" The icy roads didn't cause the spinouts, the drivers did. I lived somewhere for 5 years where there were icy roads all winter long. You just need to change the way that you drive when it is icy. Unfortunatly there are so many flatlanders here that have no clue how to drive in those kinds of conditions. "

" I agree with Joe. Driver error was most likely the cause of these crashes. People need to slow down when it's icy, especially when taking turns. I've lived in the snow and ice as well and stopping and turning is where you need to be careful. Slow down and give yourself plenty of time to stop or your gonna have a bad day. "

" OK guys. We have icy conditions a few times a year at most so it really is very unusual. People get caught by surprise because it happens so seldom so it shouldn't be surprising that there are a few minor accidents. We should be happy there were so few. I too lived back east for many years and saw amazingly irresponsible driving on icy, slick roads. I saw cautious drivers belittled and practically forced off the roads by so-called "experienced" winter drivers. Snow caused the most unbelievable traffic backup with a host of fender benders. "

" MP: Napa drivers, true, are not used to icy conditions. So, then is it fair to assume that they are not used to speed limit signs, stop lights, stop signs and merges? Again today, I witnessed the moronic drivers that attempted to turn left into Bel Aire Plaza (traveling east on Trancas). They got caught bad this time. Not only did the light turn RED while these 4 drivers were stuck in the intersection, but the Napa FD and Piner's had to wait for these people to get out of their way. I just hope that the loss of time our EMS services endured was not the cause of a loss of life.

When will we learn? Driving is a priveledge; NOT A RIGHT!
When will Napa PD get it together and put up cameras in these intersections and start generating some much needed revenue? "

" It doesn't matter if Napa doesn't get icy conditions very often. If the temperature is near freezing you should expect ice to form on the roads. It does get icy in Napa often. "

" The previous comments (Joe, FTT, Someguy) remind me of a survey I once saw: 93% of drivers believe they drive better than average. "

" Bring drivers ed back to the schools and get the unlicensed drivers off the roads. "

" fourmaplesoutback;

That's because I do. No tickets since Sept 99 and NO ACCIDENTS EVER! knock on wood! "

" To MP: Icy roads ARE a common condition in Napa Co. at the higher elevations. Howell Mt. road is sanded regularly during winter months and I assume that Mt. St.Helena is as well. Drivers who use these roads have a responsibility to NOT be caught off guard. Imagine, wanting to put a subdivision up on Howell Mt./Angwin where icy conditions and snow are not uncommon. "