was struck by the fervent response from the crowd, when the content was just not there that would of provoked such a response from me. In fact I found it to be a little alarming. I have seen this type of response quite often in Obama followers. I think many forget...He is a politician, and you really should not be so quick to accept any of them on face value. Have we become so desperate as a country for easy answers that we will except any platitudes and turn them into much more than they actually are? This was certainly what I saw in Biden's speech, and the crowds response. "

russ wrote on Aug 24, 2008 3:01 PM:

" teacher,

Biden is a good choice but is inconsistent with Obama's fundamental theme and priority. CHANGE

Shows that Obama is just another politician, no better than any other.

It will be fun to watch Biden closely, he is a battler, and will put his foot in his mouth so often that the quotes will be memorable.

I hope that Romney is McCain's choice. I think Mitt will outclass Joe. "

Joe wrote on Aug 24, 2008 6:11 PM:

" It's funny how similar the names Obama and Biden looks to Osama Bin Laden. Not to mention Obamas middle name of Hussien. "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 24, 2008 7:35 PM:

" This has got to be the stupidest election in history, or at least in my 64 years...

I this the best this country has to offer...??? We're going down the toilet folks..... "

Skip M. wrote on Aug 24, 2008 8:25 PM:

" Impeach Obama and Biden "

bettye wrote on Aug 24, 2008 8:34 PM:

" All of you McCain backers need to review some of his many "mistakes he has made in speeches .. remember when Joe ( Turncoat ) Liebermam had to correct him on a comment about a country he was talking about ?? And you want to fault Obama on a comment he made about being in 56 states ?? He was talking about being on the road so much that he couldn't remember where all he had been ( kinda making a joke ) You people are unbelievable ..scraping the "bottom of the barrel" to try to get some dirt on Obama.. McCain is so old he SCARES me .. he is confused most of the time. I am sure he is a good person ,but we are in trouble ( even more so than now ) if he gets elected. "

hear ye wrote on Aug 24, 2008 9:17 PM:

" Well played Skip. I knew it was coming but I hadn't seen you around for awhile "

funnyme wrote on Aug 24, 2008 9:18 PM:

" Joe,
I am roflol...The similarities...OK, "coincidences" are rather scary...
:)

bettye,
I agree, it's really scary.
Keep a light on when you go to bed now.
Good night! "

plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Aug 24, 2008 10:02 PM:

" It has been said that Obama wanted to pick someone to balance things out, so if Biden is a battler (and we know O's staff has been pushing him to be more of a fighter) then Obama needed someone like Biden to pick up the rhetoric challenge. Then St. Obama can play the high road. So from that standpoint it was a good selection.

But it may not be the winning selection. Already some Clintonites are highly annoyed (to say the least) and St. Obama needs them to win. Oh this is such good comedy - SNL at its best couldn't do this stuff. "

C'mon reg get it right wrote on Aug 25, 2008 10:05 AM:

" As a middle of the road guy it's entertaining to see the extremes go ape*@#$ over the canidates. It seems even more so when we've had the same person in for 8 years. GOPers went completely goo-goo for BushII after 8 years of Clinton. Though this time around whoever wins will be better than Bush so maybe were getting a little better at choosing a leader. "

FerrariGTC wrote on Aug 25, 2008 11:07 AM:

" At this time of the nation's economic malaise it would be the highest folly to bring on a Senator with Biden's record on the personal bankruptcy confronting millions of Americans on the verge of losing their homes and their personal savings.

Bankruptcy is the last defense of Americans who have lost everything to clear the slate and start anew. At this time in the nations history with millions on the verge of losing their homes and having their life's savings destroyed because of Wall Street's CDO Ponzi Scheme that grossly enriched the few on Wall Street while impoverishing the nation, Joe Biden stands out as the Democratic Senator whose diligent work helped the credit card moguls revise the the nation's bankruptcy laws so that Americans would stay on the hook to their debtors for years on end as they tried to scratch together a new life. It was a Bill that was signed with alacrity and applauded loudly by the credit card industry and banking interests as President Bush, that symbol of an American legend pulling himself up by the bootstraps, was putting ink to paper. "

FerrariGTC wrote on Aug 25, 2008 11:08 AM:

" CONT...

The credit card industry has for years attempted to have our bankruptcy laws amended and with the Bush administration found a willing partner that would bring "discipline" to the daily lives of the American family's household budget. Let Wall Street run roughshod, let the oil interests allow Maine to freeze -- that was OK. But the credit card establishment wanted their last ounce. The administration needed help on the Democratic side of the aisle. Bingo, their was Senator Biden. MBNA, the "Credit-card juggernaut had been the biggest proponent of the legislation and among the largest donors to his campaign" (NYPost 8/24/08- "Life of Gaffes...") with political contributions of $214,000 and according to the non partisan Center of Responsive Politics, the finance and credit industry was contributing $300,000. And were that not enough, one of MBNA's executives reportedly purchased Biden's home in for $1.2 million in 1996. Ah, the privileges of a garnish free existence.

Well, if your out there and about to lose your home and your savings, don't worry. Senator Biden is standing at your side! "

mominapa wrote on Aug 25, 2008 1:13 PM:

" I was a Hillary supporter for president and was hoping she would be chosen as Obama's running mate. I'm good with Biden, though. He was actually my third choice for president after Hillary and Barack. Looking forward to a good election and a good four years with Obama/Biden running the show. At least we won't have to look at Bush and his crowd anymore. Any change would be an improvement. "

Sandra wrote on Aug 25, 2008 8:02 PM:

" Bettye, unless they have been under a rock, everyone knows the 56, (I heard 57) state thing is a joke, just like Mcain's comments about $4,000,000 being the cut off for rich. People keep brining it up cause it is just to darn fun seeing people get their panties in a twist over this stuff. Get 'em untwisted and lighten up, will ya? And you must be pretty darn young if someone Mcains age scares you. I would suggest staying away from retirment centers....Perhaps we should call them Houses of Horror? "

russ wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:04 PM:

" ferrari dude,

Don't you think that people should pay their credit card bills? "

bettye wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:26 PM:

" My underware is very comfortable,most of the time Thank you, and I happen to be in my 70's THAT is why I am afraid of the OLD person with the short fuse trying to run this country .. I think it is a job too big and stressful for someone that age.( By the way I retired from state service , having worked over 26 years with OLD PEOPLE ) I love 'em , especially since I am one myself now.. I just don't think this guy is competent to run this country
.. That is just an OLD person's view .. now, excuse me while I straighten my panties !! "

bettye wrote on Aug 25, 2008 11:55 PM:

" re: My entry earlier about the confusion of McCain on some issues was the one that he stated "Iran is training al Quida and sending them back to Iraq", Lieberman leaned over and corrected him ..then he stated it was "extremist" that Iran was training.. .just a little mistake ,but had it been a Democrat the GOP would have been on it like a "cheap suit".. For example .. Obama introducing Biden as President .. Fox news ? had a Field Day with that Why can't they just stick to the grave issues that are facing us and stop this tearing the other party apart ?? "

shareathought wrote on Aug 26, 2008 9:31 AM:

" When reading these guidelines:

"• Keep comments clear, concise and focused on the topic in the story.

• Refrain from personal attacks, degrading comments or remarks that do not add to a constructive dialogue."

And these extra notes:

"-- A couple notes here, if you try to make this an attack on any person, your comment is going to be deleted.

-- John McCain supporters have a reader forum for their candidate also, so post the McCain comments there. The link is on this Web page."

It would seem that after a poster gets to a half-dozen or a dozen negative comments, the editor could create a forum, just for individuals who post as if they were a kid in the schoolyard name-calling rather then contributing to a "constructive dialogue". "

Sandra wrote on Aug 26, 2008 9:42 AM:

" OK Bettye, I stand corrected. I guess I am the young whipper snapper in this instance....That doesn't happen very often. BUT, I know many people your age with sharp minds and good health that I think could handle the job as well as the next guy, and add to it a level of wisdom lacking in younger people. As for McCains statements... true they were Shiite militants and not Al Qaeda....but muslim militants never the less. As for sticking to issues...I am with you on that one. In an ideal world, they would. Bettye, you have to know by now, this is NOT an ideal world. "

marine1/1 wrote on Aug 26, 2008 1:10 PM:

" Again, where is the 14obama? This conversation must be over his head! This has got to be one of the worst elections on record. Dwayne : You keep me laughing.I like your comments. "

kevin wrote on Aug 26, 2008 3:21 PM:

" Well, well, well.

The Gallop tracking poll now has had 3 full days since B.O. named his "establishment" running mate and we have the numbers indicating how well the voters think of the decision...


... McCain is NOW UP 2 POINTS OVER B.O.!!!

First time on the Gallop poll this has happened since June.

GOOD JOB B.O.! Same type of choices you would make as President, I'm sure... "

Raven wrote on Aug 26, 2008 6:07 PM:

" nice numbers for McCain but the thing to remember, as we learned in the 2000 election, is we don't have a national election, we have 50 state elections and the electoral vote polling shows Obama well ahead of McCain, by as many as 50 electoral votes. "

marine1/1 wrote on Aug 27, 2008 1:08 PM:

" With the choices Obama has, I don't think it will matter who he picks for his V.P. Are you willing to turn over our military to someone with no experience on how the military works or is run? He'll be a puppet on a string and that will not be fair to our brave men and women serving in this mess over sea's. Once we do have a new President, we will of course be tested by Iran,Iraq,Korea and even Russia. I would prefer someone who know's how to stand and properly use our military if need be. How about it 14obama? "

ADark1 wrote on Aug 27, 2008 4:50 PM:

" I've decided as long as kevin is going to call Obama B.O. Then he shouldn't mind if people call his candidate Mc Same, Mc Fuddled,McBush,Mc Switch, Mc Flip Flop,Mc Grandpa, Mc Stupid, Mc Hothead and all the rest.
As for me? I'll call them by their names.

BTW kevin..take a look at the polls now...seems your candidates lead has evaporated already. You also fail to note that when it comes to those 18 to 34, Obama blows out Mc Cain faster then the reaction of prune Juice to a geriatrics bowel movements! "

a teacher wrote on Aug 27, 2008 6:58 PM:

" Marine 1/1: The founding fathers thought that the military should be under civilian control. Many presidents never served in the military. Many served in the militia and never saw combat.

Neither Wilson nor Franklyn Roosevelt served in the military. Lincoln's military service amounted to a few months in the Illinois Militia during the Black hawk War (He wrote that his war experience amounted to chasing Indians and burying bodies).

History just doesn't support the advantage of the "warrior president". "

Ruff Limblog wrote on Aug 28, 2008 2:28 AM:

" Hmmm, today the whispers were Pawlenty.

I'll oblige kevin on the name-calling... I'm not squeimish.

;o)

I don't think John Dubya McBush will be able to steal Obama's thunder tomorrow by announcing his VP choice.

After all, very few people can remember something important like who won last year's Superbowl?

I mean who was Bob Dole's running mate?

No surer way to oblivion than being the VP running mate with that guy 'what's his name' who lost.

~Ruff "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 28, 2008 8:28 AM:

" Biden is the first white male affirmative-action pick selected solely because of his race and gender...

Talk about pandering..... "

Ruff Limblog wrote on Aug 28, 2008 5:14 PM:

" So Tell me, Dwayne...

Do you REALLY think that candidate bashing on a Democratic thread is going to work this year?

Most of us have heard all the accusations of 'terrorist fist bumps', middle name 'Hussein', 'secret muslim', 'halfrican-American' yadda-yadda-yadda, now haven't we?

The Democrats nominated Barack Obama and Joe Biden in spite of all the 'advice' from Republicans...

It's sad that y'all don't have anything positive to say about your candidate so you concentrate on criticizing our candidate on our thread.

So I'll say something nice about John McCain on the Democratic thread for you!

John McCain showed some REAL CLASS today by running an ad congratulating Barack Obama on getting the Democratic nomination.

I am just going to leave it at that.

Perhaps Obama and McCain can discuss the issues without all the nastiness for just a bit, McCain has set a good example today that many of his 'supporters' could contemplate.

In the spirit of good clean fun, I'm going to 'be nice' during the RNC and listen to Republicans tell us what they like about McCain without sarcasm... unless -- I see the usual stuff here on the Democratic thread.

So, Dwayne, until the 'Christmas Ceasefire' ends, and the siege guns get rolled out again.

Cheers!!!

~Ruff "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 28, 2008 5:55 PM:

" Ruff Limblog wrote on Aug 28, 2008 5:14 PM:
" So Tell me, Dwayne...

Do you REALLY think that candidate bashing on a Democratic thread is going to work this year?...."

Bashing, sure, but name-calling like you do, no... If you have no respect for Bush, then you ought to respect the Office enough to refrain.... Campaigns are traditionally about bashing....

Biden has accomplished nothing to earn this position except being a white guy and a liberal...

Excuse me now, while I head for the TV to kneel before the Great Obama... Maybe I'll have a spiritual epiphany during his little speech..... My eyes will rol back in my head, and I'll moan, "Obama-Obama-Obama," until my wife calls 911... "

Raven wrote on Aug 28, 2008 9:15 PM:

" Dwayne, you kill me...so funny....ha ha ha.....oh wait.....you were serious?

so first Obama doesn't have enough experience...and now Biden, with close to three decades doesn't either....but I suppose McCain's 24 years in the Senate is the right kind of experience? "

Hear Ye wrote on Aug 28, 2008 10:39 PM:

" Dwayne-


you're not making a shred of sense with these last few posts. "

ADark1 wrote on Aug 29, 2008 12:57 AM:

" Dwayne?


Its ok we do have a few bloggers here that can help with the mental health issues...:)

naw its ok dude I'll buy you a glass of whatever at BM2..Seems to me you're gonna need it! LOL way too funny! "

Ruff Limblog wrote on Aug 29, 2008 6:33 AM:

" Dwayne must be the Republican equivalent of the rumored PUMAs who were going to create 'Operation Chaos' at the Democratic National Convention to make Rush Limbaugh happy.

Unlike his 'supporters', John McCain showed some REAL CLASS with his ad congratulating Barack Obama on the day of his nomination.

Dwayne? Not so much...

Not that I was worried that the 'Usual Suspects' would show any class beyond low class and make me be a 'good boy' for long. It didn't even take 24 hours, and now I feel free to rejoin the Republican VP and Convention thread.

It's going to be fun watching the destruction of the party of torturing prisoners, stealing our money, and violating the US Constitution destroy itself!!! With 'supporters' like the 'Usual Suspects' the abyss draws nigh.

~Ruff "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 29, 2008 6:53 AM:

" Anything to keep it humorous....

I'm looking forward to BM2, and I hope it's before the election, not after, if ya know what I mean... Half the people there are gonna be ticked off... "

izzy wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:33 AM:

" Nope, I was wrong...it's Gov. Sarah Palin from Alaska! "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 29, 2008 9:44 AM:

" The Dems threw Hillary under the bus, and McCain's choice is absolutely brilliant...

Palin is more qualified than Obama is... Haaa... "

Ruff Limblog wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:09 AM:

" Well, it's Sarah Palin.

Most of us know that few people vote for the Presidential nominee because of their VP running mate.

The common wisdom is that the VP running mate is supposed to be the 'attack dog' and say things while the party's presidential nominee is supposed to be 'above the fray'.

I frankly don't know much about Sarah Palin as an 'attack dog'. But she is involved in a scandal involving retaliation against her sister's ex-husband already. It would seem that the Republican vindictiveness we all know about even extends all the way to Alaska.

I'll be doing more research... but what I have read so far tells me that Sarah Palin is already damaged goods.

~Ruff "

kevin wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:48 AM:

" So what's up with the McCain VP blog? Why isn't it running? Is the NVR Liberal bias showing again??

Hillary must be going nuts with the Sarah Palin pick! All the efforts she is expending to undercut B.O. so she can run again in 2012 and NOW she is going to have to run against ANOTHER WOMAN?

It just isn't FAIR!! "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 29, 2008 11:43 AM:

" Palin was born Sarah Louise Heath in Sandpoint, Idaho, the daughter of Sarah (née Sheeran), a school secretary, and Charles R. Heath, a science teacher and track coach.[2][3] She has English, Irish, and German ancestry.[2] Her family moved to Alaska when she was an infant.[3] The Heaths were avid outdoors enthusiasts; Sarah and her father would sometimes wake at 3 a.m. to hunt moose before school, and the family regularly ran 5 km and 10 km races.[3]

At Wasilla High School in Wasilla, Alaska, Palin was the head of the school Fellowship of Christian Athletes.[3] She was the point guard and captain for the basketball team. She helped the team win the Alaska small-school championship in 1982, hitting a critical free throw in the last seconds, despite a stress fracture in her ankle.[3] She earned the nickname "Sarah Barracuda" because of her intense play,[3] and was the leader of team prayer before games.[3]

In 1984, after winning the Miss Wasilla contest earlier that year, Palin finished second in the Miss Alaska beauty pageant[4] which won her a scholarship to help pay her way through college.[3] In the Wasilla pageant, she played the flute and also won Miss Congeniality.[5][6]

Palin holds a bachelor's degree in journalism from the University of Idaho where she also minored in politics. "

Hear Ye wrote on Aug 29, 2008 12:11 PM:

" Obama blows Palin out of the water in experience. So much for that argument against Obama. "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 29, 2008 12:26 PM:

" Hear Ye wrote on Aug 29, 2008 12:11 PM:
" Obama blows Palin out of the water in experience. So much for that argument against Obama. "

List Obama's accomplishments, please.... Palin is more qualified then Obama....

In his speech he used the word "I" about 50 times, then said the election was not about him. HAAAAAAA..... "

Hear Ye wrote on Aug 29, 2008 12:57 PM:

" Palin was a mayor of a town roughly the size of St. Helena and has been Governor of Alaska for a year and a half. Heck, let's throw Jill Techel into Arnolds office for a year and she's ready for the white house. Nevermind having any experience or education in national and/or international affairs. Picking Palin may or may not be a good pick politically but it brings serious LOL's when you guys try to talk experience now. "

plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Aug 29, 2008 1:08 PM:

" Obama has done very little in the Senate, while Palin has been a very active Governor. So while her experience may still not be enough, she's on the ticket as VP and will get the experience very quickly. She's a smart lady and not a socialist. Works for me. "

luv1mom wrote on Aug 29, 2008 1:19 PM:

" For the last 24 years, it has either been a Bush or a Clinton in the White House, and for that reason, I have never been riveted by any of those elections. I think I am not alone when I say that a fresh face like Obama, his understanding of middle class working people and our struggles is long overdue in the White House. He and his family are people I can relate to. I cannot relate to McCain or his over-the-top-wealthy wife who can't even count the number of homes they have on a moment's notice. Biden is the cherry on top. I am truly excited to see them in the White House. "

Hear Ye wrote on Aug 29, 2008 4:40 PM:

" Biden has been perfect so far. I know he still has plenty of time to put his foot in his mouth but he is capable of destroying Palin in the debate. She is going to have to take an intensive class on national and international politics. McCain should be making flash cards as we speak. "

kevin wrote on Aug 29, 2008 6:41 PM:

" I'm already taking a liking to Sarah!

The Dem's are having an apoplectic fit about her selection!

That's GOT to be a GOOD sign! "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:03 PM:

" luv1mom wrote on Aug 29, 2008 1:19 PM:
" For the last 24 years, it has either been a Bush or a Clinton in the White House...."

Ummmm...You might wanna Wikipedia that to confirm the math and dates...

Just sayin'.... ;) "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:55 PM:

" I wouldn't vote for Obama for any reason, but have been looking for a reason to vote FOR McCain... Sarah is it...!!! "

Hear Ye wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:51 PM:

" Palin was a reactionary pick. Once the buzz of the surprise wears off people will see her for what she really is. Is she the most ready to be president the republicans can offer. That's sad. "

Napasnapper wrote on Aug 30, 2008 9:02 AM:

" Never could stand biden....the number two reason the Democrats' ticket will not win. "

a teacher wrote on Aug 30, 2008 9:13 AM:

" I am delighted with McCain's choice. I was afraid that he would go with Romney. The more I listen to her, the happier I am. "

diehard4ever wrote on Aug 30, 2008 12:22 PM:

" kevin-
I couldn't get into my blog either! A lot of the opinion section was wiped out. Wonder why. Anyone know?

Hear Ye-
I know this is old news, but you text??? "

Hear Ye wrote on Aug 30, 2008 3:00 PM:

" Diehard4ever-

I'm not a hundred percent sure what your asking me.

If your asking if i post comments via text on my phone then the answer is yes, occasionally. "

diehard4ever wrote on Aug 30, 2008 8:41 PM:

" Hear Ye-
Not exactly. A while ago you said you got the conformational text that Obama's VP was Biden. It was sorta a random question. "

Hear Ye wrote on Aug 30, 2008 10:51 PM:

" Diehard-

Yea I got the text from the Obama Camp. The VP pick had already been leaked and was all over the news a few hours before I got the text though so it was pretty lackluster.

I text quite a bit in my day to day life. "

musikluvr wrote on Aug 31, 2008 2:42 PM:

" He picked Joe Biden who dissed Obama in the primaries? Oh, I know we're supposed to forget he didn't like Obama then. This is like a 3rd grade girls argument. "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 31, 2008 5:16 PM:

" The Dems are afraid of a girl on the ticket....

Years ago it was because one of them cried, and this time Biden cried... Wow... That's all we need is one who looses it when they get emotional...

Sarah's gonna kick Biden's butt in the debate..... "

Hear Ye wrote on Aug 31, 2008 5:31 PM:

" I agree with Musikluvr in the sense that it does indeed take a 3rd grade mentality to not understand the difference between campaigning and rallying around your nominee. "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 31, 2008 6:01 PM:

" Hear Ye wrote on Aug 31, 2008 5:31 PM:
" I agree with Musikluvr in the sense that it does indeed take a 3rd grade mentality to not understand the difference between campaigning and rallying around your nominee. "

Traditionally, that's called being 'two-faced'... Political expediency is pure phony... Phony..... "

a teacher wrote on Aug 31, 2008 6:38 PM:

" Dream on, Dwayne... "

Dwayne wrote on Aug 31, 2008 8:18 PM:

" a teacher wrote on Aug 31, 2008 6:38 PM:
" Dream on, Dwayne... "

You read it wrong... Don't forget which side you're on... ;) "

a teacher wrote on Sep 1, 2008 7:48 AM:

" Oh, good comeback, Dwayne, I've been "served"...

Seriously, why should Biden be afraid of her? All she has is charisma, grit and a good back story. Biden has that AND he knows a thing or two about the job he is running for. I don't think it will be a fair fight. "

Dwayne wrote on Sep 1, 2008 8:33 AM:

" a teacher wrote on Sep 1, 2008 7:48 AM:
".....why should Biden be afraid of her?.....I don't think it will be a fair fight. "

In our society, it never is fair when a man beats up on a woman... All she has to do is goad him into losing it, which the gaff-machine Biden frequently does, and he's toast. Either because he went too far, or didn't go far enough because he was afraid of the perception of beating her up (verbally)...

She has more than a "good story"... She has a track record of being a competitive fighter... Biden's gonna need a good dose of something before the debate to keep himself in check... "

kevin wrote on Sep 1, 2008 9:29 AM:

" I would expect Palin to bring up Biden's past comments that he didn't WANT to be VP... "

Raven wrote on Sep 1, 2008 10:32 AM:

" I would predict Biden wont even try to 'beat up' on her....all he has to do is give good solid answers to the questions and let the moderator, PBS's Gwen Ifill, do the work for him by asking her the same questions. "

a teacher wrote on Sep 1, 2008 7:55 PM:

" So Dwayne, let me get this straight. You're saying that she will rely on the sexist attitude that women need protection.

While doing so, she will appeal to the scorned women supporters of Ms. Clinton (who are fairly feminist)?

WOW! A trifecta - cynical, delusional and foolish. "

Dwayne wrote on Sep 2, 2008 7:06 AM:

" a teacher wrote on Sep 1, 2008 7:55 PM:
" So Dwayne, let me get this straight. You're saying that she will rely on the sexist attitude that women need protection. "

Nope, I'm saying that Biden may be the one who needs protecting, form a gal who knows how to play "the old boys" game... :) "

luv1mom wrote on Sep 2, 2008 12:09 PM:

" Dwayne - my bad, should be Bush and Clinton in office for the last 20 years. Still toooo damn long of no new blood. "

musikluvr wrote on Sep 2, 2008 1:13 PM:

" The democrats are self destructing - again. They already destroyed each other during the campaign - then Obama picked a guy who hated him in the campaign. Go ahead - like it, an easy election win for the republicans is a good thing. "

Hear Ye wrote on Sep 2, 2008 2:25 PM:

" Musikluvr-


All the major polls are pointing and laughing at your comment that this is an easy win for the Republican ticket. This is going to be a close race and as matter of fact would be a win for the Democrats if the election were today. "

Raven wrote on Sep 2, 2008 2:52 PM:

" so, musiklover...explain to me how mending fences with someone who ran against you is self-destructive?..

To judge from everything I have seen, the party is more solidly behind Obama/Biden ticket than they were before the convention... "

luv1mom wrote on Sep 3, 2008 11:42 AM:

" musikluvr - In my view, Obama picking "a guy who hated him in the campaign" shows me that Obama wants what is best for the country, and wants to choose an administration that will best serve the citizens of our nation which is their JOB. It shows me "country first" unlike the repubs who say it, but don't demonstrate. Seems if anyone was destructive to the dems it was Hillary's never ending quest. "

kevin wrote on Sep 3, 2008 6:47 PM:

" OUCH! From the Washington Post...

Sen. Barack Obama sought more than $3.4 million in congressional earmarks for clients of the lobbyist son of his Democratic running mate, Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, records show. Obama succeeded in getting $192,000 for one of the clients, St. Xavier University in suburban Chicago. "

kevin wrote on Sep 3, 2008 6:50 PM:

" Kids, what's a parent to do...

from the Washington post:

A son and a brother of Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.) are accused in two lawsuits of defrauding a former business partner and an investor of millions of dollars in a hedge fund deal that went sour, court records show. "

Hear Ye wrote on Sep 3, 2008 11:13 PM:

" SUPER OUCH! from every major news source

Sarah Palin, not anyone in her family, is being investigated for ethics violations.


Palin, the republican proclaimed "reformer", now discovered to have secured $27 million in earmarks for her hometown of 6500 people and has requested $200 million in earmarks for her state this year. A modest reduction from the ~$260 million she requested last year. More earmark money per person than any other state in our great country. A practice McCain has called "disgraceful". "

vocal-de-local wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:58 AM:

" My contribution to this discussion is this: My parents have been diehard Republicans their entire lives, yet they are voting for Obama, and so are many of their Republican friends. They perceive both Bush and Palin as unstable people. They feel betrayed by the Republican party which leaves them feeling a greater sense of security with the Obama/Biden match. I suppose if McCain had selected a moderate running mate, they may have been pulled back. They consider themselves "Rockefeller Republicans" and have problems with extreme conservative views. McCain may have won the pulpit but he weakened the Republican foundation. I have a feeling that many of you feel the same way as my parents do about this situation. I know that some of you will probably never admit it, but you must feel, on some level that Palin was an impulsive and poor choice. "

kevin wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:20 AM:

" Poor Biden. Sounds like HE might be the one losing out. CNN is asking whether or not HE should be REPLACED as VP!

Just think about it, if B.O. had accepted Hillary as VP, Sarah would not have been selected by McCain... "

vocal-de-local wrote on Sep 5, 2008 12:37 PM:

" Just think about it, if B.O. had accepted Hillary as VP, Sarah would not have been selected by McCain... "

You're probably right about that Kevin.

Here's what annoys me most. I'm troubled that some women are being used as pawns in this election game. Hilary is appreciated, not so much because she is a "woman", but because of "who" she is. Palin was not selected for the "who" that she is, but rather the "what" that she stands for in the sense of fulfilling a gender quota. It's quite a leap for McCain to assume that women are so "stupid" that they will follow the gender link simply because it's something they can identify with. Women have greater depth and complexity than that. They're not just sheep who follow a gender trail. Does McCain value women just because they fit into a certain gender mold? Sounds like it. "

Sandra wrote on Sep 6, 2008 9:55 AM:

" vocal de local...Hmmmm your last post brings to mind Geraldine Ferraro's words about Obama.... I could call you quite sexist because you belittle who she is in your claim that she was put on the ticket for what she is.
I like to think I am smart, have depth, and complexity. I see right through you, and the sentiment you put forth.
It is also very interesting to me that you can see into John McCains mind. With that ability, maybe you should be running for President. "

freeport56 wrote on Sep 10, 2008 8:47 AM:

" "The struggle to defeat the ultra-Right and turn our country on a positive path will not end with Obama's election. But that step will shift the ground for successful struggles going forward. ... One thing is clear. None of the people’s struggles — from peace to universal health care to an economy that puts Main Street before Wall Street — will advance if McCain wins in November. Let’s keep our eyes on the prize."



— Communist Party USA's People’s Weekly World editorial endorsing Barack Obama as the Communist candidate for President of the United States "

kevin wrote on Sep 10, 2008 9:23 PM:

" Who would have figured that Mommar Kadafy would get it right!

"There are elections in America now. Along came a black citizen of Kenyan African origins, a Muslim, who had studied in an Islamic school in Indonesia. His name is Obama. All the people in the Arab and Islamic world and in Africa applauded this man. They welcomed him and prayed for him and for his success, and they may have even been involved in legitimate contribution campaigns to enable him to win the American presidency."

Well B.O. DID say he would make America welcome to the world again... "

kevin wrote on Sep 11, 2008 8:21 AM:

" As if we need any additional proof that B.O. made the WRONG choice for VP, NOW we have Biden himself saying that B.O. should have picked Hillary!

September 11, 2008

BOSTON -- Joe Biden said Wednesday that Hillary Clinton might have been a better choice for the Democratic ticket.

Biden was defending Clinton after a questioner at a fund-raiser said he was glad she wasn't selected as Barack Obama's running mate.

''Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States,'' Biden said. ''She is qualified to be president of the United States of America. She is easily qualified to be vice president of the United States of America, and quite frankly, might've been a better pick than me.''

Clinton lost to Obama in the party primary and some of her backers have resisted embracing Obama. AP "

Hear Ye wrote on Sep 12, 2008 6:41 AM:

" Kevin-


You're a little late with this stuff. We already got to laugh at the other people that posted this junk a couple days ago. "

kevin wrote on Sep 12, 2008 5:07 PM:

" It's worth reading again, Hear Ye. I ALMOST hope Biden gets elected just for the laughs he will provide.

The guys an idiot!

Did you see the one where he keeps telling the guy in the wheelchair to "get up". You can't make this stuff up! "

luv1mom wrote on Sep 17, 2008 11:26 AM:

" Palin is funnier than Biden . . . but we'll have to laugh now because she won't make it to the White House! "

aleph wrote on Sep 17, 2008 11:35 AM:

" Biden is alright and all, but -I- would have preferred Hillary as the VP. "

robbys22 wrote on Sep 17, 2008 4:00 PM:

" Biden was picked exactly to counter-act those who say Obama lacks experience. Sen. Biden has extensive foreign policy experience, has met with and is respected by leaders of nearly all the key nations in the world, is respected by members of both parties for his honesty and reliability. He brings to the table more alone than McCain and Palin combined. Period. "

kevin wrote on Sep 17, 2008 6:57 PM:

" Picking Biden sure ended the "Change" campaign for B.O.... "

bettye wrote on Sep 18, 2008 2:29 PM:

" Why have we not seen any top name Rep. backing the McCain ticket ? Where is Colin Powell, Newt Gingrich and the high ranking Sen and Congressmen . I just heard that Chuck Hagel is for Obama now .. Anyone who cares about this Nation sees the "handwriting
on the wall" and knows the McCain ticket is going to lead to more of the same (past 8 years) As for Rothschild (Clinton's supporter ) going over to McCain ...who is she ? and what difference does she make ? I would take Chuck Hagel's endorsement any day rather than someone hardly any average American has heard of .. "

luv1mom wrote on Sep 18, 2008 2:47 PM:

" Congressman Wayne Gilchrest, Republican from Maryland, and Richard Riordan, Republican, former mayor of Los Angeles, are also supporting Obama/Biden. "

kevin wrote on Sep 18, 2008 9:00 PM:

" FORMER (RINO) Congressman Wayne Gilchrest. He lost his primary race this year and changed parties in a fit of spite.... "

luv1mom wrote on Sep 19, 2008 9:51 AM:

" Kevin: He is still a republican. Bet if he supported McCain you wouldn't have left that comment. "

Dwayne wrote on Sep 19, 2008 10:29 AM:

" Obama harps about cutting taxes, while his partner in crime says it's patriotic to pay more taxes...

Liberalism is a lie... The mask is coming off..... "

bettye wrote on Sep 19, 2008 1:45 PM:

" Bring out the " Depends" !! I am afraid some of these Rep. are going to need them soon ..... "

Dwayne wrote on Sep 19, 2008 3:36 PM:

" The latest rumor is that on or about Oct 5th, after the VP debate, Biden will make up some phony health excuse (or something), be dropped from the ticket, and he'll be replaced by Hillary... "

Raven wrote on Sep 19, 2008 6:08 PM:

" lol...good one dwayne.....now explain to me how the moon landing was a fake....really reaching a bit arent we?...and your source for this rumor? "

Dwayne wrote on Sep 23, 2008 10:25 AM:

" I'm listening to sound clips of Biden gaffs over the past 24 hours... I'm cracking up... He must be driving Obama nuts...

He's the gift that keeps on giving... Keep 'em coming Joe... You're as good as any Las Vegas comedy act... "

Common Sense wrote on Sep 23, 2008 10:59 AM:

" Wow, now Biden says (on video!) NO new coal plants (not even clean coal!) for the United States. That can't be good for the economy. "

Common Sense wrote on Sep 23, 2008 11:00 AM:

" Joe Biden's denunciation of his own campaign's ad to Katie Couric got so much attention last night that another odd note in the interview slipped by.

He was speaking about the role of the White House in a financial crisis.

"When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed," Biden told Couric. "He said, 'Look, here's what happened.'"

As Reason's Jesse Walker footnotes it: "And if you owned an experimental TV set in 1929, you would have seen him. And you would have said to yourself, 'Who is that guy? What happened to President Hoover?'" "

Hear Ye wrote on Sep 23, 2008 11:01 PM:

" Shall we compare gaffes between McCain and Biden over the last year? That would be fun. "

Dwayne wrote on Sep 25, 2008 10:01 AM:

" Raven wrote on Sep 19, 2008 6:08 PM:
" lol...good one dwayne.....now explain to me how the moon landing was a fake....really reaching a bit arent we?...and your source for this rumor? "

dailymail uk.......

"The internet is buzzing today with the rumour that Barack Obama's gaffe-prone running mate Joe Biden will drop out of the race for health reasons - to be replaced by Hillary Clinton.

John McCain's selection of Sarah Palin as his running mate has created so much interest in the Republicans that Mr Obama will have to make a radical move to regain momentum, the argument goes."

You need to pay closer attention, Raven... "

Hear Ye wrote on Sep 25, 2008 1:35 PM:

" Looks more like Obama didn't have to do anything at all to regain momentum. Just sit back and let people get to know Palin and watch the excitement and buzz dissipate. "

a teacher wrote on Sep 25, 2008 6:18 PM:

" I'll let Dwayne speak for himself. Here he is commenting on the recent letter about Gov. Palin being replaced by the McCain campaign:

"Well, if I was a druggie, I'd want some o' what Sudie's smokin'... That letter is too far out there to be rational... " "

Dwayne wrote on Sep 25, 2008 6:56 PM:

" Hear Ye wrote on Sep 25, 2008 1:35 PM:
" Looks more like Obama didn't have to do anything at all to regain momentum. Just sit back and let people get to know Palin and watch the excitement and buzz dissipate. "

Naaahhh... The Chicago politic elite trashed her from the beginning... Who do you think you're kidding...??? "

Raven wrote on Sep 26, 2008 8:09 AM:

" Palin is doing all the work in showing off her qualifications herself...the elite doesn't have to anything.....btw...just what makes a person a member of the 'elite'?...supporting Obama, being a democrat, being a liberal?.....I am curious "

misfit wrote on Sep 28, 2008 4:00 PM:

" Raven...It's being smart. "

Raven wrote on Sep 28, 2008 7:24 PM:

" ahhh...that is our mistake eh, misfit?..;-) "

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