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Resort would employ 500; groundbreaking possible in fall
Thursday, July 17, 2008
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Downtown Napa will be putting on the ritz.

After a marathon meeting dominated by labor unions advocating a “living wage” and locals pleading for downtown rejuvenation, the Napa City Council approved a 351-room riverfront Ritz-Carlton resort shortly before 1 a.m. Wednesday.
A Florida-based development company will build a posh five-diamond tourist destination costing more than $200 million at the northwest corner of First Street and Silverado Trail, where not long ago garbage trucks parked at night.

Council members and business leaders bestowed accolades, saying the Ritz-Carlton Napa Valley would generate more than 500 jobs, millions in tax revenues and push downtown’s rebirth to a new level.
Councilman Peter Mott said he was initially disbelieving when he heard that Ritz-Carton, one of the globe’s most prestigious hotel brands, had eyes for Napa’s work-in-progress downtown.

“That’s kind of like the average guy being kissed by the prettiest girl in school. It doesn’t happen,” he said.
“I’m more proud than I can explain,” said Councilman Jim Krider, who said that years of planning and incremental improvements to downtown were finally paying off. “This is the best project I’ve ever seen.”

Harry Price, a long-time downtown developer, said the Ritz-Carlton had enough economic clout to boost downtown’ fortunes. “It will change downtown in a way that a lot of people here tonight have waited for for 20 years,” he said.

Environmentalists applauded the Ritz for promising to build to “green” standards and neighbors praised its quality. But the project was challenged by labor unions and social service agencies who wanted the city to mandate a “living wage” of $15 per hour and affordable health insurance for employees.

Napa lost high-paying blue collar jobs when Mare Island Naval Shipyard and Napa Pipe closed, with lower-paying service jobs taking their place, said Martin Bennett, representing Unite Here, a hotel workers union.

With this luxury project, the City Council has the opportunity to insist on wages and benefits that allow workers to live here without relying on welfare services, Bennett said.

The Napa Valley Coalition of Non-profit Agencies echoed the union position. The city should tell developers that “working families are our priority,” said Bob Orser, the coalition’s executive director.

In unanimously approving the project, council members accepted Ritz-Carlton assurances that its pay and benefits would be at the top of the hotel industry, with training and promotional opportunities that could launch careers.

Hotel representatives said the project would create the equivalent of 524 full-time jobs, with 75 percent of workers coming from Napa County. Some 95 percent of jobs will be full-time, with employer-subsidized benefits. Pay would be at the top of the hotel industry. Many of the lowest-paid workers earning $8.53 to $12.10 per hour will have their wages tripled by tips, Ritz officials said.

Council members showed no desire to negotiate wages as part of project approval. “I truly believe the employees will be well compensated,” Mayor Jill Techel said.

Attorney Kevin Teague, representing the developer, said one project should not have to solve a community-wide economic or social problem.

Of the 41 speakers who pushed the hearing past midnight, only a few were Alta Heights neighbors. Several raised traffic, lighting and noise concerns. The hotel will be required to work with the city and neighbors on plans to reduce traffic and prevent overflow parking in residential areas.

The developer, River House Land Company of Miami, will pay $33,441 toward future improvements to the “Five Corners” intersection of Third Street, Coombsville Road, East Avenue and Silverado. Hotel traffic will add seven seconds to the average wait at evening rush hour, a consultant said.

The developer will pay an additional $1.3 million in traffic mitigation to be used anywhere in the city as well as $15,691 toward the planned extension of Saratoga Drive to Silverado.

Concerns about the project’s impact on housing faded when the developer volunteered to pay an additional $500,000, on top of an original fee of $564,000, toward development of affordable rental housing.

Once open, the hotel will generate $400,000 in annual property tax for affordable housing, city officials said.

Francie Winnen, representing Friends of the Napa River, said the Ritz was a “gigantic leap forward” compared to a 351-room hotel approved for the site in 2002 but never built. The developer said the public will be invited to use Ritz pathways to get to a new length of river trail.

Sustainable Napa Valley and build-it-green advocate Bob Massaro gave the project their blessing after the developer agreed to build to national energy conservation standards. The project aims to be certified by Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design, or LEED.

Councilwoman Juliana Inman said the Ritz was a model project, meeting the city’s economic, environmental and social equity goals. “It covers all the bases in what we need from this project and it’s beautiful to boot,” she said.

“This will be a project that shines spectacularly bright for our community,” Councilman Mark van Gorder said.

The Ritz will be a “village-like” complex of a dozen buildings from one to four stories, with a contemporary Craftsman design, the developer said. Grounds will be lushly landscaped with mostly native plants, with an “art walk” open to the community.

The 2002 hotel project covered seven acres. The new developer acquired three additional acres along First, shifting the main entry to First, opposite Juarez Street. Retail shops and a restaurant will run along the south end.

Cars will be largely invisible, with 590 spaces underground and just 14 above. Valets will park all vehicles. The hotel will need to develop a plan for off-site site parking for the largest events.

Despite the recent infusion of new hotel projects, Napa has not seen anything like the Ritz-Carlton, which will be the city’s biggest and fanciest.

The Ritz-Carlton, which will charge around $500 a night, should generate $4.1 million to $5.9 million a year in taxes for the city when it opens in 2011, an economics study said.

Local building trades asked that the developer use local contractors, rather than bringing in workers from afar as some hotel projects have done.

A spokesman for Bell Products of Napa said his company had a chance to land a contract worth more than $20 million to install ducting and mechanical systems in the Ritz.

Construction will take two years with the possibility of earth moving as early as late fall. The start of construction hinges on the project getting financing in a deteriorating lending market. Although the project was billed as costing $200 million, Techel reported Wednesday that the latest cost estimate may be $270 million.

“These are tough economic times. Can you build it?” Krider said.

“Time continues to be our enemy,” said Brad Weiser, the developer’s managing partner. “Every day’s delay is extremely costly to this project.”

River House Land Company intends to partially finance the project by selling 201 of 351 units as hotel condominiums, which would give the buyer limited visitation rights. Hotel condos in premium locations continue to sell well, Weiser said.

Another unknown is whether Unite Here might attempt to mount a referendum campaign against the Ritz-Carlton as it did last month against a proposed Kimpton hotel on Solano Avenue at Wine Country Avenue.

The city is currently evaluating whether there are enough valid petition signatures to put the 196-room Kimpton on the ballot. The union submitted 5,200 signatures, more than the 3,630 required.

Owen Li, a Unite Here organizer, said his union had nothing to say for now about this possibility.
52 comment(s)

napapete wrote on Jul 16, 2008 8:59 AM:

" This is a great step for Napa...this is one of the sections of town that needs revitilization the most! With hundreds of parking spaces, I can't imagine that this will cause the traffic issues that some people seem to be so worried about. The city of napa is becoming a world class city...I think we as locals should embrace that...it is just making it better for those of us who live here!With the addition of the Ritz, with its river walk, the Napa River is becoming a focus of the city again...now if we can just clean it up somehow! "

Dirty Napkin wrote on Jul 16, 2008 9:04 AM:

" Figures.. "

renrut wrote on Jul 16, 2008 9:07 AM:

" Peter Mott sometimes tells us more than we shuld know. His comment about the prettiest girl not kissing an average guy is such a blunder. I feel so sorry for his wife. I am an average guy and I certainly was kissed and am married to the prettiest girl ever! "

Dhappel54 wrote on Jul 16, 2008 9:23 AM:

" As exciting as this project is on a whole number of levels, I think it's a real shame that the City Council wasn't willing to get those promises about local hiring and living wages. The staff report said that the bulk of the employees would earn between $8/hr and $12/hr and the Ritz HR person said they would "subsidize" health benefits. No detail on the amount of the "subsidy" was provided. "

jenny99 wrote on Jul 16, 2008 9:25 AM:

" Thank you City Council. This will be a great thing for Napa, and all the people who live here. "

marine1/1 wrote on Jul 16, 2008 9:42 AM:

" I still feel sorry for all the bed and breakfast owners in Napa and the valley.It cost them alot of money to get going and with all these new hotels being built in the Napa area, I hope they can still stay in business.Nothing was mentioned about the water consumption that will be used in Napa's newest and biggest hotel. How many more major hotels is Napa going to let in?Traffic is already a mess at silverado and first street and now I can only see it getting worse.We don't need to slow down building in Napa, we need to stop it all together for five years and re-evaluate everything.That proposed 3200 homes on Napa pipe needs to be haulted for sure.That propert is an eye sore but building such a huge hotel might not have been the answer. "

marine1/1 wrote on Jul 16, 2008 9:55 AM:

" Napapete: The napa river is an eyesore to look at and I haven't seen any of you in the city council look for solutions to this problem.Everything is being built with the river in mind but have you looked at it at low tide?Until the mid 1980's I can remember the river being dredged up to the third street bridge and ever since it hasn't been touched that I have seen.I don't dare take my boat in the river anymore.I think the city council should find out how to address our ugly river especially in and aroung the downtown area.What does friends of the river do to address the river.If this is the Peter I think it is you should address this issue at your next city coucil meeting.If you can find millions of dollars to build river trails why not dredge and clean our river? "

wipemedown wrote on Jul 16, 2008 10:12 AM:

" AAAWWW Yeah. Ritz Carlton. kissing pretty girls.... no.... Catch me on the penthouse level kissin on a congac bottle with my arm around a model. "

tired wrote on Jul 16, 2008 11:31 AM:

" here come the cars, the low-wage commuters from vallejo, the hotel managers from all over the state. the ritz sure is lucky that this city is run by developers who are never asked to make any compromises. "

axim wrote on Jul 16, 2008 12:08 PM:

" napapete- perhaps you don't understand the traffic issue. Yes they will have parking. Where are the vehicles going to go in and out? 1st and the trail. It's already congested and it's going to get worse. Top that off with the Terrace project and we're going nowhere! I welcome the Ritz for what it is but I'm holding my breath about the traffic to come. "

John Richards wrote on Jul 16, 2008 12:34 PM:

" renrut, you are missing the point. That scenario of an average guy getting kissed by the prettiest girl was an exception to the rule. That doesn't mean it never happens. Most of the time, very pretty girls know their social standing, and will only associate with above average guys. "

John Richards wrote on Jul 16, 2008 12:39 PM:

" Dhappel54, since when should jobs that require little expertise or education demand at least $15 per hour? Should teenage babysitters be paid that much? People who need more income should qualify themselves for higher paying jobs. Salary levels are set by supply and demand in the job market. "

napapete wrote on Jul 16, 2008 12:48 PM:

" While I am not a civil engineer...I don't think that the traffic impact is going to be quite as great as everyone fears. Remember when whole foods went in...everyone thought that the parking would be a nightmare...in the end (at least in my experience) parking was not an issue at all and aside from the existing issue with the entrance on Trancas (which has always been bad) there has been little negative impact(aside from the lady hacking the cones with the hedge shears). I drive through that intersection (1st and Silverado) everyday to visit family over on Atlas Peak...and this is one section I never have an issue with, even with the closure of 1st Street, the traffic is far from unbearable. The entrance to the garage/hotel is going to be Juarez street, I propose to stop fearing for the worst, and instead focus on how the Ritz will benifit the neighborhood/larger community, because (at least in my eyes) the benefits far outway the inconvienences. I know that this is a small town...but the traffic in the city is not bad (aside from inconvenience from construction. "

marine1/1 wrote on Jul 16, 2008 1:11 PM:

" napapete: Of all parking lots in Napa, the Belaire parking lot IS one of the worst.You must go there late at night or something.Try going there in the morning or afternoon.Another city council disaster.You guys think dollars instead of common sense or what the voters want.The traffis on Silverado trail is already bad and Will only get worse now.A hotel that large scaled would have been better in the airport area and not right in the middle of our already congested silverado trail.I'm sure the council will vote for even more signal lights on silverado trail between soscal and trancas to jam things up even more.That is the trend with all the new building.Look at Soscal by the vintage bank now.They changed the center medians so you can't drive straight across or make a left turn.I'm glad that you're glad with your decision since you helped vote it in. "

vocal-de-local wrote on Jul 16, 2008 1:23 PM:

" napapete, the parking issue at Whole Foods has not been resolved. Just the other day, there was so much Westbound traffic heading into the parking lot that those in the left only Eastbound lanes had to wait it out a light before entering. And then only the first couple of cars could get through, with one ending out in a precarious position in the intersection.

I love Whole Foods but the traffic situation is still a mess. "

realist2 wrote on Jul 16, 2008 2:31 PM:

" Marine 1...BTW it's not Vintage Bank anymore. "

abouttime wrote on Jul 16, 2008 2:44 PM:

" You are all a bunch of whiners. This is a great project. We are lucky to have it and should be proud of how far we've come for the pit that was downtown. The parking at Whole Foods is no problem, in point of fact there is not that much congestion on the Trail and the trade off to have few better looking tourists is well worth it. If you are so unhappy with the improvement of our City, may I suggest Lake County. I'll let you know when the bus leaves. "

realist2 wrote on Jul 16, 2008 3:09 PM:

" I find it amusing that people who live in an area the attracts tourists and is subsidized by their money complains about providing them first class accommodations. If they can afford to stay at the Ritz how much money do you think they will spend in precious Napa? Where do all of you complainers like to vacation? Hawaii, San Diego, Palm Springs, etc? Maybe those cities/states should discontinue providing you with the accommodations you prefer. Get over it. Napa is a world renowned attracation. It's not like the Ritz is going to bring in low lifes. "

napablogger wrote on Jul 16, 2008 4:03 PM:

" tired, developers never do anything for Napa?? You mean, besides supporting affordable housing to the tune of millions of dollars, providing massive TOT taxes that pay for fire and police and whatever other pet projects we can think to lay on them?

Napans demand so much from businesses like this it is almost embarassing, the greed I mean. Everyone lines up for a piece of the pie, we expect to control everything, even how much they pay their workers, how they build their building, how the building looks, etc, etc.

Ever think about the fact that they could just go to Sonoma, or San Francisco, or a lot of other places with their investment money? If we make it hard enough for them to be here, they might.

I think a little humility is in order here, unless you plan to stop driving on the roads, needing any emergency services or flushing your toilet. "

healthnut wrote on Jul 16, 2008 10:00 PM:

" The Ritz-Carlton understands the value of a Napa location. We offer a beauty queen! We jumped too quickly. I think we should have demanded more specifics on health coverage, not all coverage is the same particularly when you are making less than $12 per hour and have dependents to provide for, and we should have demanded more specifics on salary. Most hotel work is strenuous and the hospitality provided by the staff sets the tone for the tourist experience. Workers who have a wage that makes them self sufficient and who receive adequate health benefits will add value to the Ritz-Carlton experience. I am not convinced these conditions are part of the package the city approved. "

noblindershere wrote on Jul 16, 2008 10:19 PM:

" Whiners please move...I'm so tired of the people in Napa resisting change. Change is good and Napa needs to change with the times. I have lived here for almost 25 years and have chosen to raise my family in this community and I'm looking forward to all the changes downtown. My generation (30-40) of people that live in this town are welcoming these changes- we love the Bel Aire Plaza-look at how busy it is- busy is good! Now all we need is to get some better shopping downtown so I don't have to drive to Marin and Walnut Creek to go shopping at William Sonoma, Lulu Lemon, Pottery Barn, Restoration Hardware,Gap, Old Navy, Crate and Barrel.... please come to Napa. I love some of our local shops like Shackfords, but they need some serious updating- how can you not have cooking classes and samples being passed out at a cooking store? I mean how many antique shops, resale stores, crafty stores, doll shops can we take-who shops there? If we had better shopping the traffic in and out of town would be less. Napa is moving forward people, with or without some of you. Unlike the terrible planning done in the sixties downtown, we actually have some people(Gordan Heuther) with taste serving on the committees and looking out to make sure a "mervyns" building isn't built again. Goodbye to the tacky taste of Old Napa and hello new Napa. Don't get me wrong, I'm all about preservation, but nothing that was built in the 60's in Napa is worth preserving. Look at some of the buildings surrounding 1st and Silverado Trail, can you spell UGLY! Welcome aboard RITZ, may you bring some class to Napa. "

Paddy wrote on Jul 16, 2008 11:02 PM:

" Yeah whiners! Move! It's all about the money. That's all that matters and don't you ever forget it! "

comment wrote on Jul 16, 2008 11:35 PM:

" I agree, noblinders. If all these people loved the "old downtown", why weren't they shopping there? When I was a child, downtown was a dark and depressing place. Very few people made a trip downtown.

I love the changes that are taking place. Downtown is becoming vibrant again. Wait until the Avia and the Westin open. Downtown is going to be full of life. What was once the place to avoid will soon become the place to be. You folks can sit at home and peer out your windows, I'll be downtown. "

wowquebonita wrote on Jul 17, 2008 3:40 AM:

" I hope this Ritz is as nice as the one in Halfmoon Bay...I love that; so peaceful and relaxing.

Haaa....good luck with the traffic situation! "

wowquebonita wrote on Jul 17, 2008 3:48 AM:

" " While I am not a civil engineer...I don't think that the traffic impact is going to be quite as great as everyone fears. Remember when whole foods went in...everyone thought that the parking would be a nightmare...in the end (at least in my experience) parking was not an issue at all and aside from the existing issue with the entrance on Trancas (which has always been bad) there has been little negative impact(aside from the lady hacking the cones with the hedge shears) Napapete.

You've got to be kidding me?!?! That place is a waking nightmare! I avoid that shopping center all together. 1. The entrance. ..2. Parking..never enough...3....getting OUT of that shopping plaza..4..."strip" mall; it's lame, I don't understand why there are so many strip malls in town?
More high end stores such as; Neiman Marcus, Bloomingdales, maybe Nordstrom should be added for the people who will be staying at the Ritz...I seriously doubt they'll even consider the Outlets. "

funnyme wrote on Jul 17, 2008 7:17 AM:

" I can't wait to see it up and running.


Bel Aire plaza's parking "issue"? Not too bad, at least every time I decide to go shopping.
Must be the water I drink, or the food I eat or the time in the day I'm there... Never around 5:00 PM Mon-Fri, or 12:00 PM Sat or Sun. "

marine1/1 wrote on Jul 17, 2008 7:35 AM:

" noblindershere: sounds like you are the one that needs to move to Marin or Walnut Creek since THEY seem to be accomidating YOU and that you spend your money out of Napa over there.Shackfords is a great store and we should be thankful they never packed up and left Napa. "

jimmie wrote on Jul 17, 2008 9:35 AM:

" to nonblinders: I tend to agree with you about the changes here but you will have to try to understand that Shackfords IS Napa. All the major chains you mentioned are very nice but this is a different place and not one of the stores you mentioned has a replacement gasket for your 25 year-old blender. Shackfords DOES. The stuff you want can be ordered online. Our downtown deserves a non-generic emphasis. Food samples? Get OFF of Shackfords. People come HERE from Marin to go there, that's a fact.

Go Ritz! "

napadad wrote on Jul 17, 2008 10:45 AM:

" The seven second add on is a joke! 500 full time workers divided by three shifts is approx 130 per shift take into account days off and you have about 100 per shift, put those 200 workers every shift change at that intersection when school is starting and ending and you will see way more than 7 second increase at those lights, more like 7 minutes ... add to that the additional accidents that will occur at the intersection that will tie up the intersection for hours for each and the impact becomes worse. Now add all the construction at that site during those hours for two to three years and factor in the next 19 months of bridge closures and street closure already in place for flood control and you have a development that will impact that area negatively for 3-5 years before it even has a chance show if the planners were full of bull. And as for the rivers beauty, we have a wonderful resource that is beautiful! A river that flows into a wetland area ... its level fluctuates with the tide and exposes mud and in the summer when fresh water flows are low its brown, but it is a rich. vibrant ecology filled with a wonderous variety of wlidlife, fish flora and fauna. many of the residents of our valley are unique to a very small area of this part of the stae and many are threatened species. This is a tidal zone and mud flats are part of that. Unfortunately much trash from these hotels will end up in it also. Can anyone say FAST TRACK THAT DEVELOPEMENT "

tazzmaster wrote on Jul 17, 2008 12:31 PM:

" WAIT TIL IT FLOOD'S AGAIN AND IT WILL. ALL THE WORKER'S AT THE HOTEL WILL BE LIVING ON THE RIVER BANK WITH THE WAGE'S THAT WILL BE MAKING. "

axim wrote on Jul 17, 2008 12:43 PM:

" re napapete:
You're kidding me right? You think the Bel Aire parking is not a problem? You drive the backstreets and ask any of those residents how many people park in front of their houses to shop at Whole Foods.

I love the Ritz for their high end offerings. Their Half Moon facility is breathless. I am still concerned about flow of traffic around there. Have you ever tried driving down the trail and been stopped for a block because someone wanted to turn into or out of the apartments there? Or do you drive down Soscol?

Civs don't do traffic studies. They design roads/bridges/etc. "

axim wrote on Jul 17, 2008 12:45 PM:

" re: abouttime
Take a ride with me everyday down the trail and I'll show you the congestion. There's a reason it takes two lights to get through the 5 point intersection as is with existing traffic. "

napapete wrote on Jul 17, 2008 2:24 PM:

" re: axim

semantics aside, if you think that parking at Bel Aire is that bad, you are a spoiled baby...I go there almost every day, at different times, while sometimes I cannot park within 5 spaces of the store I am going to, I have never had a problem finding a parking spot. Unlike you, I am apperantly not a "man of the people" who canvases the surrounding area looking for others who share in my overall discontent. Bel Aire has problems, mainly the entrence, and people not stopping correctly at the four way stop in the middle, but as far as a lack of sufficient parking, it is simply wrong. Maybe it is because I have lived places that have parking problems in the past, but again, NEVER has it been an issue for me to park, unless you define an issue as having to go up more than one isle.

Napa has a lot to offer everyone, tourists as well as locals, at the end of the day, the price of living in such a wonderful place is dealing with issues that tourists bring. People who wish this was still a small agricultural town need to grow up, this is a wine town now, and apperantly people like to come to Wine Towns. I am happy to have a new way to enjoy the river, and probably another world class restaurant, which are things that I enjoy.

I wish some of you would get over yourselves and be happy that there are people who want to make OUR city a better place, bring in tax dollars, and come to visit. I am happy to see napa going in the right direction! "

marine1/1 wrote on Jul 17, 2008 3:39 PM:

" napapete : For those of you not aware, this is coming from your elected councilman Peter Mott.Unbeleivable !!! "

russ wrote on Jul 17, 2008 4:30 PM:

" Great!

JOBS, JOBS, JOBS!

Napa is too full of NIMBYS. "

CouncilmanMott wrote on Jul 17, 2008 6:40 PM:

" Marine 1 : I don't know who napapete is, although I like "some" of his arguements. I assure you napapete and I are two seperate individuals. I will only and always comment here under "CouncilmanMott" so everyone knows who it is. Besides, if I was going to post under a seperate handle it would be something cool like "the dark knight!" no offence napapete. "

napapete wrote on Jul 18, 2008 12:20 AM:

" True...I am not councilman Peter Mott...it is interesting that someone would make that assumption...after all, Peter is a common name, biblical in fact. I have to say, blogging is interesting, this is my first time, I am amazed by the emotion that people put into this. Regardless, I am glad that people have a place to discuss and disagree. I hope that everyone knows that I hold no ill will, but rather just wish to express my opinion.

By the way, councilman mott just earned my vote! "

jwk wrote on Jul 18, 2008 2:51 AM:

" Could the people who got the petition going to put the "Klimpton Hotel" to a vote, Get one going immediately to do the same with this issue? Maybe it still passes since alot of people only care about the Tourist and Tax dollars that don't go back into the infastructure anyway. But at least we have a shot to vote these Montrosities down. Never know, Maybe there's enough "NIMBY's" as you call them and loyal Locals with commomn sense that care about the Once Nice Lifestyle we had here to get this project shot down. Maybe it's already too late. After they Bulldoze that Old eyesore area, let them put in a nice "Green Belt" park or open space area instead of more concrete Jungle.. "

grannieaj wrote on Jul 18, 2008 3:33 AM:

" I don't understand why people have so little pride in our city. I don't need fancy restaurants and stores I can't afford to make me feel pride. I don't need tourists to
tell me that my city is great. Napa has always been a world-class city to me! I was at the city council meeting it sounded to me like the developer was threatening to leave
if they didn't get what they wanted - and that's just wrong.

Napablogger - I have kids in Sonoma and San Francisco that I visit and what you're saying is wrong. If they built this hotel
over there, they would have to pay a living wage by law. In San Francisco, they passed Proposition G that made a new development
have living wages, hundreds of acres of parks, and hundreds of affordable apartments. You know who was behind it? A BIG DEVELOPER!
That's because without that proposition, the developer would have had to do even MORE for the people of that city. That's what it's like
when your civic leaders don't think of your town as some ugly girl. "

grannieaj wrote on Jul 18, 2008 3:34 AM:

" What's the big deal about hotel taxes? I've paid taxes all my life but
I didn't bring thousands of cars and hundreds of poor immigrants into this town. If you're going to do that, you SHOULD do something
that makes it worthwhile for our city. The companies are making so much money by lowering our standard of living. Why should we
let them make our city a playground for the rich? This city is not for us anymore. The job of our city council should be to
stop this, not make it happen. We don't need extra taxes that badly. It's not worth losing our city. There has to be balance -
but it's not happening. We're just developing willy nilly.

Let's get something things straight. We're talking about 3000 car trips, 500 workers, a convention hall, restaurants, and on and on. You don't
need to be some engineer - you need common sense to know this is trouble.

Also, Gordon Huether's comments at the meeting were rude. He said that he didn't care if people thought he was offensive.
What kind of city councillor would he be? I want to get some new city councillors. "

axim wrote on Jul 18, 2008 6:26 AM:

" re: napapete

And that is exactly why I have to point out to you the "problem" with the Whole Foods parking. Most people are not aware of the issue that the residents around the Bel Aire plaza have to endure. We just park and go in. As for being a baby, I'm not one to look for the closest parking stall. I usually park a few rows away to use my legs and walk and let others that need to park closer have them. "

axim wrote on Jul 18, 2008 6:29 AM:

" re: napapete

Forum posting does make an interesting twist for people. Posting your opinion is exactly what they're here for! Kudos for defending your opinion. However it is not a place for personal attacks. I like it when people disagree and try to prove their points so others can hear both sides of an issue. "

axim wrote on Jul 18, 2008 6:30 AM:

" I still maintain that I think the Ritz is a fantastic addition to Napa and is right in line with recent additions. Only time will tell about the impacts on all aspects to the community. "

jersey guy wrote on Jul 18, 2008 7:55 AM:

" I continue to be amazed that there are enough people to fill a hotel that charges $500 a night. If there are enough, it proves the assertion that most of the income growth in this country and around the world is in the super-rich, the top 1/2% of all incomes. In other words, the kind of people who would'nt even flinch at $20 a gallon gasoline. "

juliana wrote on Jul 18, 2008 3:20 PM:

" In response to "grannieaj", I checked on the San Francisco living wage. It is currently $9.36.

Here's a link to the City of San Francisco website (webmaster, this is a link to a government website):
http://www.sfgov.org/site/olse_index.asp?id=27605 "

realist2 wrote on Jul 18, 2008 4:01 PM:

" I have stayed at the Ritz on several occasions and they are wonderful. With just 35 properties in the U.S. (9 of which are in Florida) and 8 more on the way, Napa should feel privileged to have such a prestigious hotel. Check out thier website and maybe you will understand the level of class they bring with them. (BTW not all rooms go for $500 a night. Some start at $200.) Or do you prefer that the Green Door and the Chateau to be what visitors think of Napa? I recently had friends here from SoCal that were afraid to dine at the Red Hen because they were concerned about what type of clientele may be at the run down Chateau.

There are so many businesses that are desperately in need of a face lift but with no competition they won't spend the money. I deserve better than to have to shop dirty aisles with half filled shelves and visitors deserve a nice place to stay. As I said before "Napa is a world renowned attracation now" and if you don't like it you will have to move.

Congrats to the City Council for trying to move this city into the 20th century. "

vercingetorex wrote on Jul 18, 2008 5:46 PM:

" The notion that you can make a little burg like Napa into a "world class city" by putting in a hotel or two or a few more overpriced restaurants, is an absolute laugh to begin with.
You can shine the apple all you want but the core is still rotten. Money and attention is inordinately spent catering slavishly to people, that would probably visit here anyway, while our infrastructure goes to hell.
Napa becomes less and less liveable as
the fools in charge chase the golden ring around.
In the meantime by commercializing this valley we kill what made it special to begin with. It's all too sad and too funny. The river is still a smelly polluted mess. We have a third world city sprouting up where Napa used to be and crime is rampant.
World Class City? No! World Class Folly. "

me2you wrote on Jul 21, 2008 1:26 PM:

" Thanks City of Napa! Gee how many hotels are in the process? TO MANY. I suppose all on the board don't live IN THE VALLEY (probably on the hills!). Drive a while down here where the "WORKING" people live and see how the driving is! ALMOST BUMPER TO BUMPER NOW, and most don't know you can turn right at a red light. Leaving Napa after 57 years, do you understand that? "

mofosheee wrote on Jul 22, 2008 2:10 PM:

" What up?..................
I thought we were having a water crisis "

14obama wrote on Jul 25, 2008 6:22 PM:

" Makes one wonder who the writer of this article thinks he is. Sure sounds like he's in bed with the developers when he says a stupid thing like this.
"A Florida-based development company will build a posh five-diamond tourist destination costing more than $200 million at the northwest corner of First Street and Silverado Trail, where not long ago garbage trucks parked at night."
The old timers in Napa would prefer the garbage trucks parking there. The City approved the Ritz and all of the other money grabbing,tourist traps,not WE the people. Where or when will it end ? Napa loves "city rapists" ! C'mon ! Build em Higher ! "

mytwocents wrote on Jul 27, 2008 2:48 PM:

" two words : Traffic nightmare! "

sickand tired wrote on Aug 1, 2008 2:44 PM:

" Up until about 25 years ago I did almost all of my shopping in downtown Napa. It was a great place to shop, with lots of variety and plenty of customers. As the City continued to "improve" itself and allow strip malls all around, this disappeared. I avoid downtown like the plague now. The only place I will shop is Shackfords. It is still a great place with long-time personnel who really know their business. There is much available that is not available in the more upscale places many commentators have mentioned.

I have watched all these "improvements" over the years and waited to see when the benefits might start. Unfortunately, what we have is worse streets, worse traffic and less evidence of police coverage than there was 30 years ago.

I have loved Napa a long time, but don't know how much longer I can stand it. I'm sure some of the people who would like to turn this into LA of Disneyland would be happy to see me go. Perhaps someday they will regret some of their decisions. "

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