AGW rant
By Michael Haley
October 28th, 2009
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What is being done in the name of Anthropogenic (human-caused) Global Warming right now is a tragedy. People have gone insane with this. Why in the world do we think that raising gasoline prices to $5 a gallon is a good idea? People are going to starve, in fact they are starving already and AGW hysteria is a major culprit.
Biofuels are a sad joke. They are not going to solve any problems. Biofuels were what we ran on before we had fossil fuels. You know, a horse plowing a field that ran on grains for food? That's biofuel powered production.
Ethanol gets 1.34 BTU's (british thermal units, a measure of energy) for every 1 BTU burned up making it. Oil easily averages 100 BTU's per 1 BTU needed to produce it. That means that ethanol has 100 times less energy than oil, which means it is incredibly expensive and inefficient.
So what does our government do? Subsidize the production of ethanol from corn to the tune of billions of tax dollars and make corn so expensive that food prices are shooting up. And it solves exactly zero problems with energy.
Not only that, but now that this biofuel craze has hit, rainforests are being felled to grow biofuel sources like sugar beets and corn, and so much third world acreage is being switched over that there are food riots. There were riots over cooking oil a few months back and now riots over rice prices are starting to happen, one in Haiti this week.
Food prices have doubled and even tripled, and a lot of that has happened in the last few months. Anyone who is out there telling you that fixing global warming "doesn't have to cost a lot" is selling you a bill of goods. It has already had enormous costs and they are going up fast.
$4 a gallon gas and food prices that are being driven up by increased energy and transportation costs are really hurting Americans, and you can multiply that times a hundred in the third world. It is the people at the bottom who always get hurt the most by this stuff.
Even Paul Krugman, well known left wing economist and New York Times opinion columnist, had this to say in reference to corn ethanol: "You might put it this way: people are starving in Africa so that American politicians can court votes in farm states".
Why are we doing this to ourselves? Have we been really really bad people that God has to punish, so we will jump in first and do it ourselves?
I don't trust the environmentalists who are promoting this. These are the same people who went into the third world and banned DDT resulting in literally millions of deaths from malaria. They take zero responsibility for it now. DDT turned out to be a far less toxic substance than the alarmists at the time claimed.
What it does do is make some birds shells thinner, and therefore if enough DDT is in the environment then we would lose some birds. Are millions of human deaths is worth that? If Republicans had promoted this with equal results it would be listed as one of the great humanitarian crimes of history, instead most people don't even know about it.
The biggest problem with the AGW debate is that the climate and statistical models that are used to prove it are so complicated that even most Ph.D's in meteorology don't understand it. That means that I don't understand it, you don't understand it, Al Gore does not understand it, nor do about 99.9% of the people preaching about it understand it. Yet we all have to make decisions, momentous and incredibly important decisions, about what to do about it. So we do what we always do in these instances, we evaluate the credibility of the people who do say they know.
Two of the major figures who started all this are James Hanson of NASA, and Michael Mann, lead author of early United Nations IPCC reports. Hanson of NASA is the chief alarmist on AGW, who would not even allow other scientists to peer review the statistical methods used to adjust all the temperature data until very recently. This is the raw data that proves the temperatures have gone up. And his hording of his methodology is completely contrary to science. Strike one.
Then Hanson's fellow alarmist Michael Mann came up with the famous "hockey stick" graph used by Al Gore in his movie to demonstrate that rising carbon dioxide levels have led to enormous temperature increases since the industrial revolution. Then it was discovered that no matter what numbers you put into the formula used to create it, you got a hockey stick graph. Oops. Strike two.
And what was Mann‚s excuse? Oh, we are not statisticians. It doesn't matter because temperatures are going up anyway. What? What??? Excuse me, your whole theory is based on statistics, which you wouldn't show other scientists for peer review, and now you say you are not statisticians?? Strike three and you are out of the game. Leave the damn stadium losers, your propaganda is literally killing people. How can anyone trust them?
People, whatever your beliefs, and that is all they are at this point because it is an entirely unproven theory, whatever your beliefs are about AGW the fact remains that we have no other replacement fuel. The whole industrial revolution was started and grew due to fossil fuels and if we don't have a replacement then we are going to return to the economy we had before fossil fuels.
Except, except, except ... we do have one good source. But the environmentalists wont let us use it, nuclear fuel. To me that is another indication of why I can‚' take them seriously. If they were really that worried about AGW, they would be out promoting this. Isn‚'t that better than world wide poverty and starvation?
There is an arrogant elitism here that is ironically a mirror image of what they are constantly accusing Republicans of, insensitivity to the poor. Well, I will tell you, Exxon Corporation has done far more to bring people out of poverty than all the AGW alarmists rolled into one.
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Kevin wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:37 PM:
napablogger wrote on Apr 10, 2008 10:36 PM:
vocal-de-local wrote on Apr 11, 2008 1:31 AM:
Global warming or not, biofuels are a step toward self sufficiency. It's expensive. But so are the costs of war to maintain foreign fuel dependency. Those costs should be added on top of imported fuel costs and only then should it be compared to biofuels.
Energy 'expense' forces us to live within those boundaries defined by available resources. Any true environmentalist knows that 'expense' is present in all levels of nature in order to maintain balance.
Environmentalism and humanitarianism are not the same thing and in many respects they are opposite. Humanitarianism is about saving people at any cost, even if it contributes to population explosions, dependency and depletion of resources. Environmentalism is about saving the world in a sustainable way so that a reasonable number of humans can share the planet with other living things for as long as possible. Environmentalism concerns itself with the future. Humanitarianism concerns itself with the here and now. A true environmentalist cannot be a true humanitarianist.
I'm just telling you the truth. If someone tells you they are both, they are living in a hybrid fantasy world where the cost of living remains stable while resource demands concurrently increase. "
Sandra wrote on Apr 11, 2008 7:59 PM:
Bill wrote on Apr 11, 2008 11:20 PM:
Bill wrote on Apr 11, 2008 11:23 PM:
napablogger wrote on Apr 12, 2008 1:32 AM:
napablogger wrote on Apr 12, 2008 1:44 AM:
As to your points about environmentalism and humanitarianism, those are the most extreme definitions that I have ever heard. There are many points less radical that would qualify as being humanitarian or concerned about the environment. I suppose some people are that extreme, it is nearly insane if so. It is insane to try to lower world temperatures over the next century by ten degrees, assuming we even need to, by starving people and destroying the economy today. What is really behind that and all extremist philosophies is a lot of anger at the people who they feel have wronged the world and a desire to punish those people. Al Gore is one of them that does that. That is what I see with a lot of liberals actions, they want the world punished for being bad, for using fosssil fuels, for being racist, for all kinds of things, not paying enough taxes. It distorts their objectivity, if there is any left in that frame of mind. People on the far right do it too, especially those like Falwell and Pat Robertson--God is punishing for them, the evil people. What you have said is a mirror image of that mentality. "
napablogger wrote on Apr 12, 2008 1:51 AM:
vocal-de-local wrote on Apr 12, 2008 12:05 PM:
Regarding Mexico and other countries with a great deal of dry terrain; sure, they have available mineral/petroleum resources. But it doesn't feed them. If I had a choice of being stuck in a country with either surplus petroleum or surplus agricultural, it's a no brainer choosing which place I would rather be. I might have to walk long distances, but at least I will have food to provide the energy to walk.
Regarding global warming, global cooling, or any type of changes; man made or nature made: With few exceptions, humans have so far been lucky. Our climate has been fairly consistent which has allowed us to thrive. But it won't last forever. Historically, weather patterns show evidence of change, without human intervention, which affected food production. Even a volcanic eruption could change weather patterns.
We have grown up and outward with the assumption that our weather will remain consistent forever. Agriculture is somewhat dependent on consistent weather patterns.
Think of it this way. If you received an inheritance and you spent all the money at once because of an assumption that your job will always be available and that you will remain healthy enough to work into your old age, but then you develop an illness which forces you to quit, I'll bet that you would regret spending all that money at once.
We should not be spending all of our resources all at once. Nor should we contribute to an artificial expansion of other countries with dry arid lands who cannot support themselves without outside help. Like I said, suffering is put off until another day. That's inhumane.
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vocal-de-local wrote on Apr 12, 2008 12:29 PM:
I do not believe that most environmentalists are punitive. If you witness a vehicle heading toward someone standing in the way, you will yell at them to get out of the way. Your warning was not the result of being punitive (I warned you that would happen if you crossed a busy street) but because humans naturally want to protect and help eachother.
Oh...another matter: NB, there are too many steps involved with finding the columnist blogs. We now have to go to opinions, onto more opinions and then onto columnists - 3 steps. I really believe that the columnist blogs should be mixed with all of the opinion blogs for greater input. "
Bill wrote on Apr 13, 2008 12:23 PM:
When you make it into a Republican anti crusade on the merits of ethanol subsidies, or rather false merits, you had better see where the congressional votes are counted. Both major parties pander extraordinarily to the mega farm and commodities lobby. The sudden concern for the worlds starving population and linking it solely to ethanol is merely another tactical hook for you writing. It should spark a better response tghan you are receiving. It is not good when it is only those who agree with you.
I would like to point out what I believe is another error that you foster concerning farm subsidies and Napa valley grape growers. I will attribute this to what I have referred to before as Pollyannaish thinking on your part rather than accuse your of deliberate misleading statements or allowing yourself to be deliberately misinformed.
In the years 2003 to 2005 which I was able to verify documented statistics from the USDA no fewer than 266 Napa county residents received benefits, from a few dollars to hundreds of thousands. Some interesting and prominent names are included in that figure. Wineries, growers, corporate entities and individuals collected sizeable amount of public money intended to aid struggling farmers but diverted to those who were successful at gaming the system. This is all public record and the wine business ties to corporate farming do not exclude it from culpability in defrauding the American taxpayer.
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Bill wrote on Apr 13, 2008 12:36 PM:
For the same time span over $12 million dollars in corn subsidies were awarded to the 1st congressional district, a district not known for corn production. In these years California received over 1.11 billion in USDA benefits. All this did more to damage the intrests of economies dependent upon the price of grain than any amount of ethanol subsidy. Those who needed it the least benefited the most from a program originally designed to protect family farms from the vagaries of nature and commodity price fluctuations and Napa valley vintners and growers were among those receiving the benefits.
There a re several local well known names on the list of 266 recipients some famous long time Napa players as well as virtual unknowns. It is hard to understand how this out right fraud can be ignored in favor of the more glamorous opinion bites on immigration or global warming. The farm subsidies do more to promote hunger and need in Latin America, Africa and other continents that contribute to migration than any ethanol subsidy or imagined forign thirst for US social benefits.
Farm bill gives the great lie to the promises of NAFTA and the free market advocates of globalization. It shows them to be economic hypocrites. It also shows thart this vally is as complicit in this hierocracy as any corner of the US.
Talking corn is just not glamorous.
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Bill wrote on Apr 13, 2008 7:46 PM:
you need more hits here attack ethanol as a total boondoggle and forget the global warming stuff. Ethanol subsidies are a global threat and so is the farm bill which dwarfs the ethanol subsidies. Make some body really angry. threaten to cut off all such subsidies across party lines instead of allowing both parties to play gotcha. "
napablogger wrote on Apr 13, 2008 10:18 PM:
Bill wrote on Apr 14, 2008 4:42 PM:
The jury is still out but the rush to corn has stampeded US politicians from both parties into the fold of the farm lobby, a lobby that no longer represents the interests of farmers but corporate interests of industrial farms.
The refusal to recognize the linkage to immigration, food prices, many societies changing food habits to the demand for meat and the pressure the US agricultural economic policy exerts around the globe is a grave mistake. We subsidize millionaires while demanding that a peasant living hand to mouth with nothing more than a mule to work his small subsistence acreage compete with us, that’s NAFTA and the double edged sword of farm subsidies including ethanol.
I know you love your grapes but many of the biggest names in Napa valley grape and wine productions are receiving subsidies through the farm bill. Two of the biggest names in sales are on the list, except that one comes from another county, and several more names are the top dogs of Napa fame. It is corporate industrial agriculture and Napa is right in the middle of it.
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steph wrote on Apr 15, 2008 7:31 PM:
vocal-de-local wrote on Apr 16, 2008 12:38 AM:
Someone shared with me statistics from a news article the other day and I do not know where they found them. I could find out if you're interested. It seems now, people with greater level of resources are having more children in the U.S.
Lower birth rates used to be associated with health care availability. Don't know if it's still true. I suppose if a mother was assured her offspring had a greater chance of survival, she would have fewer of them.
But food availability is another matter. If you take a country with historically fluctuating agricultural production, women probably reproduce at higher rates during high availability to compensate for increased mortalilty during low availability.
Consider any arid, drought prone region combined with an existing high population. How does the population become high in the first place? It' doesn't happen by accident. Their population increased beyond capacity when droughts were minimal and when they were provided food by outsiders.
The inevitable happens and they become food deprived once again. Their population remains too high to ever reach economic stability and the rest of the world enables them to remain that way. High levels of population make economic stability difficult to manage.
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Native74 wrote on Apr 16, 2008 8:42 AM:
I was actually slack jawed reading your article and had to revisit who actually wrote it. Party lines have really blurred in recent times especially when it comes to this whole trumped up AGW...follow the money I always say.
As for the farm subsidies, I'm sure you've heard about the fiasco in Texas where 10 acre ranchettes were abusing the system and I'm sure it's just the beginning. It's a shame that's for sure. "
JimClark wrote on Apr 16, 2008 9:44 AM:
When we are taxed to death, we have to rely on the "government" to take care of us.
Is this really what the founders believed they were giving The People? No!! karl marx did.
We need to start recalling legislators and leaning hard on the bozos that created these conditions.
What you need to do is copy your letters and blogs to your word processor and email them to the bozos that supposedly represent you.
There is more to humankind than politics. Politics is the illegitimate child of Philosophy. Ethics, Morals, Principles; in a word, HONOR is the machine. The machine, when tuned properly, will give us back our Freedom.
Peace, love and subjugation? "
vocal-de-local wrote on Apr 16, 2008 11:34 AM:
Sandra wrote on Apr 17, 2008 9:43 AM:
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Apr 17, 2008 10:37 AM:
Great post, right on target. I especially liked the bit about the "pious" drivers. I have noticed that those same drivers appear to have a smug, self-righteous look on their faces and are often rude drivers as well. They must feel they have the "pious" right-of-way. But when all is counted, the pious may not have a lesser carbon footprint. Think of the environmental cost of the batteries, both manufacturing and recycling. It may wipe out whatever saving there was in oil.
Yes we need to be much more efficient but so many of these green things are just not well thought out. This is mainly because AGW is really a social engineering tool for the elites.
I heard algore a few days ago saying that anyone who didn't believe in global warming was so backward thinking that they must also think the earth is flat. Like Reagan told Gorbachev "tear down that wall" we need to tell algore to "tear down your big houses" before we listen to him any more.
By the way, the earth really is flat - isn't it? Otherwise flamingos would just roll off . . .
P. P. Flamingo "
a teacher wrote on Apr 18, 2008 3:04 PM:
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Apr 18, 2008 4:53 PM:
a teacher wrote on Apr 18, 2008 7:46 PM:
Sandra wrote on Apr 19, 2008 8:37 AM:
a teacher wrote on Apr 19, 2008 2:16 PM:
vocal-de-local wrote on Apr 19, 2008 2:59 PM:
Now their goal is to oppose environmentalism in favor of saving the world. Many are unwilling to see the inevitable destiny of starvation due to over population - a topic many of them do not want to address. Environmentalism IS conservation. Notice the word "conserve' in there? I thought that "conserve' was what "conservatism" was all about. Or was the "conserve" part only about money?
It's just mind boggling that so many conservatives have jumped on this "save the world population" bandwagon. "
a teacher wrote on Apr 19, 2008 3:57 PM:
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Apr 19, 2008 5:32 PM:
ppflamingo
(made with recycled plastic) "
a teacher wrote on Apr 19, 2008 6:05 PM:
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Apr 20, 2008 10:55 AM:
Detroit has been working on greener vehicles and we are starting to see the results. I agree that they could do more. I also said that Prius is a marketing ploy and probably does not have an overall (automotive cradle to grave) lower carbon footprint because of the environmental costs of producing, disposing and recycling the batteries. It has been successful because Toyota is a marketing powerhouse. Prius does have its value as an interim step and experience gained in marketing alternative technologies.
Here's an example of problems achieving automotive green. The 1992 Honda Civic VX Hatchback weighed 2074 lbs. and had an EPA rating of 39 city/49 highway (2008 EPA standard - the 1992 rating was 48/55!) The new 2008 Honda Fit weighs 2432 lbs. and is 2008 EPA rated 28/34. The extra weight is the problem. More safety features (side crash beams, dual air bags) and comfort demands (everyone wants standard A/C and power locks, windows, etc.) Source: AutoWeek magazine, April 21 issue - which you should read, it's their first of two automotive green issues.
That Sharpton/Robertson commercial is an Al Gore production. "Tear down your big houses and sell your big SUVs, Al Gore, and then you might establish some credibility." "
a teacher wrote on Apr 20, 2008 1:20 PM:
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Apr 21, 2008 8:29 AM:
JimClark wrote on Apr 21, 2008 9:11 AM:
Sandra wrote on Apr 21, 2008 11:07 AM:
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Madison Jay Hamilton wrote on Apr 21, 2008 11:03 PM:
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Apr 22, 2008 6:39 AM:
I am not connected by employment or investment with any large or even a medium sized corporation in any way. Flamingos are not parrots. I do my own thinking for myself. "
Sandra wrote on Apr 22, 2008 8:08 AM:
a teacher wrote on Apr 22, 2008 12:40 PM:
You are surely not trying to link temperature changes on Mars to Earth, Sandra. It's a different planet, with a different orbit, a different geology and atmosphere. As far as we know, there is no life there. We only have 50 years of detailed data on it. Any attempt to generalize Mars climate changes to Earths is just plain BAD science. "
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Apr 22, 2008 1:15 PM:
a teacher wrote on Apr 22, 2008 5:25 PM:
Sandra wrote on Apr 22, 2008 7:30 PM:
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?re "
Sandra wrote on Apr 22, 2008 7:34 PM:
a teacher wrote on Apr 22, 2008 8:33 PM:
Sandra wrote on Apr 23, 2008 6:42 PM:
a teacher wrote on Apr 23, 2008 8:49 PM:
a teacher wrote on Apr 23, 2008 11:23 PM:
Sandra wrote on Apr 24, 2008 6:06 PM:
a teacher wrote on Apr 24, 2008 8:28 PM:
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Apr 24, 2008 9:58 PM:
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Bill wrote on Apr 27, 2008 1:01 PM:
Polarization about AGW (a terrible acronym designed to curtail not expand thought) with the idea it is either conservative or liberal and therefore the domain of American political party dogma is foolish. It represents the hardened and inflexible attitude of all the argumentative processes that influence current political culture. It is the us against them blindness that lumps everyone with a different opinion or thought into a narrow category that must be defended as an absolute with no wavering but strict lock step discipline.
The sudden concern for the starving of the world is touching and linking it to the largess of Exxon Corporation more so. I’m surprised that PG&E was not mentioned for its advocacy of nuclear power plants built and operated at taxpayer expense. Let’s not confuse the issue though; people are starving because of AGW the latest blogohysterical emoticon.
It’s really all those leftwing doubters of the unrestricted free market and unregulated economic globalization advocates that are the sinister evil doers in the AGW scenario. If you don’t think exactly like I do you must be a polarized wacko and therefore an ignorant and elitist, all very conducive to informative thought.
There is not much here that could sway legitimate thought on any part of the issue but plenty that forces polarization around a pro and anti dogma.
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plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Apr 27, 2008 8:24 PM:
This is the same tactic that Michael Moore uses when the untruths and flaws in his mockumentaries are uncovered. He doesn't back up his so-called evidence, he just starts attacking those who are pointing out the discrepancies.
Therefore I lump Michael Moore (pun intended) with AlGore (one lump or two?) together as disreputable messengers of untruths, and if my saying so gets me accused of shooting messengers, then just wait a second while I reload.
By the way, I don't see this as a left-right argument, I see it as a truth-untruth argument. There are many people (and flamingos) on both sides of the aisle on this. "
a teacher wrote on Apr 27, 2008 9:01 PM:
Bill wrote on Apr 27, 2008 9:39 PM:
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Apr 28, 2008 1:05 AM:
At 1:01PM of the 27th, you said "Al Gore? Well if you don’t like the message shoot the messenger.
At 1:20PM on the 20th, in a response to one of my posts, a teacher said "I think that if Mr. Gore gave away all of his possesions and walked around in monks robes, people would still find something to pick at. I say argue with the message, not the messanger."
OK, while you did not directly accuse me personally of shooting the messenger, both comments came directly after my posts about Al Gore, no other posts were in between. So it appeared to me that your 'messenger' comments were in response to my statements about Al. I stand corrected in part if you were not directly responding to me, but my post still stands as a response to those who think I am only attacking the messenger.
BTW, I still think the bit about Al walking around in monks robes evokes a hilarious mental picture . . .
ppflamingo "
a teacher wrote on Apr 28, 2008 9:23 AM:
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Apr 28, 2008 10:59 AM:
On that we are in perfect agreement!
So sayeth the flock of recycled (I hope) plastic pink flamingos in my yard. "
Bill wrote on Apr 28, 2008 1:20 PM:
plasticpinkflamingo wrote on Apr 28, 2008 2:02 PM:
You directed the question at me and so I answered it. Rather than feeling flattered, I feel exasperated. It seems that anyone who questions Al is charged with shooting the messenger. That is not a defense or a rebuttal, just a mere attempt at misdirection.
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Sandra wrote on Apr 28, 2008 5:11 PM: