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Friday, May 16, 2008
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I ride a motorcycle and there are times when I can’t get the light to recognize that I’m there. It goes through its cycle without giving me a green. Why?

I don’t ride a motorcycle, but there are certain intersections where this happens to me, too.
Electrician Jeff Taylor and Electrical Supervisor Steve Crego from the City Public Works yard provided some insight on this issue.

They said this can happen where there are loops embedded in the asphalt to detect the vehicle on the road and send a signal to the control box for the light. Motorcycles, which obviously are lighter than cars and cut a narrower path on the road, sometimes do not trip the sensors in the loop.
The only thing to do — and Taylor and Crego made it clear they were not recommending doing anything unsafe or illegal — is to safely maneuver your vehicle so it crosses the lines of the loop again. For a motorcycle, idling slightly off the center of the lane so you cross the lines could give you a better chance of being detected. Another way to get the loop’s attention is to back up and cross over it again.

Taylor said some intersection loops have crosshatches on the front edge, making them more sensitive to smaller vehicles.
Even more preferable would be to find another path rather than having to deal with these problematic situations.

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3 comment(s)

entity wrote on May 19, 2008 5:25 PM:

" I thought that intersection detectors worked via inductance, not on the actual weight or size of the vehicle

Those loops generate a small electrical field that is disturbed by large metal/metal-containing objects (like cars, which also generate their own electrical field), and this disturbance is what causes the light to trigger. Size may only be a problem if you're not sitting fully on the inductors.

Though I don't ride a motorcycle to confirm this, I've heard that if your bike won't trip the light: First, make sure you're sitting on the coil - look for a rectangular patched piece of asphalt - and then, with due caution, turn the bike off and back on again. The starter coil should generate a strong enough electical field for the sensor to notice and you'll soon be on your way. "

barefoot wrote on May 19, 2008 8:45 PM:

" Encourage your road department to install cameras at the intersection. They can even pick up bicyclists. They even work when someone doesn't stop in the correct place. The only problem is when they get out of alignment, such as a huge wind event, knocking them into the wrong direction. "

entity wrote on May 20, 2008 1:29 AM:

" That's a good idea, far better than "go find another road to ride your motorcycle on" - provided of course that they're -only- sensor cameras, and not used for surveillance. "

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