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Wednesday, March 26, 2008
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3 p.m.One by one, custodians are removing desks and chairs from Dumpsters across Napa Valley Unified School District.

All week, school Dumpsters brimmed with desks, chairs and picnic tables to make room for a new shipment of furniture for Napa schools. Now, after a public outcry, the furniture will find a haven in storage facilities until school officials decide what to do with the mountains of unused desks and chairs.
In 2002, voters passed Measure M, the $95 million NVUSD school bond that budgets $1.5 million for the replacement of student furniture. The funds cover the replacement of up to half of NVUSD’s student furniture, said Don Evans, NVUSD director of school planning and construction.

With students on spring break, custodians busied themselves with the task of tossing old furniture into the garbage in time for the arrival of the new furniture this week.
Discarded furniture ranged from decades old to relatively new. Each principal was charged with determining which and how much furniture to throw away, said Evans.

At some schools, the number of discarded desks reached into hundreds.
Nearly all of the discarded desks and chairs are functional, said NVUSD custodians.

Some, said Evans, were clearly unusable.

It took no time at all for the community to respond with outrage. With districts across the state faced with potentially severe budget cuts, even custodians complained about throwing away perfectly good furniture.

Evans explained that the district is legally precluded from donating the furniture because it was purchased with public funds. Past attempts by the district to sell furniture proved unsuccessful, he said.

Some citizens took matters into their own hands, driving out to schools and filling the backs of their trucks with desks to donate to local organizations.

Evans said he was inundated with phone calls and e-mails complaining about the discarded furniture.

So on Wednesday — with about half of the Dumpsters already delivered to the local recycling facility — Evans put an immediate stop to the process because of what he called “some bad feelings in the community.”

“I have people right now going to every one of the schools to tell the head custodians to store the used furniture on campus,” he said.

“We thought we had a pretty good game plan,” said Evans, adding, “I just can’t afford to have the school district put in this light. We need to go back.”

“We need to make people feel that we do care, as we do,” he added.

Evans said he put a stop to the recycling “long enough for me to determine what plan will best meet the needs of providing a reuse of those furnishings that are reusable, and at the same time ensure that the furniture that aren’t get into a good, positive recycling situation.”

In the meantime, the Napa Recycling and Waste Services will do its best to donate the furniture it has already collected.

“The school district cannot give it away for free, but it’s now our property,” said Tim Dewey-Mattia, recycling public outreach coordinator. “We have control and try to recycle and give away as much as possible.”

“Any items we get from the school district or otherwise, we have a reuse center,” said Dewey-Mattia, noting that he is working with a local redistribution and salvage center called eco-Organize.

Toni Renee Vierra, owner of eco-Organize, said she is investigating the possibility of donating to local nonprofits and charter schools, as well as schools in neighboring districts.

“If anybody needs this material, we have it, we’d love to reuse it, and it’s the best way, as opposed to sending it to a landfill,” said Dewey-Mattia. For information about acquiring used furniture, contact Napa Recycling and Waste Services at 255-5200.
59 comment(s)

winemd wrote on Mar 26, 2008 3:19 PM:

" Thank goodness Napa Waste and Recycling and eco-Organize want to do the right thing! If the district can't give the furniture away (which still seems silly), then go ahead and send them to the dump, who can reduce, reuse, and recycle properly. "

napabicycler wrote on Mar 26, 2008 3:19 PM:

" This still does not justify whose idea it was in the first place to make such a stupid, wasteful move when the money could have gone to something more beneficial to the children. "

treeman wrote on Mar 26, 2008 3:31 PM:

" It is always interesting to see how the masses huddled together in public outcry, can make a difference.
Perhaps now "We The People", can keep closer to the events before they get out of control again.
Nice job. "

Sickothis wrote on Mar 26, 2008 3:34 PM:

" Hehe.. Storage? Perfect. I figured out how much storage spaces cost the hard way. Waste of money "

lousy naive ignorant napan wrote on Mar 26, 2008 3:39 PM:

" “I just can’t afford to have the school district put in this light. We need to go back.”

You can't turn back time. It was a bad idea to start with and you got called on it. People have already formed opinions, and rightfully so. "

opiniagirl wrote on Mar 26, 2008 4:06 PM:

" They should have some sort of auction. This akes me wonder what other types of waste is happening. I heard rumors that Sac Schools threw away working computers to get new ones...under the same excuse "we're not allowed to donate them or give them away." "

napaao wrote on Mar 26, 2008 4:10 PM:

" because of "public outcry" what, because of the comments that we left? uhh hello??? why would they throw them away to begin with? they could be used in homes, or in home offices. you know what i mean? well at least they are dumpster diving them out now! haha, im glad they are taking them out now its not a waste YAY!!! yay for recycling!!!! :) "

hoozcryinow wrote on Mar 26, 2008 4:15 PM:

" Why are we replacing the usable furniture in the first place? With the budget constraints the school districts are under, aren't there better places to put this money than replacing what can still be useD? "

Skip M. wrote on Mar 26, 2008 4:24 PM:

" By the way: Congratulations to everyone that participated in this forum. Clearly we have a victory we can all be proud of (all be it a small one). Just don’t let the scoundrels think they have wiggled themselves off the hook. "

Straight Talk wrote on Mar 26, 2008 4:32 PM:

" Good job Napa Register, blog site moderator, and community. Wow! Talk about democracy in action. The story broke this morning... community responded immediately... changes were and are being made. I'm still not happy about the decision to destroy perfectly good equipment. I am happy that our community took action and made a change. I'd like to see that happen more often. "

JMB wrote on Mar 26, 2008 5:25 PM:

" I am overwhelmed and in awe that blog comments could make a difference. And more kudos to the people who directly phoned and emailed the district. I have never been this amazed at what the community collective could do to stop an insane decision. By the way, why can't an appeal be made to the powers that be about allocation of resources? "Here's money for new furniture", "We don't need that much, can't we have new textbooks instead?" "

funnyme wrote on Mar 26, 2008 5:30 PM:

" I went to Y.E.S. (Yountville Elementary School) and they had some desks, tables and chairs "nicely" piled up with yellow "caution" tape around them; some other furniture was in the locked dumpsters area.
I will swing by later on and keep you posted to see if the "latest report" is TRUE or FALSE.
We should still get Mr. Evans out of his chair; what he is doing is A DISGRACE!
Perfectly good furniture in storage DOES NOT BENEFIT ANYONE!

I STILL WANT MY MONEY BACK!

Kudos Skip M...and all of you. YEAH!
"

gypsy wrote on Mar 26, 2008 5:33 PM:

" What amazes me is not the public ignorance of how school funding works. Nor is it the hubris of the school district in thinking "nobody was watching." It's not even that as these perfectly good desks sat at other sites, several Napa High classrooms had to make do with broken ones, or go short a few, from the opening of school in August until late January. That is what I've come to expect from my workplace, NVUSD.

No, what really infuriates me is that as high school students and their teachers are forced to use brand-new, expensive, inferior textbooks (thanks, NCLB!) instead of the perfectly good novels and other materials we had before, NOBODY speaks out about that.

As you in the comment section spew about "waste" and how awful the school district is, you are all missing the forest for the trees. It is sad, frustrating, and frightening. If you'd only listened, you could have just as much positive impact on the education (and miseducation) of our students. You're all choosing to get involved in the easy stuff and taking a "hands-off" approach to the really hard stuff, the things that you might actually have to investigate for longer than three minutes and which might challenge your deeply held prejudices. Go ahead and pat yourselves on the back. Congratulations, citizens of Napa. You've saved about 300 desks from going in a landfill while allowing the education of your young people slip silently down the commode. "

Sandra wrote on Mar 26, 2008 5:44 PM:

" I have to wonder...if this furniture was still usable, why, oh why was the school district asking for money for it to be replaced in the first place????? We passed a bond to replace furniture that did not need replacing.....really great use of our tax money...Way to go School District!!!! "

sotto voce wrote on Mar 26, 2008 5:45 PM:

" Too late, Don Evans. Next time ANY bond measure for schools comes up, I will remember how you and your ilk operate. I did not work my fingers to the bone just so you can throw away good stuff. I do not operate my household/business like that. Why should you, and make me pay? "

DinoSilver wrote on Mar 26, 2008 5:51 PM:

" I agree with opiniagirl - what other perfectly good items are thrown away? The desks and chairs were discovered because this was such a big item. And, the second item - how do we go about changing whatever rule/law it is that the school cannot donate or give away used items. We need a much better green policy than this! "

codsmom wrote on Mar 26, 2008 6:05 PM:

" Lets all remember that as upset as we were about this decision it was only a few " higher up" people from the district that made it. The schools are still desperate for funds and the teachers and students need our support. The teachers are struggling to give our kids an amazing education with a little bit of funds. If only we were as outraged about the governor cutting education as we were about the district throwing away desks. Maybe them something would get done. "

Cadence wrote on Mar 26, 2008 6:57 PM:

" I could be wrong, but it seems to me that decision makers capable of such waste didn't start with these desks. Can the grand jury look into this, or are schools' inner workings not accessible to the chumps who pay the bills? "

napavalleyman wrote on Mar 26, 2008 7:13 PM:

" What a wonderful example of wasteful and arrogant bureaucrats refusing to consider the will of the people they are supposed to represent, refusing to be practical, refusing to be fiscally responsible, and refusing to come up with creative solutions!

And what a wonderful example of the power of the people, especially in this age of interactive conversation freely played out on the real-time Internet!

Can the Register please reprint the text of Measure M, so those of us who care about this fiasco can be knowledgeable concerning Mr. Evans’ assertions that this furniture cannot be disposed of charitably?

And can the Register look into the possibility of initiating a complete accounting of every piece of furniture that has so far been disposed of, and of every piece of furniture that has been, or will be, placed in storage, especially concerning where that storage is located, and what the cost will be? "

ConcernedMomof 3 wrote on Mar 26, 2008 7:20 PM:

" ok people I read a lot of complaining but NO one has really come up with a solution that the district can use.. The money from measure M has to be use for improvemets and nothing else.. "

pbfallon wrote on Mar 26, 2008 8:30 PM:

" DON EVANS: If you had run Evans Airport Service in this manner, you would have gone belly up decades ago!

You should have found a way not to trash the items in the first place. But, that was the easy thing to do...for shame! "

Dwayne wrote on Mar 26, 2008 8:42 PM:

" Now, when I take my child to school every day after Spring break, I wonder how I am going to deal with the whiners about the budget and job cuts. It ain't gonna be pretty, especially if they give me the bureaucratic song and dance about how the money must be spent for specific things (furniture). I have to say that I am infuriated that this happened at all.... "

napamartha wrote on Mar 26, 2008 8:48 PM:

" Why does it take public outcry for Mr. Evans to use common sense? "

LMW wrote on Mar 26, 2008 9:23 PM:

" Now that is leadership....listening to the community....I apologize for speaking to suddenly on Mr. Evans....this should set example of how we can make our own changes when we care!!!!

"

roni8877 wrote on Mar 26, 2008 9:24 PM:

" I have thought about this all day. It is just wrong and so disrfespectful to the dedicated people who came out to vote for this money for the school district.
Mr Evans was erragent enough to actually think people would never know what took place.
I commend the Napa Register for printing this news.
People have every right to know where their tax dollars are going.
I really feel Mr. Evans needs to retire.
I hope the Board of Education will use this situation to re write guide lines about how money is going to be used in classrooms. "

steph wrote on Mar 26, 2008 10:21 PM:

" But...the money for the new-new furniture--that's already been contracted and spent, right? I'm outraged, but not surprised. This is only the visible government waste. Just one example of so many. "

JimClark wrote on Mar 27, 2008 2:17 AM:

" Jeez! I wrote this yesterday.
auction off this so-called waste. Why do we have to tell our representatives what to do? Didn't you vote for them to be smart?

WOW!!! I don't have to figure out a 1 from am l!! One from an L "

napagramma wrote on Mar 27, 2008 7:07 AM:

" So ....the money can only be used for improvements and nothing else. If the district is so well off that the only "improvement" they can dream up is to throw away perfectly good furniture to buy new, then I would say they really dont have a need at all. Why on earth would one spend money on something they dont need just to have the money and spend it? If you had an extra 100.00 would you throw something out of your house just so you could spend the extra 100.00? That is absurd. I'm flat sick of the arrogance of our government to spend my hard earned money on whatever they want without a care in the world. "

tfytmp wrote on Mar 27, 2008 7:08 AM:

" American society has become the "throw out" society. We all need to use items as long as possible and then recycle the old. I see so much being thrown away that still has a lot of use in it. "

yamamama wrote on Mar 27, 2008 7:44 AM:

" Gypsy - you are so right. NVR - how about a report on the cost to both students and taxpayers that is incurred when perfectly good (and more challenging) books are replaced with the dumbed-down anthologies and other textbooks that teachers are forced to use. "

lousy naive ignorant napan wrote on Mar 27, 2008 8:34 AM:

" I would just like to throw it out there that voters approved this measure. Those who oppose measures like this "don't care about the education of America". I just ask people to remember this situation next time voters are asked to throw more money at the school district. Don Evens is NOT off the hook for this, but neither are Napas voters.
There is clearly something wrong with the system, and I hope that this will make the people in the school district open their eyes and see that changes need to be made. "

eyeonnapa wrote on Mar 27, 2008 8:40 AM:

" While I don't agree with the regulations limiting the school district's ability to recycle these items, I do not believe that personal and professional attacks on Don Evans are at all in order. When you consider the condition that surrounding school district's are in at this time, we should be commending Mr. Evans and others in keeping our district "in the black". I have seen EXTRAORDINARY efforts on the part of this man in particular to keep this district moving forward in very difficult times. His heart is in the right place and he has committed his career to your children and this community. Has something gone wrong here? Probably, but let's listen to the whole story before we we make such hasty, rude and UNINFORMED comments. Haven't any of you ever had a job that prevented you from doing what you felt was right because of it's "legal policies"? GIVE THIS PUBLIC SERVANT WHO HAS WORKED HARDER FOR YOUR CHILDREN THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THIS VALLEY A BREAK! "

napabicycler wrote on Mar 27, 2008 9:16 AM:

" Let’s not forget the first article stated that the school Principals decided how many desks were to be thrown away at each school. Parents, PTA members, be sure to ask your school Principals if there wasn’t a better way to spend this money. "

JimClark wrote on Mar 27, 2008 9:41 AM:

" As I said in yesterday's article, auctioning would at least recover some of the costs. "

Sandra wrote on Mar 27, 2008 9:50 AM:

" To ConcernedMomof 3, & codsmom, I think you both miss the point. One of you says the money needs to be used for improvements only...well if the improvements were not needed, why was the money asked for in the first place? And if the improvements were needed there must have been better ways to spend the money....or was it just a matter of asking for way too much money? Either way, it was wasteful. And as for the classrooms and teachers needing money to teach...well , isn't this the administrators job, to figure out where the money is needed and how it should be spent???? If the money is needed for the classroom why are they asking for money for desks??? "

JimClark wrote on Mar 27, 2008 11:46 AM:

" If money is to be saved, why not do what I did in kintergarten as at home? Sit on a carpet and enjoy. "

Napathots wrote on Mar 27, 2008 12:32 PM:

" I think its very healthy that citizens speak up when they disagree with situations such as this. And the school district is to be commended for listening and taking action.
I think we should declare "be kind to janitors week" for all those janitors who had to take the desks down and then take them out of the pile again. They do all that work -right in the middle of spring break! "

sblanc79 wrote on Mar 27, 2008 1:43 PM:

" I was appalled to see all those desks in the dumpster, and I am reminded of my grandfather of many years ago that worked for the Vallejo School District. When the school district went to electric clocks he was instructed to remove all the old oak windup clocks and put them on a pile and burn them. Wouldn't we all love to have one of those beautiful clocks today? "

John Richards wrote on Mar 27, 2008 3:45 PM:

" I agree with "sotto voce." I won't vote for any school bonds until I'm convinced the money won't be wasted. "

hudds5 wrote on Mar 27, 2008 4:28 PM:

" the kids finally get new desks and people are wondering if they should have voted for this in the past? this might be the last time students gets anything new for awhile. donating the old desk would be better than putting it all in a dumpster but some of the desks were long over due for the dumpster. i hear a lot of whining but no real solution to this issues...as usual. "

a teacher wrote on Mar 27, 2008 7:52 PM:

" I don't think that some of you all understand how school funding works. The impression I get from reading and talking to administrators is this: School districts are allocated a fixed amount of funds. These funds are divided into categories by law - that is, the district has little say in how much it can spend on new furniture, it's "fixed" for them. Further, if the money isn't spent, it's lost, you can't save it for next year. So, what's a district to do if it has, say $1 million to spend on new furniture, and if they don't spend it, they lose it (and there is no garuntee that they'll get it next year)? Administrators complain that it's not so much that they just want more money(they do) but they want the discretion to spend it where it is needed. However, their hands are tied by the law(that we Californians have been cheerfully voting in during the last 30 years). "

a teacher wrote on Mar 27, 2008 7:54 PM:

" BTW. What is REALLY annoying about this, from a teacher's point of view, is that old furniture is of better quality than the new furniture. Also, what GYPSY said... "

Just Another Mom wrote on Mar 27, 2008 9:00 PM:

" Imagine-if you all directed your energy away from a bunch of broken desks and toward the state and federal representatives who create budget cuts, unfunded mandates, and illogical laws that tie the hands of hardworking local people. Everyone here has a good point, but I doubt our representatives in Sacramento read this board. Instead of directing you ire at Don Evans, send a letter to Noreen Evans. If you change education, you change the future of the world! "

steph wrote on Mar 27, 2008 10:34 PM:

" Dear teacher, "the money" is taxpayer money. "The money" comes from my paycheck and yours. If "the money" is not spent, it's not spent, but it is not "lost". Ideally, the state that took my money and your money and your neighbor's money would be able to reallocate tax dollars to services that the taxpayers really need. Don't ever forget that money spent by government agencies comes from taxpayers, many of whom, including me, are weary of hearing sob stories about the state not having enough money. Boy oh boy oh boy. This is just ONE obvious example of mismanagement, and the adults involved ought to be ashamed of themselves! "

a teacher wrote on Mar 28, 2008 8:53 AM:

" Steph. Perhaps you should re-read what I wrote. I know that the money is tax money and is being wasted. No argument from me. My point is that the blame isn't "them", it's us. WE vote for spineless politicians and then tie thier hands. We vote for propositions that restrict how money is spent and that, as an unintended(well I'm not convinced about it being unintentional) consequence, schools have some rather strange choices about how to spend their money.. And if WE want better schools, WE had better start coming up with some ideas. The blame falls on all of us in this situation. "

winemd wrote on Mar 28, 2008 9:45 AM:

" Personally, I don't have a problem with buying new desks with funds that were allocated for that purpose, especially when in some cases the new desks were really needed. My problem was with the waste of furniture that is still usable with a little effort needed to fix them up. I have kids in elementary school and I am still glad I voted for the bond money. I also think it could have been handled better from a public relations point of view, because there are many people who will now automatically vote no on bonds for schools because this has left a bad taste in their mouths. "

Skip M. wrote on Mar 28, 2008 11:45 AM:

" To A Teacher: Your comment “if the money isn't spent, it's lost, you can't save it for next year” is patently false. Many in my family have been in the civil service arena for generations. My Grandfather was the Chief of Police in Napa in the 50s and early 60s. My father was District 2 Superintendent for CalTrans. The money would not be lost, and the administrator could transfer those funds to a holding account. The money must be used for the original intent, but it can be held and used for the specified purpose at a later date. It requires a slight bit of effort on the part of the administrator to make the continued justification. But typical administrators simply take the easy route of blowing the money so that they can show that it was used, rather than really thinking (and working) through the process. Gypsy: I have really heard enough of the whining about NCLB. We all have to perform our jobs to certain standards, and are held accountable to meet those standards or find new jobs. Why should teachers be any different? As a matter of fact, teachers, having the future of our children in their hands every day, should be held to the highest of standards. With all due respect, when I speak with teachers that complain about NCLB, they are generally the ones that simply object to being held accountable. I speak with (or mail) my children’s teachers at least once a week. Not because my children are having any problems (they are not), but because I am an involved parent. From my observations, NCLB is not the problem, uninvolved and apathetic parents are the biggest problems teachers face. "

a teacher wrote on Mar 28, 2008 12:31 PM:

" Skip M: I could be wrong, but I don't think so. School funds are different than Caltrans and the Police Department. They have specific rules about how the money is spent. The impression I get from talking to my principals over the years is this: if we don't use it, we lose it AND if we don't use it, they assume we don't need it and will give us less next year (when we might need it). Perhaps there is someone more knowledgeable about SCHOOL FUNDING who can clarify this. My point (which you must have missed) is that school officials are bound up in how they can spend their money. It's wasteful, but it's not just a simple case of wasteful administrators. "

Skip M. wrote on Mar 28, 2008 2:56 PM:

" To A Teacher: The reason I make the comparison of the Police Department and CalTrans is that this idea of “Use it or lose it” is frequently cited in those environments as well. I have also held civil service positions in other states and this concept is propagated there as well. I would challenge anyone making the claim of “Use it or lose it” to present documentation of the written law, rule, or regulation that states this as fact. If I am shown where this actually exists in writing, I will back off of the contention that this is a myth. However, if I were to have documentation of such a requirement, you can bet I would use that information to work for it’s revocation. One thing I have learned over the years (if not the only thing), is that if it is not on paper somewhere, it never happened, and does not exist. "

myword wrote on Mar 28, 2008 6:04 PM:

" A little action way too late. So the decision to now pull what is left out of the dumpsters and put in storage really means the furniture will be dumped when no one is looking. And how about Robert Dean, the custodian who spoke out against this waste? Does this man still have his job? What a Hero to Napa taxpayers!! Thank you Robert Dean for telling the truth. "

opiniagirl wrote on Mar 29, 2008 3:12 PM:

" Measure M was passed in 2002. These desks were purchased since then - with measure M money and are now being replaced. To say that this is measure M and the money cannot be used for other things (even more "furniture" type things is an excuse that doesn't fly with anyone. How stupid does this county and it's representatives (a teacher) think we are? This is teachers whining that they want their classrooms to be "prettier" no more no less. "

Napa Teacher wrote on Mar 30, 2008 7:14 AM:

" I have 30 kids in my 4th grade classroom. Many/most of the desks I had did not work properly, and were unsafe-harming our children.

When kids would go into their desk, the arm that holds it up no longer works, so the kids would use a ruler to hold it oopen to get stuff in and out or do a desk cleaning. The ruler would pop out at the slightest move, and the top of the desk would come crashing down on the kids head.

Also, the bar (I don't know what it is called) was leaking grease/oil into the student desks so I wrapped a rag around it. 2 desks literally fell to the ground when the bolts gave out, and could not be replaced. The desk injusred a child.

Not whining, just reporting.

We have NO PLACE to store these desks and chairs on school campus. How about at your job you hold on to the garbage until some "activists" figure out what to do with it. I don't see any of the complainers coming up with a solution.

C'mon people. Our children deserve your support, and as their teacher, I am their voice.
These are awesome kids. They are busting their behinds to improve, do well on the state test (because we have to) and just be a kid in a safe environment. "

Napa Teacher wrote on Mar 30, 2008 7:17 AM:

" Get educated.
Go to a school site council meeting, or check with the district. These funds are for furniture. Not to be used any other way.
If you think it is not, then say where you get your information. I would really like to know because I would like to use some of the money for our students.
School budgets are a unique and can't be compared to other state funded systems. "

Skip M. wrote on Mar 30, 2008 4:32 PM:

" To A Teacher: I find it interesting that when I post the challenge to give the specific rule or regulation (and how this can be found independently) stating that issue is quickly dropped and you launch into the state of disrepair of the equipment in your classroom. I do not believe anyone here is saying they do not want the children to have furniture and equipment in good repair. In fact, if a piece of equipment (a desk) in my children’s school was in need of repair and the school told me they could not afford to repair it, I would be down to the local hardware store buying the materials needed to do the job myself. And if the school were to prevent me from doing the repair job out of my own pocket, then I would conclude that another agenda is the problem. In fact, I once salvaged a discarded school desk (1960s era) and reconditioned it for my nieces. I know for a fact that the parts for these things can be obtained at any hardware store.

As for your “get educated” comment, that is just downright arrogant. As I have commented before, I am in regular communication with my children’s schools and teachers. I know exactly what is going on there, and I do put my money (beyond what I am taxed) where my mouth is.
"

Skip M. wrote on Mar 30, 2008 4:34 PM:

" A requirement to spend funds on the need they were allocated for does not mean throw away equipment that is in good repair in order to buy new equipment. "

a teacher wrote on Mar 31, 2008 8:07 PM:

" Well, Skip, you're mistaking me for someone else (a napa teacher, perhaps), since I haven't complained about my classroom. In addition, you did post your challenge(you did not, however, state "how this can be found independently"). You could very well be right, but I think that the truth isn't as simplistic as incompetetent and wasteful adminstrators. I do know for a fact that there are rules and deadlines for spending money because I've had to justify exspenses and follow deadlines. Perhaps YOU could explain what happens to the money. You seem to be making a lot of assumptions based on reather limited experience. "

a teacher wrote on Mar 31, 2008 8:13 PM:

" Opiniagirl: I don't work for this county(and therefore, I don't represent it). My only concern is that my kids go to school here. I think throwing away perfectly good desks is a waste. I just think that you are looking for a simple answer to what is a complicated issue. This is more than wasteful people, I think it's people faced with poor choices. "

Skip M. wrote on Apr 1, 2008 9:36 AM:

" A Teacher: What we have here is proof that I am fallible. I got you and “Napa Teacher” confused. As to how my Dad went about retaining budgeted funds across periods, you are right, I don’t know all the particulars. But I do know my Dad, and he is impeccably honest. So I take him at his word on the budget issues. Yes, there are generally timeframes in which monies must be spent. However, justifications can be made for exceeding those timelines. This is what my Dad alluded to with regard to retaining allocated funds across periods. However, this is not to say that funds were continually stockpiled. The funds were inevitably spent, but they were spent wisely. So, again, I would really like to see what rule, regulation, or law that stipulates allocated funds may not be carried over between periods (assuming they are ultimately spend for the intended purpose). In the mean time, please accept my apologies for the mix-up between you and “Napa Teacher”. "

a teacher wrote on Apr 1, 2008 6:48 PM:

" Don't sweat it SkipM. I'm not doubting you father. What I'm saying is that the rules for school money are quite complicated and Byzantine and that that is directly a result of the several California Initiatives that have been voted on in the past 30 years and that school funding is no longer a local concern, but determined by the state. It could very well be that this whole episode is a result of lazy school officials, but I would bet that it is more likely a result of the wild and wacky way we fund schools. Still, throwing out perfectly good furniture is very foolish. "

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