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Shooting victim takes Fifth at schoolteacher hearing
Tuesday, December 04, 2007
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A hearing in the case of a Napa school teacher charged with shooting her live-in boyfriend came to a screeching halt  Monday  when the victim refused to testify under cross-examination by the teacher's defense attorney.

Roxanne McWilliams, 49, has been behind bars without bail since Sept. 8, when she admitted to firing three bullets into James Talley's back as he slept in the bedroom of the home the couple shared on Redwood Road. Talley made his way to the bathroom, where McWilliams fired two more rounds into his chest, before fleeing from the residence.
Talley, 50, came to Napa last May and met McWilliams a short time later at a neighborhood bar. He is wanted on two Texas warrants for felony family violence and violation of probation.

At Monday's hearing, attorney Merv Lernhart repeatedly questioned Talley about his criminal past in Texas. Talley, who used profanities and made direct derogatory comments about McWilliams and her family --  who filled the audience section in the courtroom -- was agitated by the questioning.
Superior Court Judge Stephen Kroyer had to admonish Talley about his profanities. Kroyer also advised him under the Fifth Amendment he did not have to answer any of Lernhart's questions about his pending legal matters with the Texas courts that could incriminate him.

Although Kroyer did his best to play referee, Talley and Lernhart continued to spar on the questions and answers of Talley's past domestic violence troubles and other criminal convictions in Texas.
After a lunch recess, Talley again took the stand and told Kroyer he was not going to answer any more of Lernhart's questions without his lawyer present. However, Talley does not have a lawyer to represent him in the criminal matter. Kroyer appointed county public defender Ron Abernethy to represent Talley. Abernethy told Kroyer he did not feel comfortable advising Talley until he was able to read all the police reports and other discovery in the case.

Abernethy suggested that Napa attorney Elisabeth Frater -- representing Talley in a personal injury civil lawsuit he has filed against McWilliams -- could also represent him in the criminal case because she is familiar with the details of the case. Talley told Kroyer that he did not have the money to retain the private services of Frater.

Kroyer recessed the preliminary hearing until Abernethy had the chance to review the case, telling Kroyer that would be sometime this week.

Tense testimony

Tensions were high when Talley -- in custody without bail in Napa for the Texas warrants -- was brought into the courtroom and took the witness stand.

Just feet from McWilliams, who sat next to Lernhart at the table in front of the bench, Talley fixed his eyes on McWilliams, who avoided all eye contact and lowered her head. Several times during the Talley's testimony, McWilliams broke down crying, shaking her head, her body shuddering.

Although there is no dispute that McWilliams emptied her revolver into Talley's upper torso, her defense is she snapped under several months of Talley's physical, emotional and sexual abuse.

McWilliams who for the past 18 years taught third grade at Pueblo Vista Elementary school in Napa and is now on unpaid administrative leave, has been charged with first-degree attempted murder. If found guilty, she could face 32 years in prison.

Under cross-examination by Lernhart, Talley testified he came to California to earn money "clean up his legal troubles in Texas."

 "You didn't come to California so not to be arrested on the warrants?" asked Lernhart.

"I told you, I came to California to work," Talley replied, adding, "Lawyers cost money."

"Do you consider yourself a violent person?" Lernhart asked.

"No, I do not," Talley answered.

Referring to a conversation Talley had with a woman he bought a truck from in Napa, who wanted him to get insurance on the vehicle since he had not transferred the title to his name, Lernhart asked, "Did you tell her to leave you alone or you would burn her house down?"

"Hell no," Talley shot back, then glaring at McWilliams, saying, "You're a piece of work. I'm glad you are going to rot in prison."

"You don't like my client?" Lernhart asked.

"Not anymore," Talley barked.

"Do you have a bad temper?" the attorney asked.

"I can hold my own," Talley answered.

Lernhart asked Talley, who told the court he had been married seven times, if he found one of his ex-wives in bed with another man.

"Yeah," he replied, adding he assaulted her and "beat the hell out of him. There was blood everywhere."

Lernhart repeatedly asked Talley if he ever threatened to harm or kill McWilliams and her family.

Talley denied after each question ever "laying a hand on her" or threatening her or her family. "I never touched her."

Talley admitted although he and McWilliams initially had a smooth relationship, it became more tumultuous. "One day it was great. The next day it was hell. It became an off-and-off relationship with me moving out several times," he said.

Talley also adamantly denied ever threatening McWilliams if she didn't withdraw money from the bank and leave Napa with him to avoid him being prosecuted for the Texas warrants.

"We were working that out. She knew about the warrants. We were hoping I'd get probation and deal with it all here," Talley said. He also testified he planned to go back to Texas and turn himself in, but he wasn't sure when.

"Did you force the defendant to engage in sexual acts with you?" Lernhart asked.

"I did not, I sure did not," Talley snapped back. "I never forced her to do anything."

Lernhart continued to ask Talley questions about his violent past with his ex-wives, which visibly upset Talley.

"What does this have to do with her shooting me three times in the back while I'm sleeping? I'm not answering any more of your questions about this. I want to have a lawyer."

'She kept shooting'

Before Lernhart cross-examined Talley, Deputy District Attorney Michelle Rollins had Talley recount the events leading up to the shooting in the early morning hours of Sept. 8.

"It had been a pretty good day. We had a discussion about (her sister) digging into my life. She has no right to get into my business," he said.

"I kissed Roxanne good night and went to bed around 10:30 p.m. I awoke to a loud noise and saw Roxanne at the end of the bed holding a pistol. I didn't know I had been shot," Talley testified.

He said he walked into the bathroom and that's when he realized he had been shot three times in the back.

"I collapsed on the bathroom floor. She came back around the corner and shot me two more times," Talley testified. "She kept shooting the gun but it ran out of bullets. I heard the click."

Talley said he was able to crawl to the bedroom, retrieve a cell phone and call 911.

Napa Police Officer Kristopher Jeny, the first officer to arrive on scene, said he found Talley lying on the bed with blood on the floor, Talley's shoulders, chest and back.

Jeny testified Talley said McWilliams shot him. Jeny said he soon saw McWilliams walking on the sidewalk approaching her residence.

As she approached, she said, "'I'm here. I'm the one you're are looking for.' She had her hands raised above her head."

McWilliams then directed investigators to where she had ditched the gun under a riding lawnmower at a nearby church.
21 comment(s)

InTheKnow wrote on Dec 3, 2007 8:13 PM:

" Great slanted reporting. SHE SHOT A SLEEPING PERSON. Go to jail do not pass go. Do not collect $200.00. Period. If you are being abused LEAVE. Sorry self defense does not cut it here no matter how nice she was or how good a teacher she was. Would you say the same thing about a male teacher who had sex with a student? HELL NO "

skiph wrote on Dec 3, 2007 8:20 PM:

" Jeez...he sounds very stable. "

starling wrote on Dec 4, 2007 12:47 AM:

" InTheKnow, obviously you have not ever been the victim of domestic abuse. This guy is not a nice person and is an habitual offender who even has current warrants to that affect! Do people honestly think that he would of let her "just leave" or would of moved out of her house with no problem? His attitude, testimony, and actions alone in court, clearly show that he controls by intimidation, threats, and physical abuse. While I am not condoning shooting a person, sometimes that is truly the only way out when you know that he will kill you and or your family if you don't. A person who threatens, intimidates, and physically abuses you wants you to understand that they will not just walk away or let you do it either. "

mominapa wrote on Dec 4, 2007 7:23 AM:

" Sure, she should have left. Sure, she shot him and did the wrong thing, but I would be willing to bet a month's pay that at the time it was the only thing that made any sense. She was scared to death. Her mistake was not thowing his sorry butt out the very first time he even "looked" like he would be violent. He says she knew about the warrants in Texas. I wonder. I sure wouldn't stay with someone I knew had warrants for domestic violence or someone I met in a bar. Did she think things would be different with her than they were with his seven ex-wives? Now, that's just stupid. I don't believe she needs to spend 32 years in prison and hope she is just sentenced to time served and some probation. Talley needs to be sent back to Texas, locked up and the key dumped in Galveston Bay. "

Sickothis wrote on Dec 4, 2007 9:24 AM:

" This is the perfect gun rights commercial. A handgun for every basket! "

NapaNana wrote on Dec 4, 2007 9:44 AM:

" Slanted reporting? InTheKnow....so sorry you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.....Left field somewhere......Roxanne is well known for opening herself to troubled people in need. She has pulled many kids through rough spots in their lives. It is her character to be kind...too help those in need. Garbage/Predators such as Talley can pick them out in a crowd. And that is what I feel he did. Just listen to the way he talks. This man has no clue to just how big of a pile he really is. He has done nothing wrong in his eyes. Re-read his testimony...the part about him beating his wife and her boyfriend. He was PROUD there was "blood all over." and to be happily married 7 times??? HELLO!! It is a given that people aren't supposed to shoot each other. That is an obvious violation of our person that can be SEEN. Mental torture is INVISIBLE! But it too is just as violent a crime. "

mike wrote on Dec 4, 2007 9:53 AM:

" This guy Tally sounds like a real work of art. I agree that anyone can and will snap under extreem abuse. My only question is why is't Napa holding this jerk for domestic violence? I do agree that Mrs. McWilliams did make an error in judgement by the way she handled the situation. But when your mind snaps judgement's and rational thinking often do not come into play intill it is to late. "

PJRosey wrote on Dec 4, 2007 9:57 AM:

" This is a teacher we're talking about. She knows what consequences are. She could have gotten help even if it was domestic violence. How can you say she deserves to be free but he deserves to be locked up? She tried to kill this man, period. Yes, I have been a victim of domestic violence, but there is help out there. That doesn't give you permission to try to kill someone! This man is someone's child, someones family, do you think of that? She deserves to pay the consequences for trying to murder a human being! "

skiph wrote on Dec 4, 2007 10:07 AM:

" I didn't understand the analogy "intheknow" used concerning sex between a student and teacher. How was reporting the testimony "slanted reporting"? Hopefully once he goes back to Texas, he'll never step foot in Napa again... "

jomar wrote on Dec 4, 2007 10:32 AM:

" InTheKnow: having sex with a student is completly different to self defense. Her being a teacher has nothing to do with her shooting a mean who she felt threatened by. it is simply a way of showing her character. I am one of those students whom she helped get through a rough time. I was very close with her and her family and this man's charter is much to be judged. Direct quotes aren't slanted reporting these things are things he actually said... I hope Talley gets sent back to Texas and stays there, locked up so he can't ever hurt another woman ever! "

Hernandezza wrote on Dec 4, 2007 10:39 AM:

" Okay yes Mr Tally is someones family but I'm sorry MEN in my family are held to a higher standard. They do not hit women or intimidate the ones they love or care about. I have a great idea for Mr Talley Go back to Texas cause women in California will stand up for themselves as Roxanne did. "

yuask wrote on Dec 4, 2007 12:31 PM:

" PJRosey, you obviously have not met Ms. McWilliams or have any knowledge of just how wonderful this woman is. She was my 5th grade teacher when she taught at Westwood Elementary. Let me just tell you that 20 years later, this woman has stayed in my thoughts and in my heart. She gave me the motivation, encouragment, and wisdom to finish high school and go to college. I am now a successful single mother of four. I own my own home, and 3 vehicles, and I would love to be the same role model for my children, like Ms. McWilliams was for me. I back this woman up 150%. As for teachers knowing what the consequences are for their actions, well this just goes to show that when we're in an abusive relationship EVEN teachers are not spared by this terrible disease. I understand Mr. Talley has a family and he is a human being; therefor he should go back to his family...in TEXAS! PJRosey, if this was your daughter, niece, or any other female relative of yours, would you be o.k. with the system putting her away for good after shooting her worthless, insecure, sick boyfriend who abused her physically, mentally, and/or sexually? I don't think so! I agree with mominapa, I hope Ms. McWilliams only gets time served and probation. Mr. Talley, I hope you get locked up in a cell and the key get thrown away for good. You've done enough damage to other human beings already. May you find peace in your soul one day...behind bars! "

yrmom wrote on Dec 4, 2007 12:56 PM:

" Okay I know that a lot of people praise this teacher and it's great that she has given so many memories to these families......but you can't just shoot someone and not pay because of your great reputation. When she saw him in that bed and knew he was asleep is when she should have gone to the police station and got a restraining order or file a complaint. I know it's just a piece of paper but if he then broke into her home or tried to hurt her and she then shot him it would have been self defense. As a teacher, she should have known not to take the law into her own hands. I am sure this man may have been harmful but he obviously wasn't while she awoke him in bed by trying to kill him. Not the best example to set for our children. We shouldn't be protecting people who don't obey the law. The parents who are telling their children that she is such a great person need to be telling them about women's help services, not saying that if someone hurts you you then have the right to kill them yourself. Hopefully this guy gets what he deserves for his history of violence but that's no excuse for what she has done. What if she "SNAPPED " on a student in reflect to her relationship????? That would be a different story all together now wouldn't it?????? "

green cookie monster wrote on Dec 4, 2007 2:28 PM:

" InTheKnow: I agree with you... That darned Register and their slanted reporting of direct quotes! "

just sayin wrote on Dec 4, 2007 3:37 PM:

" I honestly don't know how I feel about this case, but in doing some research, it seems to me the question we should ask ourselves is not "was she acting in self-defense to save her life?" but "does she suffer from battered woman's syndrome?" If she does, then the standards that make sense to you and I don't apply. I can't imagine shooting someone, but I am not a sufferer of BWS. Also, historically, victims of domestic violence who kill their abusers, even if they have NO previous criminal history, receive far harsher punishments than repeat criminals who kill. Obviously there is a visceral, knee-jerk reaction of horror when a victim kills their abuser, by why? Look up The Clemency Project or Solidarity-us.org if you would like more background information. "

kevin wrote on Dec 4, 2007 3:45 PM:

" It just says a lot about our deficient school system when a NVUSD teacher can't figure out to call an abused woman hotline. Or that maybe a phone call to the Texas Rangers about that old warrant would be an easy way to get rid of Mr. Talley. These are supposed to be Napa's best and brightest... "

Green Cookie Monster wrote on Dec 4, 2007 4:46 PM:

" kevin: Duh! I think she was being forced to leave town with him for that reason. It sounds like the sister of McWilliams had alerted the authorities when she discovered his warrant and criminal past. "

InTheKnow wrote on Dec 4, 2007 6:31 PM:

" If you have read the "crime novel" type reporting the this reporter uses in her stories you will understand what I am saying. Yes this guy appears to be and indeed may be a bad actor but sorry negative reporting about the victim and praise for the admitted shooter. I actually have a loved one who was tormented by domestic violence. Yes the support services and law enforcement were able to address the issue directly. If you want to play the game this reporter uses how about we say where the hell were her family. According to the testimony they knew about the Texas warrants. NPD would take action. Just ask. No wonder the paper is losing readership to the Times Hearld and SF Chron. "

skeptic wrote on Dec 4, 2007 8:26 PM:

" i think those who agree about the redwood dresscode should speak up. isn't it obvious to everyone that denim clothing might be the culprit ? it is the position of the school board that denim clothing can lead to violence. why isn't this vital piece of evidence as to the cause of the crime made a part of the police report and published in the paper ? perhaps the victim wore red or a small tigger picture on his socks. this has been connected to gang violence by those who oppose the a.c.l.u. aren't we taxpayers backing legal action advocating just these theories against the advice of the first judge to hear the case? just checking.couldn't this whole thing have been prevented if the teachers had to dress according to the code even when off campus ? "

napanew wrote on Dec 6, 2007 8:35 AM:

" Ms. McWilliams has always been there for her students when they needed help with any problem. She is an amazing women and teacher. I will never forget what a positive influence she had on me as a student. Ms. McWillams you are in our thoughts and prayers and we will continue to support you. "

commonsense wrote on Dec 20, 2007 9:46 AM:

" Hope she enjoys Christmas this year it looks like it will probibly be the last one not behind bars "

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