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Friday, August 17, 2007
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John Glaser, Napa's school district superintendent, released this statement to parents and the public after the district revised its dress code for Redwood Middle School.

To see the entire interim dress code, click on the link below.
www.napavalleyregister.com/articles/2007/08/14/news/local/doc46c2316503cbd354168705.txt

NAPA VALLEY UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT


SUPERINTENDENT’S STATEMENT TO PARENTS REGARDING THE   
REDWOOD MIDDLE SCHOOL APPROPRIATE ATTIRE POLICY



FOR IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE

AUGUST 10, 2007



Despite the overwhelming support of the Redwood Middle School community of teachers, parents, administrators and students who have chosen to comply with the current Appropriate Attire Policy (“AAP”), which has worked well for this community in creating a positive and safe learning environment for over 10 years, I am announcing that a revised dress policy will be in effect beginning August 20, 2007.

This policy is attached and will be available on the Redwood Middle School web page and at the orientation scheduled for August 16, 2007. 

Our decision to implement an interim revised dress policy was not arrived at lightly and, I want to emphasize, was NOT made because we think we would not prevail in the appellate and trial courts in the ongoing litigation about the current dress policy.  This decision was made to avoid the certain continued time, unreasonable expense and disruption to our primary mission of educating students that this litigation ensures.

We believe the Plaintiff’s have not engaged in any meaningful attempt to engage with us to resolve the issue and have taken steps to prematurely inflame the situation, in an apparent attempt to increase their own costs, as well as the District’s in defending it.  So we are taking this step with the intent of putting an end to this litigation and to ensure compliance with the injunction issued by the Napa Superior Court, the effect of which also remains in dispute.

The AAP is all about creating a safe and positive learning environment for students to learn without the disruption caused by gang influences and competitive fashion statements.  We do not believe that the wearing of clothing such as Tigger socks or blue jeans rises to the level of Constitutional free speech for students or that the wearing of such clothing is intended to convey a particularized message.   In fact, in its ruling issuing a preliminary injunction, the Napa Superior Court did NOT protect student fashion statements.  Instead, the court only addressed those items of clothing with a political message, such as pink ribbons in honor of breast cancer week.  We believe that no students’ free speech rights were, in fact or in intent, violated at Redwood Middle School.

Moreover, we believe the trial and appellate courts would eventually decide that the current policy is NOT a uniform policy.  Courts have clearly stated that a uniform is specific and narrowly limited in style and color.  The current AAP allows for a broad range of colors and styles and combinations thereof.  To allow parents to opt their student out of the current policy, as is required of a TRUE uniform policy, would require a level of administrative/teacher supervision and discretionary judgment to essentially enforce two separate dress codes.

By attempting to end this litigation short of going to trial, we realize that we will not have the opportunity to refute the unproven allegations that students were disciplined for wearing a Breast Cancer pink ribbon, a ragged, torn and cropped DARE t-shirt or a “Jesus Freak” t-shirt or that we probably will not be able to refute the allegations that students were not, in fact, disciplined for wearing this type of clothing.  We further regret that we probably will not be able to present our substantial evidence of gang related issues that have been prevented by this policy. 

While this case is NOT about Tigger Socks and blue jeans, we do recognize that the ACLU raised legitimate questions regarding the potential impact of the policy on constitutionally protected student free speech which is intended to convey a particularized message, such as a political or religious message, which is not disruptive of the educational environment.  The revised interim policy clarifies and addresses this concern.

The new policy is intended to be an interim policy so that members of the Redwood School Safety Committee and School Site Councils may review the policy and consider whether to adopt a TRUE uniform policy.   It is my strong recommendation that the school community consider a TRUE uniform policy, which although more restrictive than the current policy, would meet most of the interests behind the current policy and would be easier to enforce than two separate dress policies.  The Napa Police Department through their SRO program has been supportive of the AAP and state that they have observed the positive impact this policy has had on the Redwood Middle School environment and has encouraged us to find a way to keep a similar policy in place.  It is my opinion that moving toward a TRUE uniform would meet this interest as well. 

This District has had a long tradition of supporting the ability of each school community to establish their own academic culture and the AAP has served the school well for the past 10 years and notwithstanding this recommendation, we will support the school in redefining their school culture through this interim policy or a true uniform policy.

During this interim period, we are strongly urging Redwood parents to have students dress in a manner that honors our past AAP.  Doing so will be an indication of continued support for the AAP that has allowed the school to maintain an environment that supports our academic mission, which was supported by up to 80% of parents when it was adopted. 

Please contact me or Mike Pearson, Principal of Redwood Middle School if you have any questions or concerns about the new interim dress policy.

John Glaser

Superintendent
39 comment(s)

Kay wrote on Aug 14, 2007 4:53 PM:

" A uniform would be great. The sooner the better. "

GARY wrote on Aug 14, 2007 9:34 PM:

" SUP'T GLASER STILL DOESN'T "GET" IT. For that reason, I DO suggest that RMS enact a FRANK uniform policy instead of continuing to claim naively that their current dress code is not one. THat would then ALLOW CLEARLY those relativcely-few RMS parents who object to it to OPT OUT of it CLEANLY as permitted by California law. As I have said in the past, Long Beach---which "invented" school unis---and neighboring San Jose permit opt-outs of their unis without dispute. There is NO big burden there and no controversy. All the opt-outs---which are few in number---wear APPROPRIATE clothes. RMS is a SCHOOL---not a reformatory. They need to forgot about what is on the OUTSIDE of kids and start trying to \fill their BRAINS INSIDE. The attacks on the ACLU and the Plaintiffs are unfortunate---but are irrelevant as long as this issue is resolved. The new dress code is better than further litigation and appears to be legal---if enforced REASONABLY---which was NOT true of the old one despite the Sup't's protestations. "

NVUSD Parent wrote on Aug 14, 2007 9:35 PM:

" I would fully support a uniform policy both at the middle schools and at the local high schools. Keep it simple to enforce and go for it! "

to Gary wrote on Aug 14, 2007 10:45 PM:

" The superintendent does get it. The ridiculous people who filed the lawsuit thought it was more important to take books and money away from kids who need them and cater to their own childrens' wants. He is an educator, and made the choice that was right for all the kids, not just the selfish ones. "

No Redwood for Daughters. wrote on Aug 15, 2007 6:01 AM:

" Go Gary!! The parents that decided they were bored and do not care about their childrens safety and education are the parents who raise these rediculous issues. In the real world when these childrens have families to support, they will have dress codes at work. I myself will not send my children to that Middle School. I think a dress code is Great. These parents should be parents to their children. "

Kim wrote on Aug 15, 2007 7:24 AM:

" My son is entering high school next week, but was a student at RMS for three years. I fully supported their dress policy during those years. Although, I was personally tired of seeing my son in khaki pants and white and black tshirts, I supported it because I understood and believed the administrators when they said there was a decrease in gang related issues that were prevented. The focus should be on academics not what each child is wearing. If my child was continuing at RMS this year, I would ensure that he was dressed similar to last year's dress code - I hope other parents do the same. I did see over the years that kids were able to show their individualism while staying within the dress code - kids were very creative! If there are approximately 20% of parents that disagree with this dress code, perhaps they should enroll their children somewhere else...as this policy was in place long ago and it is working. "

Show me the money wrote on Aug 15, 2007 7:57 AM:

" If Mr. Glasser has evidence of "our substantial evidence of gang related issues that have been prevented by this policy", please produce it. What objective measures can you show us that will back up your claim that the former dress policy has improved the climate at RMS. Why isn't this the case at the other middle schools? Why isn't this a good policy at the High Schools? If you make such claims without backing them up, one might reasonable assume that you are "full of it". "

Amy wrote on Aug 15, 2007 9:16 AM:

" How delicious, if the end result of this trouble making family is full on Uniform policy. "

Uniforms YES! wrote on Aug 15, 2007 9:57 AM:

" I have to applaud the School District for ending this farce. My child just recently left Redwood for H.S. after three years of the "Dress Code". We had NO PROBLEMS complying and were very supportive for the very reasons many have listed in previous posts, and which Mr. Glaser lists above. I am all for a full uniform policy here. My current student at Redwood will adhere to the former policy as well. We are not "financially strapped" as some have said in regards to being able to provide for the dress code policy, but as we have been shopping around town, in Fairfield and Sacramento, there is a HUGE variety of clothing, which is priced in somes cases, at HUGE bargains, that all fit the former dress code. Mervyn's, Ross, and even Costco all have reasonably priced clothing, that fit this former policy. Those who say they simply "cannot afford it", or "there is not enough selection of different type of clothing in the colors required" just are not looking, or trying hard enough to comply. Take your kids to Silverado, then you will see a BIG difference. The friends my child had that went to Silverado were constantly worried about what colors they were wearing, were afraid to wear nice expensive shoes or misc. clothing to school, for fear of retribution or theft. I feel for those kids this year who cannot now have new books, or school supplies, and the district who may not be able to hire more staff due to "budget shortages" due to a frivalous lawsuit. School Uni's are the way to go........ "

Kim wrote on Aug 15, 2007 10:55 AM:

" This lawsuit is indicative of people that do not truly understand the implications of gang related issues. I too, did not understand why the high schools didn't have more stricter guidelines and if the middle school imposed dress restrictions, then why didn't the high schools? My son didn't like the dress code either at RMS, but in life there are rules and guidelines that we all must follow and they usually are for our protection. It is our responsibility as adults (teachers, administrators, parents, etc.) to do what is best for all of our kids. I see so often that parents are trying to be their children's "friends" instead of their parent. Finally, it's clear that many posts are from people that want to stay "anonymous." It makes me wonder who these people are that are posting... "

Dear "Show me the Money" wrote on Aug 15, 2007 11:02 AM:

" Dear Show me the Money - I have a disease that has no cure, but I am able to take medicine daily in hopes of preventing the severity of attacks and slow down the progression of the disease. I am asked all the time (by others and I ask myself) - is this medicine helping? There is no way for me to measure the affects of this medicine as it is unmeasurable as to what I'm "preventing." I believe the same thing applies to your request that Mr. Glasser provide evidence that gang related issues have been "prevented." There could be statistics of how the environment has changed at RMS vs when the dress code wasn't in place, but he cannot show you what's been "prevented." P.S. I've posted as "anonymous" for obvious reasons due to my disability because it is personal. "

Show me the money replies- wrote on Aug 15, 2007 12:27 PM:

" In Mr. Glasser's statement he says that he has "Substantial evidence" of how the gang threat has been curtailed. What is it? Further, in an article weekends NVR, the gang numbers amount to perhaps 100 active members (mostly between the ages of 15 and 19). Out of a town of 74,000 people, how does this amount to threat? I don't mind the move to uniforms if it's supported by the parents. Parents can opt out if the wish. I do mind bogus arguments and scare tactics. If you have evidence, show it, otherwise stop saying that you do, but (how convenient) you can't show it. "

Sharon wrote on Aug 15, 2007 12:56 PM:

" There is more than one middle school in this town. My question would be- If the majority of know or suspected gang members are between the ages of 15 and 19,and the ages of middle school students are between 11 and 14, and only one of the 3 middle schools had a stringent dress code, how can they say the gangs were prevented at middle school level by this dress code? Do the minority of the gang members (those under 15) come only from the other middle schools with a more relaxed dress code? If that is the data then why has not the Redwood policy been implemented at these other schools Mr Gasser? "

CINDY wrote on Aug 15, 2007 2:39 PM:

" I think a uniform attire is great. However I also think that if one middle school needs it why doesn't the rest? The gang wanna be's aren't only attending RMS there at Harvest and Silverado as well and it seems funny that they haven't been so strict with their dress code policy and seem to be doing fine. I've had two kids go through RMS now and had a problem with teachers especially one picking at my kids over clothes just because they could not because the clothes were inappropiate they were just not the right shade to them but to the principle and vice principle they were fine. I still have two more to go through middle school so I do hope they either go with the uniform or keep it just like it is going to be this year. Jeans are not bad it's the way kids like to wear them that's bad. I agree that they should fit correctly. But I dont see the point with the colors. Blue is a gang color. And if you look at all the little gang wanna be's they wear khaki colored pants most of the time.So justify that one Mr. Gasler. "

To Show me wrote on Aug 15, 2007 4:02 PM:

" To quote from the very article that you are referencing: “We have regular gang activity on a weekly basis...So far this year, there have been two gang-related stabbings; two drive-by shootings at residences; and a brawl" - Napa Police Sgt. Terry Gonsalves, who is in charge of the department’s gang unit. You go on to ask "how does this amount to threat?" Why don't you ask the friends and family of Michael Arreguin or Martin Veloz. You can't ask them personally because they are both dead. Dead as a result of gang violence. Is that not a threat enough for you? Gang members are recruited in elementary and middle schools. RMS is doing everything they can to prevent this from happening at their school. Instead of challenging the school district, you should be applauding their efforts to curb the influence of gangs on our kids. "

Show me the money replies... wrote on Aug 15, 2007 5:22 PM:

" So in nine years there have been two fatal shootings, the occasional knife fight and brawl. Let's compare ourselves to our slightly larger neighbors to the east and south - Fairfield and Vallejo. Today the Vallejo Newspaper reports the deaths of two young men to gunshot wounds and in Fairfield there was a fight that resulted in two youngsters being stabbed. Now that's a serious gang problem. We have a problem - as the officers in the article say, but the amount of amount of fear mongering over gangs in Napa is out of proportion. "

Show me the money appends... wrote on Aug 15, 2007 5:25 PM:

" My mistake, the Vallejo paper reported one murder, the other was a young man's court travails over a shooting... The point is still valid though. "

Warn the Children wrote on Aug 15, 2007 9:56 PM:

" The new dress code is better than further litigation and appears to be legal---if enforced REASONABLY---which was NOT true of the old one despite the Sup't's protestations. " Read between the lines of the letter from Glasser to RMS parents and letter from Principal Pearson, Oh beware any child who dresses to the interim policy and not to the previous AAP before litigation. Oh dear sweet child YOU will be watched with your nicely pressed "interim" clothing. Principal Pearson clearly states they will "warn" the children during the first 2 weeks of school. And you know what the accusations that these parents of the lawsuit kids are catering to their kids and such is silly. Yes there was a handful of students named in the lawsuit but there are armloads that agree that the AAP is too strict and WAY to much time is spent on discipling and picking on children for having a tag not covered with tape on their pants. Many parents and children follow the AAP because that is the rule and too be honest until your child has been dress coded fro the teeniest tineest infraction then you really don't understand the frustration at how the teachers and administration bully and intimidate these kids. "

Glasser and Pearson letter so fake wrote on Aug 15, 2007 10:02 PM:

" " If Mr. Glasser has evidence of "our substantial evidence of gang related issues that have been prevented by this policy", why did he not show it at the hearing in the spring why did the lawyers ask for more time for discovery. Substantial evidence, my hiney. "Redwood School Safety Committee and School Site Councils may review the policy and consider whether to adopt a TRUE uniform policy." Are these the same committees who sent out the bogus improperly phrased and misleading questionaires to RMS families what was it 2 years ago? I could be wrong and I will admit it I think the sourt documents might refer to the inappropriatness of the way P. Pearson created and utilized these committees. Uh Huh. Maybe "

Uniforms Yes says wrote on Aug 15, 2007 10:05 PM:

" "I feel for those kids this year who cannot now have new books, or school supplies, and the district who may not be able to hire more staff due to "budget shortages" due to a frivalous lawsuit. School Uni's are the way to go........ " The shortage of money was happening way before this lawsuit was filed. How much do you think Glasser makes. "

Ok, Show me wrote on Aug 16, 2007 6:41 AM:

" Show me wrote "So in nine years there have been two fatal shootings, the occasional knife fight and brawl". No Show, that is not the case. Slow down and read the quote: So far THIS YEAR, there have been two gang-related stabbings; two drive-by shootings at residences; and a brawl. Why don't you tell us how many people must be shot, stabbed or killed before it is not "fear mongering over gangs"? I live in Napa for many reasons, one of which is that it is NOT Vallejo or Fairfield. Your comparison to these cities does nothing for me. Just think the "serious gang problem" they have could have been prevented if their school districts took the same proactive measures that NVUSD is taking. "

Sharon wrote on Aug 16, 2007 7:31 AM:

" Why is it that this is called frivolous and stupid when it is for kids asking to wear child themed clothing or simple stripes and denim or the color pink, but when women went to bat for being forced to wear dresses to work that was a violation of their rights?? "

Angela wrote on Aug 16, 2007 9:50 AM:

" I think all students that means every school in napa county kindergarten through the twelvth grade should have mandatory uniforms. Then the battle is over if you feel so inclined to give your child an education great it will be with a uniform and if you disagree then you have the right to to find alternative education for your child and he/she can wear what they want. "

Uniform Supporter wrote on Aug 16, 2007 11:08 AM:

" It is absurd to me that all students from kindergarten to 12th grade don't wear uniforms in the public school. Uniforms are common practice in several other countries. An imaginative and thriving educational system recongnizes that he true realm of free expression for children is in their abilities and accomplishments, not whether or not they adorn themselves with corporate marketing logos, banal political statements or pert religious phrases. Those things all come from the minds of other people anyway -- who do the yahoos who brought this lawsuit think they're kidding? They think that wearing Tigger represents an original thought worth sharing? Free speech guarantees your right to say anything you want. It in no way guarantees that anyone has to listen to you. What if your Tigger logo infringes upon my right not to be marketed to at school? I also find it pretty absurd that the Superintendent of Schools doesn't know the appropriate use of an apostrophe. See "plaintiff's," and "students'." Also T-shirt should always be capitalized. Adopt a uniform for all the students and send the teachers and administrators to a class on proper English grammar and usage so we can get on with educating our youth. "

Sharon wrote on Aug 16, 2007 11:32 AM:

" To all who think uniforms are so great- have you checked the price for a uniform including shoes, socks, sweaters, jackets or coats, and the standard uniform book bag? Lets take more money away from education! Do you know how many people will have to ask for a clothing grant? And were do you think that money will come from? Not Mr. Glaser's pocket or any other administrator. It will come from textbook funds, teacher funds or music programs...All areas that hurt students more than if we stay true to PUBLIC schools and have a rational dress code. One issued not out of fear, but out of good values based and good taste. This interim dress code is a good place to start...As far as the comments of "parents should take their children to another school if they do not like it", excuse me, why should we, who live in that PUBLIC school district, that was given to us by the same acts that gave us FREEDOM of EXPRESSION, go to another school just for wanting for our children to have an appropriate and reasonable freedom of dress? There are schools within Napa that parents who like restrictive environments including uniforms can send their children to. Some thoughts-you see many people in suits and uniforms become a part of a gang as you do those who are not in uniforms and suits.. Also another thought--What do you call dressing all alike? Is that not a uniform of sorts? Well guess what Gang members all wear the same brands, the same styles and the same colors so should that not be called a gang uniform? So all of this cry for an uniform at Redwood I can't agree with. I can't see any clear evidence that shows how a child dresses will stop them from joining a gang. I can see that after they have joined the gang or are wanting to join the gang that they would dress like that, but the dress code would not stop it. "

napagirl wrote on Aug 16, 2007 12:41 PM:

" I definetely agree with Sharon. How much difference could it make if ONE school out of all of Napa enforces this strict dress code? And to Angela, most private schools require uniforms, so your idea of people going to private schools to wear whatever they want is completely out of whack. "

a teacher wrote on Aug 16, 2007 1:42 PM:

" I think that you'll find very little support for uniforms in the USA. My evidence: Very few schools (3% according to the National Center for Education Statistics) require uniforms. The argument that most of the world requires school uniforms probably would reinforce the notion that we shouldn't do it. "

Uniform Supporter wrote on Aug 16, 2007 3:40 PM:

" Sharon writes: To all who think uniforms are so great- have you checked the price for a uniform including shoes, socks, sweaters, jackets or coats, and the standard uniform book bag? -- I'm sorry, Sharon. Do you not buy clothes for your children to go to school in? I wore uniforms all through school and my mother bought me two at a time from the school secondhand shop. (I never got a brand new one). My mom has always said that uniforms saved her money and worry. We didn't have a lot of money but because of the uniform no one would have ever known. My afterschool clothes were inexpensive T-shirts, jeans and sneakers. Bought secondhand, by the way. In my own personal experience uniforms have been a money saver. "

to warn the children wrote on Aug 16, 2007 8:25 PM:

" I am sorry, but you can't follow the dress code? Come on! This is not that hard. And if you feel like teachers and the administration bully your kid, how can you (in good conscience) send your child there? If I couldn't figure out the dress code, I'd send my kid in the most nondescript clothing possible so they wouldn't get coded. But I guess it's always going to be the teachers' fault. Way to blame others for your mistakes. "

Sharon wrote on Aug 17, 2007 6:20 AM:

" to Uniform Supporter- I do buy clothes for my children to go to school in, but I do not go to the main stream expensive places. So for me the cost of school clothes under this interim policy is definately less expensive than a uniform. I do not buy separate wardrobes for my children. I do not allow them to wear clothing at any time that would be inappropriate dress for school or in public. I also chose to put my children in public schools, your mother chose to reduce her amount of money for clothing by choosing a private school. As far as uniforms being worn in other countries, very few of those countries have their freedoms protected by laws and bills of rights, that is why we are The United States of America. We are a democracy for the people by the people. And this is why we get to have the freedom to discourse our opinions in this paper. If we put aside the argument of what to wear there is another issue here. The right of equal treatment. Why did Redwood have the strictest dress code of all the PUBLIC schools in Napa. The district says it was to prevent gang activity there. So is the district saying that the gang activity was going to come from Redwood only? I believe that the district failed in their responsibility to ensure equal treatment of the students in this district. By their inaction to enforce a district wide policy they have allowed Redwood students the distinction of having to have a stricter code which creates the sense that this school has the highest potential to join a gang. IF the district allows Redwood to go to uniforms then it should be required district wide and not just at one school. The district has a responsibility to give each child the same rules. If these rules were the same from kindergarten through high school we would not have this issue. People will fight time and time again for equality. "

Gary wrote on Aug 17, 2007 9:13 PM:

" Those posters who "support" my idea for a frank uniform don't get it at all, it appears. Calif statutory law allows unconditional parent opt-out of ALL uniform programs---period. This suit was made necessary by the "games" played by NVUSD in pretending their dress code was not a uniform. It was---the new one is NOT-- and it is FINE that the conservative parents here send their kids in the more restrictive rules of the "old (uniform) code." But there should be nothing INTERIM here; the new code is fine---but if the board wants to stop pretending and enact a frank uni---ALSO fine---BECAUSE then the Scotts et. al can opt-out of it without the absurd fight and litigation required of them by the RMS and NVUSD administration. Of course the REAL point is that neither banning colors like red & blue NOR banning t-shirts NOR banning logos NOR banning properly-fitted jeans contributed ONE WHIT to school safety, discipline or these other laudable goals that are supported by the NVUSD admin and most of the residents of Napa Valley. NOT ONE WHIT; but banning regalia worn SOLELY or PRIMARILY by gang members (like we do in AZ) might indeed have such an effect. So if you REALLY have a gang problem in Napa Valley, act accordingly---but do NOT punish good kids wearing fully-appropriate street clothes JUST because SOME gang members ALSO wear such clothes. "

manny wrote on Aug 17, 2007 10:03 PM:

" How about this for a uniform idea--red tops and blue bottoms in all schools? Would this neutralize the effect of the gang dress code? Seriously, I think the ACLU should go after the gangs for undermining our freedom to wear whatever we choose. That really would be a useful endeavor. "

Vintage Grad wrote on Aug 19, 2007 10:27 AM:

" From the tone of Mr. Glaser's statement, it appears that neither he nor the NVUSD has learned their lesson. Even if up to 80% of parents supported the AAP when it was adopted, as Mr. Glaser claims, that does not mean that: 1) the same level of support continued after the AAP's implementation, or 2) that the Constitutionally-protected rights of the students can be compromised by a misguided majority. The implementation of AAP exhibited a lack of common sense and a disregard for parents' discretion to raise their kids without inappropriate interference from the state, not to mention underestimation of students' awareness of their rights (and willingness to fight in the courts to assert those rights). Gang attire and activity should not interfere with the educational process. And public schools should focus more on the quality of their instruction. The attitude of the NVUSD administration reminds me of the need for fair competition between the public schools and private alternatives. Vouchers, which would allow taxpayers to take their tax dollars to the school of their choice -- public or private -- would elicit a higher quality educational experience across the board and make the public schools more accountable to the consumers of their service. "

slammin221s wrote on Aug 20, 2007 10:08 AM:

" glasser should be fired. As a student of redwood middle school from 96 to 98 i had to abide by the early version of the dress code in question. And NO on the uniform idea, if you want your kids to wear uniforms shell out the money and send em to a church school, im sure most of you rich napans who dont want your kids picked on could afford it if you traded in the suburban for a minivan "

parent of 4 wrote on Aug 20, 2007 10:05 PM:

" When a pilot flies for an airline he wears a uniform, a police officer wears a uniform, a doctor wears a uniform, a fireman wears a uniform, a pro athlete wears a uniform, a waitress, the garbage man, etc.... this is a fact of life. I think all schools, all grades should wear uniforms while in the classroom. When you are off work or out of school, you have the freedom to express yourself. When you graduate you get to decide where you go from there and what uniform you will wear by what career path you choose. It is a privilage to get an education and it should be respected. Uniforms put all on the same level, and the main focus is then on the education, not where you live or how much money your parents have or don't have. "

Gary wrote on Aug 20, 2007 11:41 PM:

" I am shocked at the poster who implied that most all adults will be wearing uniforms all day. Maybe SOME---mainly police and LOW-skilled jobs like service & retail---but NOT the best and the brightest. FYI, even the Engineers at Apple, Intel, etc have little or no dress code---much less a uniform. In any event, you hardly need "training" to wear a uni; even if ALL adults DID wear unis, that has nothing to do with kids. Diverse, casual clothing has been an American---and especially a California-- tradition for hundreds of years. NOTHING---not 9-11, Columbine, Iraq, Brittany or anything else has now made it necessary to stamp out APPROPRIATE DIVERSITY in our PUBLIC schools; and that is ALL that the Plaintiffs in this case ever wanted. Indeed Glaser SHOULD be fired---for ONE main reason---his flatly-false statement that the Scotts, et al RUSHED TO SUE; they did everything but BEG the school to change to a REASONABLE dress code like the other NVUSD schools had and have. "

justine wrote on Aug 21, 2007 7:42 AM:

" After reading the STAR test results of Redwood Middle School it's apparent that the priorities of the parents and students is off track. Focus less on the uniform and start studying, crack the books open. You'll have the rest of your adult life to wear pooh socks. At the rate the scores are off to just put them all in clown suits. "

Sharon wrote on Aug 21, 2007 8:29 AM:

" As a parent who supports all individuals' rights to freedom of choice regardless of AGE, race, religion, or political views, go on ahead and implement a uniform. Then we will see how many parents OPT OUT. Then Glaser and the district will be faced with the true numbers. Children who went to Redwood yesterday wearing clothing under the "interim dress code" were harrassed and told by some school staff that they would rather the students honor the previous dress code that is currently being disputed. That is not right. Do not harrass the children that are following the current dress guidelines. Do not make those children who CHOOSE, with their parents' ok and the districts rules, to wear these clothes, feel that they will be targets if they do not comply with these bully tactic "suggestions" to follow another code that is currently NOT the approved district code. "

Workers CHOOSE to wear uniforms! wrote on Aug 22, 2007 6:25 PM:

" Because nobody is forced to work a particular job in the US, workers choose to wear uniforms. If they don't want to wear a uniform, they can get another job. However, students are required by law to attend school. Attending school is not optional; therefore, their constitutional rights must be carefully protected. Parents may "opt out" of uniform policies because of the constitutional issue involved. One oughtn't to confuse the rights/responsibilities of an EMPLOYEE with a STUDENT. "

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