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Life in America: Cows before people
Monday, February 25, 2008
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Recently, a video came across the Web, showing a cow laying down in a building. Someone was spraying it from a water hose. The caption said the cow was being “sprayed with cold water” to get it to walk to the slaughtering site.

I don’t know what the temperature of the water was, but this exploded into an example of mistreatment of farm animals. The sprayer lost his job.
The company CEO made a public apology. Worst of all, beef sales declined.

Schools across the nation took beef off of their lunch menus.
Obviously, we are very concerned about the comfort and well being of our farm animals. We are sensitive and caring people.

Meanwhile, for several years now we have seen this administration defending so-called Enhanced Interrogation Techniques as useful tools to get information from suspected terrorists. Enhanced Interrogation Techniques have been called torture by those who respect the Geneva Conventions. This administration has called that document, probably written by bleeding heart liberals, obsolete and inappropriate for the world we live in.
Vice President Dick Cheney recently spoke at a Conservative Political Action Conference. He contended that Enhanced Interrogation Techniques, including waterboarding, aren’t torture and we need enhanced techniques. He got a standing ovation. When Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., spoke to these compassionate conservatives, he was booed. McCain has spoken out forcefully against torture. He has his reasons, having spent time in a Vietnamese prison.

The current working definition of torture is any treatment that causes organ failure or death. What Enhanced Interrogation Techniques include, other than waterboarding, is classified information. There is always the danger that terrorists might train to withstand Enhanced Interrogation Techniques if they knew how we interrogated. The secrecy, maybe intentionally, leaves much to the imagination.

Waterboarding itself came to us from the Spanish Inquisition in the Middle Ages, a golden age of Enhanced Interrogation Techniques. Those professionals also gave us thumbscrews. Who among us could not become brilliantly creative if a screw were slowly twisting into our thumb or finger? We also are indebted to the Middle Ages for the rack. This is a device on which a person is slowly bent backwards and stretched. It dislocates the joints, causing excruciating pain but the beautiful thing about it is that there is no organ failure or death.

Whether Enhanced Interrogation Techniques, even something as mild as waterboarding, are an acceptable way to treat human beings doesn’t seem to matter to the public. The debate is mostly legalistic and scholarly. One can only conclude that if you are a cow, on the way to becoming a double cheeseburger, your comfort and peace of mind is of national concern.

If you are a human being, however, especially a Muslim, and are suspected of evil, your comfort and peace of mind is of no concern to anyone. You will disappear down a black hole. Your future, if you have one, will rely on tedious discussions by legal scholars debating the significance of Habeas Corpus, Due Process, the Magna Carta and the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. For any human being anywhere, it’s best not to fall into the hands of King George and his loyal henchmen.

(Rankenburg lives in Napa.)
19 comment(s)

kevin wrote on Feb 25, 2008 8:06 AM:

" I know this is hard for you to comprehend, Bernhold, but no one is trying to torture cows. The issue deals with food safety and whether or not the cows were considered "downed animals" which are not allowed to be processed by law. And contrary to your assertion, the public is very concerned about the interrogation techniques used against our enemies. We understand the differences between uniform troops operating on a battlefield and enemy combatants who use terrorism as their primary weapon. Agressive interrogation methods, including waterboarding, have been proven to be effective and have produced information critical to American security. I totally support the use of these techniques and am glad to see common sense prevailing when it comes to preventing another attack on American soil... "

Dwayne wrote on Feb 25, 2008 8:53 AM:

" Yep. Bernhold is one of those who would rather bad-mouth George W Bush than make a known terrorist too uncomfortable in order to prevent another 9-11, or worse. God help us all. "

musikluvr wrote on Feb 25, 2008 9:11 AM:

" Here is another letter which does nothing but create confusion and incite anger and hatred. It goes from spraying a cow with a hose, to middle ages tortures, to the Magna Carta. "

Common Sense wrote on Feb 25, 2008 9:29 AM:

" Cows. We eat them. We have for tens of thousands of years. We always will. Get over it. "

TrickleDown wrote on Feb 25, 2008 12:31 PM:

" While it may be true that humans have a long history of eating beef, never in history have we eaten beef at such high levels nor has the earth had such a large population of beef eaters. The magnitude of ecological damage arising from our beef centered diet, not to mention human health, has just begun and will only continue to worsen as a trouble point for the trajectory this country is on with relation to diet. "

Common Sense wrote on Feb 25, 2008 1:04 PM:

" TrickleDown..."ecological damage"? Give me a break. The North American buffalo herds were much larger than our current hamburger herds. I agree that people seem to eat too much meat these days, but that is their decision...they can learn from it if they want to. We absolutely do NOT need another government program micromanaging our eating habits. Studies yes, fascism no. "

TrickleDown wrote on Feb 25, 2008 2:09 PM:

" Common Sense: While it is true that former bison populations are similar to the cattle populations in the united states, there is a very large difference in the ecological damage done by herds traveling over the entire midwest and tens of thousands of beef cattle confined to less than 1000 acres. This is similar to why climbers of Whitney are required to carry out their own feces whereas climibing other rarely visited peaks in the sierras only requires burying waste: the localized concentration of waste matter causes measurable ecological damage. Ask any neighboring town of a major feedlot with its accompanying cesspool if there is not a noticable difference in the local ecology via insects, smell, waste runoff in flooding, etc. To deny this is the case goes straight in the face of fact. Add to this the increased erosion of overgrazed land, the fact that a large percentage of our nation's water supplies are diverted for the feeding and production of meat, and the measurable levels cattle-fed antibiotics found in our waterways and you have a very serious ecological situation. The straw man set up where you imply that I am urging that "we should manage eating habits" is not there, but I do think that damage to this country's ecology should be managed. "

musikluvr wrote on Feb 25, 2008 2:53 PM:

" Trickledown is correct about the danger of the concentration of animal waste. A prime example is the hog farms in the southern US. The waste ponds are contaminating the ground water and the surface water. "

Common Sense wrote on Feb 25, 2008 2:55 PM:

" So, TrickleDown, how do you propose to solve the problem? "

TrickleDown wrote on Feb 25, 2008 3:49 PM:

" Common Sense: I am not sure what you are asking when you say “the” problem. There are many problems with large-scale cattle production in this country at present. Some things that need to be done, however: Return funding so that the FDA can have the necessary manpower to properly regulate the cattle industry (and other food and drug industries); Separate the conflict of interest between the department of agriculture regulating cattle farming while simultaneously promoting it; treat large-scale animal waste pollution as the environmental hazard it is, levy fines accordingly, and catch and prosecute offenders; remove government subsidies for soy and corn production for use as animal feed; curtail excessive antibiotic use and rBHT use through regulation; etc. Yes, most, if not all, of these are going to lead to a price increase at market, however if low prices are only obtained by moving costs to other areas such as environmental clean up and government subsidy then the industry is being artificially propped up already. However, a benefit that comes from these higher prices is that beef will most likely move away from the center of the American diet without regulating it intentionally, and very significant savings will be had in our medical system. Additionally, removing rBHT and antibiotics will open up our products to markets such as Europe where they are currently kept out. "

Sandra wrote on Feb 25, 2008 4:01 PM:

" just an observation....but I believe the writers intent in writing this letter was to point out the absurdity of focusing on the demise of cattle before human beings....and what are mosts of the posts about? Cattle. ;) "

kevin wrote on Feb 25, 2008 6:22 PM:

" Hey Trickle, where do I get some of those soy and corn subsidies? Right now the government pays me to NOT grow corn, but with corn prices at record highs thanks to the ethanol boondoggle I could do better by putting the land back in production. Of course all the little critters living there will have to go, but "such is life". Of all the problems facing this country, I can't see where eating meat ranks very high... "

TrickleDown wrote on Feb 25, 2008 10:07 PM:

" Sorry Kevin, but it is hard to tell which parts of your post are sarcasm and which aren't. Such is the difficulty of the written word. Yes, the subsidies are trouble on many fronts: subsidizing for non-production and subsidizing for production of crops that are immediately turned into other food such as cattle feed and corn syrup...all at the tune of 9.4 billion dollars for corn alone in 2005. Yes, corn-based ethanol is a mistake. Yes, there are many problems facing this country but to think that our food supply is not one of them is pretty crazy. Well, I guess for the current "pass it on to the next generations" generation it isn't something to worry about as we continue to cut education budgets and expect our science-illiterate following generations to solve these problems which you blow off as not a serious problem. "

common sense wrote on Feb 25, 2008 10:45 PM:

" TrickleDown, I just don't see how you can prevent your method of "regulating" from becoming like all of the other failed liberal programs...welfare, social security, medicaid, public K-12 schools, etc. Without market forces driving these changes, no real results will be obtained. Government studies and quality press are the way to change public opinions...excessive regulations, fines, and micromanagement are not. "

Suze wrote on Feb 25, 2008 11:05 PM:

" Er - Bernhold, the Magna Carta had absolutely nothing to do with King George, he came to the throne a few hundred years later, it was Charter laying out fair treatment for serfs and general population. I care about both people and cattle, and don't think either of them should be tortured with water or anything else. People are said to say anything their torturers might like to hear under extreme pain and duress. The dishonesty of the current administration leaves me unable to believe their claims that we need to actually torture. A study has proven that these folks tend to talk and reveal more information when their confidence is won with humane and confiding treatment, it is simply a more effective method. I am in total agreement with TrickleDown and the factory farming statistics. Not mentioned are the 'dead zones' of hundreds of square miles of ocean from the nitrogen runoff from all the animal wastes and crop fertilizers where no life of any kind can survive except micro-organisms. Right there you know we are on the wrong track. Nope, if we don't change our wicked ways they will be changed for us, probably in ways we won't like or survive to see. "

TrickleDown wrote on Feb 26, 2008 9:09 AM:

" Common Sense: examples to show you are incorrect: california has implemented the toughest energy efficiency standards in the country many times since the 70's and each time they do so with things such as refrigerators the efficiency goes way up and stays that way as businesses respond to the regulation. The endangered species act has prevented a number of species such as our own national bird from going extinct. CAFE standards in the 70's took the average gas mileage in the 80's to nearly 30 mpg, but turning it off in the 80's and "allowing the market to regulate" took it back to 20mpg. Ford, GM, etc. would be much more competitive not only here but in Europe and elsewhere had they not fought these government standards. Regulations on cigarettes have decreased smoking deaths in a way that the market was not going to do alone. Government intervention on CFC's reversed ozone depletion. These are all real results of regulation. Yes, the market can be a force for good, but regulation is a very efficient tool. Without a speed limit and enforcement of that limit do you think that a market argument such as speeding reducing gas mileage is going to keep people driving at safe speeds? Do you think that we would have reversed ozone depletion without governement regulation? Is self regulation and the market alone keeping lead from our children's toys? Perhaps we should not regulate anything to meet your fear of "regulating becoming like all of the other failed liberal programs?" And why must you turn every discussion you have on this board to a "liberal/conservative" thing? Why can't a discussion be about the country without introducing partisan division? "

Concerned Citizen wrote on Feb 26, 2008 1:51 PM:

" Why is the writer so threatened w/the idea of humane treatment (No! - this is not anthropormorphic) of factory farmed animals?

Is he seriously comparing the tactics used by governments to gain information to prodding, spraying and/or fork lifting a "downed" cow?

Is this for real, or is this a 'plant' to spur debate/controversy?

Somehow, the 'outed' animal abuse which occurs (apparently) daily at slaughterhouses in the U.S. is being used as an introduction to "Interogation Tactics 101." What gives?

If it threatens our country, and it has called itself our enemy, then use whatever means is necessary to glean whatever information is necessary to thwart potential harm to our citizens; our society.

C'mon, you gotta' be kiddin' me, right? Spraying a cow vs waterboarding? HaHa! Surely you jest!

And while we're on the subject; how about putting an end to the "human vs animal" argument whenever a caring person exposes blatant animal cruelty (whether we eat the beast, confine animals for our entertainment, etc.) Cruelty is cruelty, no matter what the "use" or 'purpose' "we" have deemed that animal serve for our entertainment, face stuffing, etc.

I give our gov. carte blanche to deal w/our enemies however they deem essential in order to act in our collective benefit..you know, our lives! "

kevin wrote on Feb 28, 2008 10:05 PM:

" Everything ALWAYS comes down to Conservative vs Liberal. It's just human nature. There are two distinct types of people in the world: those that want someone else to provide for them and those who would rather provide for themselves... "

glenroy wrote on Mar 9, 2008 4:33 PM:

" It all just goes to show how terribly effective cartoons and/or animated partisan videos are in influencing a seemingly growing number of politically gullible ‘intellectuals’ tying all together within their vast mental voids such things are disappearing Muslims, walking cheeseburgers and, of course, those/us despicable Republicans. And yet...these ‘intellectuals’ still wonder how this nation became so divided ignoring such obviously divisive things as public schools teaching our 1st graders the virtues of same sex parenthood, to the animals rights of beef cattle, to the unabated fleecing of the working class by their chosen leaders, to the obliviousness of their very own policy failures which brought us 9/11.... it all sounds too much like Jacobin France where mob rule, Thomas Jefferson’s ideological vision for our nation, destroyed France’s rich nation history and when there were nothing left to destroy, no heads left to chop off, having vilified all but themselves they ultimately turned to destroying themselves....could that be Obama and Hillary... leading anyone concerned with our future to ponder whether or not are we moving forward or moving backward...... in ether case the status quo despite all does seem logical....



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