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Council OKs changes to dog park
More acres off-leash; bigger fines coming for scofflaws
Thursday, July 03, 2008
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Off-leash dogs won and intransigent dog owners lost at Tuesday night’s Napa City Council meeting, in which the council approved eight more off-leash acres at the sprawling city park, but sought to up the fines for owners who violate the leash ordinance and other laws related to canines.

The council voted 5-0 to approve a recommendation that the 31-acre off-leash area be expanded and improved. Yet councilmembers had harsh words for owners who do not clean up after their pets and incorrigibles who insist on keeping their dogs off leash in all corners of the wildland park off of Dry Creek Road.
The council’s action brings to a close a months-long debate that saw 500 Napans fill out surveys about Alston Park use, an issue that seems to flare up every few years.

This year’s events began with a call from park users for more enforcement of leash laws, as many visitors were allowing their dogs off-leash in the hilly northern section of the park, where dogs are required by law to be on leash.
Then off-leash lovers organized and demanded more space, with some seeking full run of the park or an exchange in which the larger, northern portion of the park would become an off-leash zone instead of the smaller and flatter southern part. A backlash followed, with some visitors complaining that off-leash dogs already have taken control of the park, and that those dogs’ owners don’t care to follow leash or pick-up laws and have degraded the experience for others.

City of Napa police began patrolling the park this spring, issuing warnings and then citations for violations of leash laws.
When the issue reached the city of Napa Parks and Recreation Advisory Board last month, the agency heard testimony from two seemingly irreconcilable sides and proposed a compromise: The area near the popular south Napa parking lot would now include an off-leash portion, and the main off-leash area up the hill would expand. The wilder northern portion would remain an off-leash area.

City councilmembers asked for continued enforcement of regulations at the park.

The city also plans to add trails, maintain the off-leash area in a way that encourages more varied use, and perhaps add a pasture-style fence delineating off-leash and on-leash portions of the park.

Dave Perrazzo, parks department superintendent, added that the city may remove some brush and dead trees and plant shade trees in the so-called upper orchard area.

‘A sewer’

The city council adopted that plan Tuesday, but not before railing against park users who flout the leash laws or fail to pick up after their pets.

City of Napa Police Officer Brent Potter is the city’s man at Alston Park, and he summed up the last several months on the paths.

He acknowledged a serious problem comes from users he has encountered who have told him point blank they plan to continue to violate the leash laws, and said the police department may want to create a schedule of stepped-up fines for repeat offenders.

“It is definitely something we have to consider because of the comments we get (from people who say), ‘We will not comply,’” said Potter. “If that is going to be the mentality, we will have to deal with that.”

Several council members cottoned to the idea of increased fines for repeat offenders.

“It burns me that anyone would say to an officer that they can disregard the law,” said Councilman Mark van Gorder.

Potter acknowledged that most Alston users are law-abiding, but nonetheless characterized the creation of a dog area there years ago “essentially a failed experiment,” given all the time he spends patrolling the area and the continued discovery of violators.

Sarah Martin, a Napa parks commissioner who was the lone vote against the compromise at the commission level, testified Tuesday that more of the park should go to the dogs. She noted that the most interesting and hilly parts of the park are off-leash areas, and that the options in Napa Valley for vigorous off-leash exercise are “essentially nil.” She also asked the city to consider making the northern part of the park available to off-leash in the early morning hours.

The council did not adopt Martin’s suggestions.

Council members also inquired into whether users are picking up after their pups. Councilwoman Julianna Inman said parts of Alston Park are “turning into a sewer,” and that both Alston and Kennedy parks are seeing “the worst kind of scofflaw behavior.”

City councilmembers encouraged Potter to consider enforcement of dog litter laws, as well. Perrazzo noted that it could take a year or more for the city to complete new signage and work on the trails in the park.
27 comment(s)

Dirty Napkin wrote on Jul 2, 2008 10:31 AM:

" Yikes! The fur is going to fly! "

happyday wrote on Jul 2, 2008 11:49 AM:

" I love dogs and other animals. That being said, one of my last experiences at Alston Park has caused me to stay away. Most of the people with dogs had them off-leash in unapproved areas. There was dog feces all along the trails. I witnessed some people taking their dogs off-leash in the areas that are watershed for the seasonal creeks so they could defecate, and then the owners failed to pick up after their dogs. I had two dogs come at me off-leash, teeth bared and hackles raised, I think because I was in the vicinity of the birds they were chasing. I know that some dog owners are very responsible with their pets, but those that aren't make it hard on others. I enjoy seeing people out walking their dogs at park, but I'm not sure how I feel about these new changes. I'll have to risk another trip to the park and see how things are coming along. "

funnyme wrote on Jul 2, 2008 11:50 AM:

" Bruno is very happy boy today...
Yiippiii! "

dalilah wrote on Jul 2, 2008 12:28 PM:

" For those that don't wish to walk amongst rule breakin' off-leash dogs, go to westwood hills, where dogs are not allowed, even though an occasional rule breaker is up there, for the most part, no dogs. Which isn't great for me, since I live nearer there, than Dry Creek.
For those breaking the rules at Alston, knock it off! You are all fortunate your precious pooches haven't attacked someone and caused serious injury. "

Straight Talk wrote on Jul 2, 2008 1:59 PM:

" This summary of the meeting does not mention that city council directed staff to come back (soon) with a proposal for a new penalty fee plan for people who do not follow the park rules related to animal oversight.

At the meeting, Officer Potter, from Napa P.D. explained the city fine for violations is $20... no matter how often a violator repeats an offense. City Council may change that penalty system to increase the fine for the second, third or additional offenses. I am hopeful that change will create a safer environment for all park visitors - with or without dogs. "

get a life wrote on Jul 2, 2008 4:01 PM:

" Hmm.. I don't recall ever seeing a news article where someone has ever been attacked at Alston Park by a viscious, teeth showing k9, did I miss that article?

I have been to Alston MANY MANY MANY times to take my son hicking there all of the time and have never once come accross a dog that was aggressive. No, I do not own a dog!!!

If you don't like dogs, don't want to encounter dogs, or fear the sweet little guys, why do you go to Alston Park? You know that they are going to be there!!!! Find somewhere else and quite whinning. You know you just want something else to complain about!!! "

Caretaker D wrote on Jul 2, 2008 5:33 PM:

" Maybe a three strikes and your dog gets impounded law would work. On the serious side, steeper fines are in order for repeat offenders.
I used to go there a lot with my kids and hike and ride the bikes. Now I go alone, mostly on my bike because of the off leash dog problem all over the park. Every time I go to the park I encounter off leash dogs (big and small) in the on-leash areas. Most are no problem for me on a bike, but I've had a few close calls.
On a late morning ride about six weeks ago, I had to get off my bike to use it as a sheild to keep three large dogs at bay. I was afraid of being attacked. The owner of these dogs didn't care much about the situation.
I still use the park even after the close calls, I even go for a jog now and then. But look out, I carry a big can of HALT! Dog Repellent now. If your dogs come at me (teeth glaring), I'll send them running with one shot. If the U.S. Postal Service has used it for 30 years, then it's good enough for me. Get some HALT! people, feel safe at Alston once again. HALT! Dog Repellent to the rescue. "

walker for life wrote on Jul 2, 2008 5:33 PM:

" get-a-life Count you and your boy fortunate. The many, many, many, times you’ve been to Alston Park actually represents a TINY, TINY, TINY fraction of the time that the park is open to the public. Doesn’t it. So what do you really know about what happens there? Very little. If you had followed the various threads over the past couple of months you would have read at least 2 detailed stories of dogs which were killed at the park, as well as countless assorted problems reported by one individual after another.

Violence typically takes just a few minutes, but the scars can last a lifetime. Thankfully the City is finally getting around to setting things right at Alston Park.

Alston is a beautiful place that belongs to the entire town. Respect the park and your neighbors, nothing else makes any sense. "

mafi wrote on Jul 2, 2008 6:05 PM:

" Any chance there will be smaller off leash area's also? My dog likes to be top dog, so I avoid the park, but would still like him to get a good run in.. "

reason-ator wrote on Jul 2, 2008 8:15 PM:

" mafi,

There are two fenced-in areas in the south-east corner of the park. The most easterly area is smaller and usually empty. It's perfect for shy or less-social dogs. "

cindycatt wrote on Jul 3, 2008 9:15 AM:

" I think it is a great compromise. There needs to be clear signage designating the off-leash area...maybe some poop bags on posts around the area as a "reminder" will encourage picking it up. I know myself that if my dog is in the middle of the field and does "it"...it is difficult to get to due to all of the brush and weeds...but I will sure do my best from now on.

Those of you who continue to ignore the rules, please stop...the city compromised, don't cause further aggravation between dog and non-dog park users...it's finished, and both sides can say they won. "

John Richards wrote on Jul 3, 2008 9:37 AM:

" Now that the off-leashers have been thrown a bone, hopefully the city will adopt really big fines for repeat offenders. It will be a win-win solution for all. I'll probably start using the park again after the incidence of off-leash dogs in the on-leash area is substantially reduced. "

prunepicker wrote on Jul 3, 2008 10:50 AM:

" Okay this is how its going to be. Im so sick and tired of this. I've read over the months mostly with amusment, the blogs about this. I've even tried to inject some humour with my replies to lighten everyone up. For 10 yrs me and my dog have been coming to Alston. I've helped with the upkeep of trails and have done trash pickup. Not just for me and my dog , but for everyone. When we have walked on a narrow trail in the OFFLEASH area and a jogger or a biker would come through, I would politely stand to one side with my dog to let them pass. No more! I've had no problem obeying the current law. But the runners, bikers and horses that insist on charging through the off leash area and scaring the wits out of the people and the dogs. look out, us law abiding people will be calling 911, and armed with pepper spray. Most of you bloggers think it only the people with dogs that are the renegades; think again! There are lots of different types of a%@#hs that go to Alston and I would say that 95% of all the users are self-centered whinners. We all had an opportunity here to come together and make this a beautiful friendly oasis. This is'nt over. By the way, the 2 puppies that were killed at Alston were in the dog commons. I witnessed one. It wasnt pretty. If any one wants more of that story, ask and I will tell the whole story exactly how it happened. "

napadad wrote on Jul 3, 2008 12:41 PM:

" Tell it please "

wined0wnnapa wrote on Jul 3, 2008 4:16 PM:

" prunepicker - just so were clear here. youre going to mace runners and bikers who approach you too quickly? or just call 911? if this is the case I think there is a fenced off leash area for you. its called napa state. "

prunepicker wrote on Jul 3, 2008 4:45 PM:

" WineOwnapa, you miss the point, the people that walk dogs in the on leash area that don't care about others safety are not the only type of users of Alston that are oblivious of others safety. yes a jogger knocked me off balance when I was bending over tying my shoe. It was on a narrow trail and he didnt even have the courtesy to say excuse me or say sorry.
all he did was flash me a dirty look at me and my dog probably cause I was blocking his way. I saw another once almost get creamed by a bike rider as he was flying over the hill in the off leash as the walker was nearing the top. He never slowed down. The horse back riders are generally more considerate but they have number one right off way on the trails.If the runners are talking about arming themselves with pepper spray why shouldnt everyone? "

bob robeson wrote on Jul 3, 2008 5:21 PM:

" Yes, this is not over. The next step will be to remove all of those city counsel members from office. You can bet that prior to the next election we will be posting their names at Alston Park and around town as the anti-dog gang. We will test my theory that the owners of the 30,000 dogs in Napa do have some political power. It's funny that there was no mention of the 780 signatures collected and submitted to expand the park. Our next campaign will be during election time. The majority of dog owners are laid back people, and didn't get up and fight for this issue. However, I believe if we start a voting campaign, they will get up to vote, and then we can get rid Napa of this city counsel who has bought into the cries of a small special interest group of dog phobic people. STAY TUNED. "

jenny99 wrote on Jul 3, 2008 7:47 PM:

" Good luck with that Bob Robeson. Did you even bother to show up at the city council meeting to voice your opinion? In my recollection, no, you did not. If you had been there, you would have heard that the petition was mentioned, as well as the results of the surveys. Your issue is not so much with the city council, as it is with the Parks and Rec Commission who made the recommendation. If I were a member of city council (don't worry I am not!) I would have banned all dogs from Alston based on the police officer's testimony alone. His statement that having dogs at Alston was an experiment that has FAILED would have been enough for me.

Getting to bring your dog to a park is a privilege, not a right. You should be thankful that the city council is still allowing dogs there at all.

By the way, I have a dog. "

Matt wrote on Jul 3, 2008 7:53 PM:

" bob robeson, I have it on good authority that the city council is against you. I have done extensive research in Cat Fancy magazine and know for a FACT that the entire counci are cat lovers. Hello....time to recall!!!! "

John Richards wrote on Jul 3, 2008 9:51 PM:

" bob robeson, your issue got a fair hearing. Now you are starting to pout like a child who didn't get its way. Face it, the on-leash proponents far outnumber the off-leash ones. It's not a pro-dog versus anti-dog issue. "

John Richards wrote on Jul 3, 2008 9:58 PM:

" Prunepicker, your statement is not very coherent. You say you are going to call 911 when you see a jogger or hiker and use pepper spray on them? You do realize that is considered assault? "

prunepicker wrote on Jul 4, 2008 10:10 AM:

" john Richards, I said carry pepperspray. nothing about using it. all the people that said they will carry pepper spray to use on a dog . Why shouldnt others carry pepper spray to use just in case another HUMAN assults them? By the way a police officer suggested this to me a few yrs back. "

DogsGoneWild wrote on Jul 4, 2008 3:52 PM:

" Jenny99: I couldn't have said it better!

Woof! "

cayce wrote on Jul 4, 2008 4:21 PM:

" I have been reading with interest all the controversy flying about Alston Park. I myself do not have a dog but I do walk at the Park everyday. I have never witnessed an attack against a person or a dog by an off leash dog I only hear about them. There is way more horse feces on the trails then dog feces. I say let the people walk there dogs. If you don't like dogs try Skyline Park, you pay a small fee to park your car and the park is much larger and a beutiful walk. "

DogsGoneWild wrote on Jul 4, 2008 7:20 PM:

" I'm curious. Are the threatening remarks toward the City Councel members (made by Mr. robeson to have them voted out) made by a elected rep from the off leasher's org. or just a self appointed mouth piece?
What kind of tactic is it to threaten to hang the names of the City Councel Members on a post at Alston Park and in town addressing them as the, "anti dog gang" during the next election? This doesn't reflect well on the off leashers movement to be sure! Woof! "

misofrappacino wrote on Jul 5, 2008 10:40 AM:

" Check out the dog policy in Boulder, CO, where I have recently moved...

City of Boulder, Voice and Sight Control Guidelines for dogs:

http://www.bouldercolorado.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4647&Itemid=1926

Wouldln't it be great if the City of Napa could do something like this, not only at Alston, but city-wide?

What a contrast to the sad polarization that has happened over the past months. Also, Bob Robeson has demonstrated many times that he will inflame and exaggerate, rather than discuss and compromise; because of this I think he his hurting his own cause. But, the bottom line is that Alston is a public park for mixed use. Compromise is, by definition, the way to go. It is a very simple concept - to share.

Take a look at what Boulder has done - I think there is much to learn from in how they've approached these issues. "

burtpolson wrote on Jul 6, 2008 8:07 AM:

" I wish I would have seen this article earlier for my comment. I sent Parks & Rec my answer to the survey back in May. I thought I would paste it here. By the way, if you want your opinion to count you should use your name.

Please tell us why you use Alston Park: Dogs, Walking, Biking, Running and Hiking.
Do you agree with the layout of the current use areas: Yes, I feel it is adequate if it was used accordingly.
Do you think the off-leash areas are adequate: Yes, however these rules do not seem to be followed.
Please take some time and give us any additional comments:
I use the park for all the items I listed. When I take my dog, I follow the rules for off-leash and on-leash areas. I am in the minority as I estimate 90% of the dogs in the on-leash area do not have leashes on. This does pose a serious problem for me for the times I use the park without my dog and for all the other people as well. I am a runner and when I run in the "on" or off-leash area half the time I am either chased by a dog, tripped by a dog or must make a last minute maneuver to avoid a dog. This really isn’t fair as the park should be able to be enjoyed by everyone. I have friends who run as well and they have chosen to no longer go to the park because of the problems I just mentioned. I believe in following the rules as they are posted as it enables for us all to enjoy the park. "

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