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hear ye wrote on Aug 16, 2008 12:26 AM:
napablogger wrote on Aug 16, 2008 2:13 AM:
McCain was running an ad saying Obama was going to raise taxes for incomes down to 42K, for one example. Since he has been called on it as a lie, it has quietly dropped off his ads lately.
This book is the lowest yet. At least with Kerry there was some basis for the criticism, this Obama is secretly a Muslim and all the other stuff they are trying to peddle is revolting. "
funnyme wrote on Aug 16, 2008 5:53 AM:
Raven wrote on Aug 16, 2008 7:12 AM:
fmmt47 wrote on Aug 16, 2008 7:13 AM:
Dwayne wrote on Aug 16, 2008 9:09 AM:
Thanks for the laughs, Dan Rather..... "
kevin wrote on Aug 16, 2008 9:24 AM:
John Richards wrote on Aug 16, 2008 11:16 AM:
John Richards wrote on Aug 16, 2008 11:20 AM:
glenroy wrote on Aug 16, 2008 12:59 PM:
About the only media sources Democrat’s don’t control is radio…which incidentally is the only bilateral media left nation wide….they’ve failed miserably to compete on the air waves because their core policies cannot withstand public scrutiny….facts are a dangerous thing to a partisan.
As for Kerry’s Swift boat….when all the officers, and all the sailors on all the other boats that were part of the missions Kerry self proclaimed extraordinary valor, and which to a man claimed Kerry not only failed to complete is mission he turned tailed and ran when he thought he was under enemy fire…‘thought,’ not actually… That can hardly be referred to as being ‘completely’ discredited….but when the libs say it often enough it’s a fact.
….as for snopes…recently they were snooped and found to consistently biased which is sad when they originally founded the site it was a reasonable objective source…and fact checker.com…the DNC official website is the same source….you’ll never find a discrepancy between the two sites…ever.
Besides….since when is turnabout not fair play…. "
Dwayne wrote on Aug 16, 2008 2:07 PM:
" The book has no more factual errors than, for example, Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth". "
Kaaa-Chinngggg.... Haaaaaaa..... "
Bauhausfan wrote on Aug 16, 2008 2:52 PM:
Strange, I never heard of any sound basis for the criticism at all. It was a smear campaign, plain and simple. As you noted they are trying to do it with Obama. "
MarkMathews wrote on Aug 16, 2008 6:35 PM:
russ wrote on Aug 16, 2008 6:54 PM:
Obama fans please post something factual and important. I am open to the facts.
I believe is is deceptive and evasive to attack the messenger instead of the message. "
Raven wrote on Aug 16, 2008 9:51 PM:
Raven wrote on Aug 16, 2008 9:55 PM:
This book is another example of how much the Republican machine really fears Obama when they don't trust and honest debate on the facts to carry their case.... "
russ wrote on Aug 16, 2008 10:31 PM:
So what? Minor detail if so. Is everything else in the book true?
Did you read the book?
I did not. Dates, times, places?
Obama attended a Black Separatist Church for 20 years, true? "
hear ye wrote on Aug 17, 2008 12:13 AM:
Obama has released a 41 page document discrediting this book. You obviously disagree with Obamas stances on many issues which should be enough for you. You don't need to defend a book that is nothing more than a hit job and is really a pathetic attempt by a pathetic man to sway people. I highly suggest reading the Obama response to this book. It will clear everything up for you.
Mark matthews-
Get with the times. The whole swift boat thing has had it's doors blown wide open since that election. Virtually everyone that served on kerrys boat has debunked those claims and every single person who said bad things had either very limited contact with Kerry or is politically opposite of him. Again it takes very little research to find the truth about swift boats for truth propaganda. "
glenroy wrote on Aug 17, 2008 9:59 AM:
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Aug 17, 2008 9:31 PM:
Gore and Moore put forth their collections of staged 'facts' and propaganda and were roundly and justifiably attacked for it. Gore says anyone who doesn't believe him is a 'flat earther' and Moore used his website to lauch attacks on those who pointed out his little um, inconsistencies, rather than issue any kind of factual rebuttal. In other words, they want you to just shut up and believe. Do not think about their teachings, just blindly believe. Yep. That's the first sign of someone who wants you to be a non-thinking zombie follower. I am the great and powerful . . .
I have not read this book yet (I plan to) so I won't comment directly about it. It will be interesting to see what shakes out of it, what sticks and what does not. Since I will not vote for Obama under any circumstance (nor will I vote for McCain), it can't change my mind or my vote. I see the book as just a little entertainment to counter an otherwise incredibly disappointing crop of candidates this election year. "
russ wrote on Aug 19, 2008 3:50 PM:
You say that you will not vote for McCain (or Obama). Are you serious? Are you going to the election of president to the rest of us?
Your creds are in shreds. "
kevin wrote on Aug 19, 2008 4:36 PM:
I may actually read B.O.'s response, just to see who comes accross as correct... "
Raven wrote on Aug 19, 2008 7:13 PM:
russ wrote on Aug 19, 2008 7:25 PM:
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Aug 20, 2008 9:25 AM:
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Aug 20, 2008 1:01 PM:
kevin wrote on Aug 20, 2008 1:20 PM:
With that kind of thinking, we could end up with the GREATER of two evils as President... "
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Aug 20, 2008 3:20 PM:
I haven't done my homework yet about the libertarian nominee Bob Barr, so I don't know if I can vote for him with a clear conscience or not. So far, I'm not over impressed. Whatever I do with my vote, in California it won't make much difference. Last I saw St. Obama had a commanding lead. "
cab e-girl wrote on Aug 20, 2008 5:41 PM:
kevin wrote on Aug 20, 2008 7:22 PM:
Kind of like a dog I had once that kept running into the street. I finally decided to really teach him a lesson and just let him go one day...
...I miss that dog. "
Ruff Limblog wrote on Aug 21, 2008 1:26 AM:
"This way to the egress!!!" - credited to P.T. Barnum
~Ruff "
cab e-girl wrote on Aug 21, 2008 11:15 AM:
I was making the assumption that voters have a higher IQ than most canines. I like to give my fellow man the benefit of the doubt even though they don't always deserve it. "
kevin wrote on Aug 21, 2008 3:11 PM:
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Aug 21, 2008 8:49 PM:
How do you feel about intelligent flamingos? "
cab e-girl wrote on Aug 22, 2008 12:21 AM:
PPF: Can an intelligent PPF whack gophers in my garden? Because my new kitten hasn't caught on yet. "
glenroy wrote on Aug 22, 2008 12:10 PM:
A plausibly explanation for Obama’s poll numbers dropping like the Coombsville water table could be Obama ‘having to play down to his core supporters intellectual level….’
The past 11 years the planet cooled, but it’s still warming in their minds….polar cap has increase the last 3 years, but it’s still melting faster and faster….and of course the reason for this post, we have roughly 400 years worth of oil in various forms but were running on empty….. "
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Aug 23, 2008 10:10 PM:
Got my Whack-A-Mole hammer ready for action. We haven't had an impeachment thread here for awhile so I need the practice. However, it is more fun to whack lefties than poor little animals! "
misfit wrote on Aug 24, 2008 12:29 AM:
I would like to ask Glenroy and anyone else who feels that drilling is the answer to our prayers, why they weren't out screaming for drilling last year, when gas was a dollar and a half cheaper? All of a sudden we need to drill??? There are leases that are not being drilled...why not? There are no refineries capable of handling any more demand on them. There are no oil rigs and they can't be built in a timely manner. I say let them drill. They won't get it together anyway.
Now...go ahead a blame the Dems...again. Waaah Waaah Waaah. "
kevin wrote on Aug 24, 2008 10:01 AM:
America needs to be proactive in oil exploration and production. Misfit is correct that it takes years to bring new fields into production. The time to start is NOW. We can't allow the Dem's to stand in the way, purely for political purposes.
He says "let them drill" but his leader, Nancy Pelosi, won't even let Congress vote on the issue!
BTW ppf, I LOVE the whack a mole! Keep whacking! "
cab e-girl wrote on Aug 24, 2008 7:13 PM:
cab e-girl wrote on Aug 24, 2008 7:26 PM:
BTW, I like Whack a Mole from PPF, kind of lightens things up. A sense of humor can be a little therapeutic if you let it. "
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Aug 24, 2008 10:13 PM:
But just take a minute to think of it. How would a flamingo (and a plastic one at that) hold a hammer? Impossible. You just have to let your mind come up with strange mental pictures like The Far Side cartoons. Obviously works for me.
Humor has been an American tradition in presidential elections since 1800. And even after elections. I don't know how I would have gotten through the Clinton Years without humor! "
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Aug 24, 2008 10:15 PM:
Raven wrote on Aug 25, 2008 4:58 PM:
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Aug 26, 2008 3:14 PM:
Raven wrote on Aug 26, 2008 7:18 PM:
kevin wrote on Aug 26, 2008 7:33 PM:
cab e-girl wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:14 PM: