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Grim worldview from the deck of the Titanic
Sunday, July 01, 2007
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I have written before that America is like the Titanic making her way through an ocean of icebergs. The captain and his staff keep reassuring the passengers everything is OK.

Standing on the deck, we see the bergs getting bigger and closer. Looking up at the captain's quarterdeck, I wonder if they know what the hell they are doing? Can they be so stupid to not see the impending crises in front of us? Are they focused only on those directly in our path hoping to navigate our way through, fingers crossed?
Or do they know there is no way out and we are doomed?

This allegory is more true than fictional. America faces a convergence of crises of such magnitude that no amount of financial or scientific commitment may be enough to keep them from ending industrial civilization. The future would be less problematic if our leaders had taken on the crises before they became so large and interconnected.
Examples:

The biggest crisis is overpopulation. Every problem, be it environmental, economic, social or political, is directly or indirectly connected to the 6.8-billion-pound gorilla in the room. We have known this for years but it is one of the issues no one, conservative or liberal, will touch. Instead, the official policy is one of ignorance allowing the human species to breed itself toward a massive die-off.
Last month the U.N. released official projections expecting the world population to reach 9.2 billion by 2050, an increase of 2.5 billion from today. It will never happen.

Throughout history, whenever a new energy source was exploited, human population skyrocketed. But never has it increased as quickly as it has since the oil age arrived in 1859 and the world population was a little more than 1 billion. The exponential growth in population going hand-in-hand with the use of hydrocarbons is not just a coincidence.

In just a little more than 130 years, humans have run through more than half the world's reserves of oil and natural gas. Since population growth is contingent on a readily available supply of cheap oil, collapse is inevitable. The slippery slide down the slope of Peak Oil will be quicker than the trip up.

Without cheap oil and natural gas, the Green Revolution and the ability to feed all us billions will be history. Few industries will be affected as great as agriculture. Two that will be are those medical and pharmaceutical.

Thus, a future die-off of biblical proportions will be primarily due to starvation and disease. Throw in mass migrations and social strife and, boy, do we have problems.

Knowing this, you would think that intelligent, reasonable people would advocate strict population control and implement a cohesive energy policy. You would think they would have forethought to think of our children and children's children. They don't.

Another ignored crisis that lies dead ahead is the federal debt. It has reached the point where if nations stop lending us money -- currently $2.5 billion daily -- Uncle Sam may go broke. At the very best, the result of this will make the Great Depression look like a picnic in the park.

Virtually every politician knows this, yet nothing gets done. Instead of taking the problem on, they make matters worse by cutting taxes and increasing spending.

The Bush administration has taken action, though, on the fiscal crisis. Economists are painfully aware that the dollar losing its value as the world's reserve currency is another, quicker road to economic Armageddon than the exploding debt. So when a nation decides to stop accepting the dollar, a la Iraq, they get a thumpin' from our military.

Next stop, Iran Š

Finally, there is global warming. Every report and study released seems to be more dire than the one preceding it. Most now say we have little time before passing the point of no return; some, including two from the Pentagon and NASA, say we most probably are beyond the tipping point and a runaway greenhouse effect is on its way.

Like the allegory, I look to our leaders and wonder if they are clueless. But the fact of the matter is they know everything we know and much more.

I believe that most politicians know the awful truth confronting us but refuse to do anything about it as it will cost them their jobs. They hope to safely navigate through the ice field, fingers crossed. If this is the case, our leaders have failed us: It is their responsibility to lead us down certain paths, regardless the pain, if circumstances demand it.

Then there is the chance that our leaders know we have passed the breaking point and we're doomed. If so, we have to ask the ultimate question: What good will it do to inform the public?

This is open for debate.

(Lydecker lives in Napa.)
65 comment(s)

PHYLIE wrote on Jul 1, 2007 5:48 AM:

" Thus endeth the reading of the lesson? "

Ruff Limblog wrote on Jul 1, 2007 7:20 AM:

" The 'old way' of doing things is on its way out. In that sense the Titanic has already been filling with water since 2000. However where the analogy varies is that the ship's owners (and I mean the inhuman corporations, not human beings) have hired people to tell the passengers that things are OK, there is no seawater flooding in belowdecks... and a small crowd of scaredy-cats seeking comfort repeat the lies and help keep people from the lifeboats. "There's NO global climate crisis"... "The US has the BEST medical care"... "The US problems stem from GREEDY WORKERS"... "The US problems stem from ILLEGAL PEOPLE"... You can hear the scaredy-cats repeating their favorite mantras against reality every day. I, for one, hope that if a 'die-off' is in our future, that the remaining humans are more like cooperative loving bonobos than war-like screaming chimps. Good writing, a great read! ~Ruff "

Kevin wrote on Jul 1, 2007 10:00 AM:

" Jim, you were doing fine until you brought up the man-made global warming issue. More and more scientists continue to come forward to publicly refute his so called "consensus" and to challenge Algore on his flawed data. Also, from mid-20th century, the population growth has been pretty much linear, not exponential. My personal favorite "end of world" scenario is much less dramatic than yours and comes right out of today's news: some obscure research lab "manufactures" a brand new organism (to clean ovens or whatever) that gets "loose" and decimates the population... "

GoMommyGo wrote on Jul 1, 2007 12:13 PM:

" I don't think businesses should be entitle to equal 1th amendment protection under the law. It's one of the tools they've used to buy lobbyists, tv ads, etc. to tip the balance of power in their favor. Rights are for humans, because humans pursue life, liberty and happiness. We can go to jail if we break the law. Businesses pursue profits. They can't go to jail b/c they're not human. "

hadashi wrote on Jul 1, 2007 12:44 PM:

" You have hit it in a nutshell. Good luck America (from across the Pacific). "

Steve MC wrote on Jul 1, 2007 1:03 PM:

" Here is further proof that Saint Gore is full of hot air: “Alarmist global warming claims melt under scientific scrutiny” June 30, 2007 BY JAMES M. TAYLOR In his new book, The Assault on Reason, Al Gore pleads, "We must stop tolerating the rejection and distortion of science. We must insist on an end to the cynical use of pseudo-studies known to be false for the purpose of intentionally clouding the public's ability to discern the truth." Gore repeatedly asks that science and reason displace cynical political posturing as the central focus of public discourse. If Gore really means what he writes, he has an opportunity to make a difference by leading by example on the issue of global warming. A cooperative and productive discussion of global warming must be open and honest regarding the science. Global warming threats ought to be studied and mitigated, and they should not be deliberately exaggerated as a means of building support for a desired political position. Many of the assertions Gore makes in his movie, ''An Inconvenient Truth,'' have been refuted by science, both before and after he made them. Gore can show sincerity in his plea for scientific honesty by publicly acknowledging where science has rebutted his claims. For example, Gore claims that Himalayan glaciers are shrinking and global warming is to blame. Yet the September 2006 issue of the American Meteorological Society's Journal of Climate reported, "Glaciers are growing in the Himalayan Mountains, confounding global warming alarmists who recently claimed the glaciers were shrinking and that global warming was to blame." Gore claims the snowcap atop Africa's Mt. Kilimanjaro is shrinking and that global warming is to blame. Yet according to the November 23, 2003, issue of Nature magazine, "Although it's tempting to blame the ice loss on global warming, researchers think that deforestation of the mountain's foothills is the more likely culprit. Without the forests' humidity, previously moisture-laden winds blew dry. No longer replenished with water, the ice is evaporating in the strong equatorial sunshine." Gore claims global warming is causing more tornadoes. Yet the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate "

Napa Coop wrote on Jul 1, 2007 1:51 PM:

" Dead wrong! Chicken Little, the sky is not falling, at least in America. U.N. population projections forecast that essentially ALL of the growth will occur in underdeveloped countries, where oil products and energy are scarce. The people giving birth do not have cars or air conditioning. If anything, the quality of life has improved because of the development of oil products. The die-off has been occurring for generations in those very same countries, it is called AIDS and malaria today. As those diseases are prevented, the birth rate will decrease as it has in every other developed country. The most advanced countries in the world are not replacing themselves and in many cases are declining. "

John B. wrote on Jul 1, 2007 3:14 PM:

" We're doomed...doomed!!!!! The alarmists who believe that the world is overpopulated should be the first ones to show us how much they believe that. They can do so by leaving planet earth and making room for someone else. "

Engineer-Poet wrote on Jul 1, 2007 3:28 PM:

" We most certainly CAN do something about these problems.  Even a runaway greenhouse effect can be braked by adding sulfate clouds to the stratosphere (if Pinatubo can do it naturally, we can do it artificially).  But we need to get very serious about dealing with the root causes, and right away. "

Justin wrote on Jul 1, 2007 3:47 PM:

" Isaac Newton, an alleged priori of Sion, predicted that the end of the world would occur in the year 2060. Given the impending fossil fuel dillemma unfolding, I say he might just be right. "

Dave Graf wrote on Jul 1, 2007 6:24 PM:

" Please note that one politician knows the future. Bill Clinton liquidated his stocks. The reason he and Hillary gave did not hold water. The media was mute. "

Here's the deal wrote on Jul 1, 2007 6:35 PM:

" It could from so many directions that chances of a global catasrophy are quite high.....Life will never become better...although it could- Example: instead of giving tax breaks to familys give tax breaks to people who don't have kids, or just have 1. For people who say there's is no impending doom of some sort need to get up to speed- There's to many things happening at once to think we could just chugging along with the growth/oil based econnomies! Never mind global warming! Wake up America! It's all true..... "

tahoevalleylines.org wrote on Jul 1, 2007 6:56 PM:

" The rusty NWP tracks crisscrossing the North Bay are part of the Oil Interregnum solution set, hiding in plain sight. Standard, rehabbed generic freight railways are able to maintain Societal & Commercial Cohesion when gas rationing and other Peaking Oil effects set in. Readers this locale have in common the rail option with other CA places. Monterey, Calaveras, Placerville, Isleton, Esparto/Capay Valley. Taken together, there is a cross section of resources that are connectable by rail, when trucking runs low on diesel fuel. The 3-4 time efficiency factor of rail is going to favor rail recieving fuel supply over the long-haul trucking firms. That does not include other factors like the railbed maintenance for low speed operation is much simpler than road maintenance for 18 wheelers. The big thing as far as fuel for trains is, they can run on just about any known fuel. Renewable generated electricity runs trains; biofuels, etc. But there is another important thing, and that is the stand-alone operating ethic of railways. The term "Second Dimension Surface Transport Logistics Platform" says it nicely. Interested readers can see Association For The Study Of Peak Oil & Gas website, look at Newsletter 42, article 374. Share with others concerned with preparation for the Oil Interregnum. The next step is networking with other communities in CA with dormant rail corridor, as mentioned above. This sort of connecting will get the attention of bureaucracies like CalTrans, who will eventually get the idea they don't want to be to far behind a wave, even if it's rails not road! Historic railway interests have people willing to help with some muscle, money even, to begin process of rehab so the local leadership, who may be short on imagination, will see some sign of sweat equity. Important concept here is to provide a methodology for maintaining a sense of hope that we are in fact taking tangible steps to maintain mobility even thru a disaster or gas rationing period. Please share this with college agers who may be interested. "

chris wrote on Jul 1, 2007 7:28 PM:

" Kevin. According to the Journal "Science", 75% of the literature about global warming supports the statement that global warming is real and manmade. Now if 3 out of 4 doctors told me that I had an Illness, I'd be a fool not to go with the consensus. "

Andrew wrote on Jul 1, 2007 7:54 PM:

" I really don't think the politicians are understanding the true state we are in. You need to undertand how intertwined these issues are along with our total dependance on oil for nearly everything we do and everything we consume. No politician I have spoken to understands the science, and now, it is too late. "

thoth wrote on Jul 1, 2007 8:16 PM:

" "Without cheap oil and natural gas, the Green Revolution and the ability to feed all us billions will be history. Few industries will be affected as great as agriculture. Two that will be are those medical and pharmaceutical." You are supposedly a journalist. I suggest you take remedial English. "

Ruff Limblog wrote on Jul 1, 2007 8:36 PM:

" Yep, we still have our very own denialators right here in Napa. "More and more" corportate lackeys are 'coming forward' to collect some oil company cash to 'refute' the consensus. Sure... sure... sure they are REAL scientists, honest!!! What kind of scientist would sell themselves out for a $10,000 dollar bounty from an oil country funded group? And should we believe these hacks? Even if global climate change were completely imaginary, the corporatists have a hard time making the case for not cutting back on the huge expenditures the USA makes on protecting Saudi Arabian terrorist funders. Lets not forget the 'inconvenient truth' that 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9-11 were Saudis. But, come on now... the Saudis are our 'friends' and the folks who want to cut back on funding the Saudis are naive simple-minded traitors don'cha know? ~Ruff "

whatever wrote on Jul 1, 2007 10:27 PM:

" I find it highly amusing that global warming deniers always suggest scientists are supposedly coming out against it and never provide sources or citations. Total shills for the corporations. They will kill off the human race for the sake of short term profit. "

Silvia wrote on Jul 2, 2007 2:29 AM:

" Overpopulation? I won't fall for that one. It's all about control; easier for the elite to control 1.5 billion than 7 billion, right? Let's do the math. How many square yards are there in a square mile? You have 1,760 on a side, so multiply 1,760 by 1,760, the same way you would get nine square feet in a square yard by multiplying three by three. Use a calculator if you must. The answer is 3,097,600 square yards in a square mile. Then multiply by four, since we are putting four people in each square yard. You get 12,390,400 people per square mile. Chances are your town is a least one square mile in area. Did you know you could squeeze over 12 million people into it? Now divide 12,390,400 into 6.4 billion to see how many square miles it would take to hold everybody. The answer is 532.67 square miles, or 533 rounded off. That's about a 23-mile square. Houston's area is 596 square miles, so you'd have an extra 60 square miles, room for another three quarters of a billion or so. If you spread out, giving each person his own square yard and a folding chair, you could just about seat everyone in Delaware. If you gave everyone ten square yards (a 30-foot square, or 900 square feet -- a small apartment), you could fit all 6.8 billion people into Texas. "

Shadow Dancer wrote on Jul 2, 2007 3:47 AM:

" Sat upon the Mesa where the Hopi live. I watched the sunrises & sunsets. I was staying with a Hopi family. Not all that much any person of Native Heritage can do, but shrug their shoulders when you talk about the destruction of the Earth. Not much they can do, but shrug their shoulders concerning the problems of your Nation. After all...It's your Nation, your world. Everything is done your way. But it doesn't seem to be working out..long term...That is the way things are sometimes... I am just passing through your world. If your world is this bad now...then all it will do is get worse...& only around 112 years after rounding up the last of the Tribes... And this is how things are now.. Time flys while your having fun. "

JD wrote on Jul 2, 2007 3:49 AM:

" Over population? So what! Nature will make the natural corrections. Politicians are not the blame; its human kind in general. We are selfish, greedy, and full of pride. There you have it. The greenhouse problem is due to the incredible "Solar Flares" now occuring on our closest star,namely the Sun. Yes this is the eleven year cycle, but the Earth's galaxy, Sagisttaris is moving through the galaxy Milkyway and the astrological dynamics is creating a lot of stress on our Solar System. Astronomers are observing that all of the planets are heating up. Pluto too? Yes, Pluto too! You are right about one thing the USS Earth on a collision course, but not with an iceberg. It's more like a collision with Hell....So don't get so worked up about the over population thingy. People and life in general will be a rare commodity in the not so distance future. Ooooh it's going to hurt. May I strongly suggest that you do what I am doing; grab a life boat and lower your Ark into the Sea of Hope for you are correct the USS Earth is going down....ouch! "

beammeup wrote on Jul 2, 2007 3:52 AM:

" Like it or not, the number one problem IS indeed, overpopulation. All problems we are experiencing come from that fact alone. We are crazy not to address this issue. But don't look to politicians to solve this - we must start first with individual responsibility to decide our own family size. We are beginning to see the consequences. When the oil runs out, the results will be catastrophic. When the next Depression occurs, woe to all of us. Farmers have the best chance of survival. It's happened before but most people don't want to hear it because life is still good to most first-world countries. The human race will survive, of course but I'll bet there'll be less than 1 billion people left. It's a small planet after all. "

Andy D. wrote on Jul 2, 2007 4:29 AM:

" Jim Lydecker took info from Dale Evans Pheiffer's essay "Eating Fossil Fuel" which is on the net to weave his own take on the global disaster facing all of us. I predict that the population of the planet will collapse to a sustainable population of 2 billion or so starting by 2025. The US and many other grain growing countries are already facing massive droughts that will sharply cut grain production this year. The cupboard is almost empty. Demand for grains is exceeding supply as I write. Shortages of grain will become worse from year to year as peak oil really takes hold. The green revolution requires 10 calories of petroleum energy to produce 1 calorie of food energy at the table. This is unsustainable. Think victory gardens in your backyards. "

TnAndy wrote on Jul 2, 2007 6:00 AM:

" For the folks that ridicule the message: When gasoline is 20FRNs/gallon in a few years, if you can find any, and the economy is in shambles, you might remember back when you were warned. If you have any sense, you will use the remaining time and cheap energy of today to come up with a sustainable, simpler lifestyle. "

Jeffrey learned wrote on Jul 2, 2007 6:28 AM:

" "Intentional Sustainable Communities;" the ONLY lifeboat (solution) to ride out the storm and make it to the "otherside." "

Robert wrote on Jul 2, 2007 7:15 AM:

" I wouldn't call the people in Washington, "My leaders." They're just people in Washington. Sure, they wield strong powers, unconscionably. But their effect on individual people, really, is quite small, usually. There are exceptions, but seldom. Also, they know very well what is going on. They're very well informed about the icebergs, the condition of the sea, the hole in the hull. They're just not capable of doing anything about it. As you get older, you will begin to understand this. Another thing you will start to understand is that they caused it. "

Tom wrote on Jul 2, 2007 7:24 AM:

" Congratulations on a very good article. I agree with everything you said and you're one of the few people I’ve read who's recognized that overpopulation is one of the root causes for much of the world's present, and soon to be future problems. Unfortunately for political, cultural or religious reasons nothing will be done about this until it’s too late (if it isn’t already) and I also see many tens or hundreds of millions of people needlessly die because of all the reasons you gave plus possibly several more. The only issue I had with you’re article was that you seemed to expect our political leaders to solve all of these problems. My comment to you was going to be that it’s not up to them, it’s up to us, all of us, to take the intuitive and not only demand that our leaders address these urgent problems but that we also have to make changes to our lives as individuals. I was going to tell you this until I saw the reader comments and I sadly realized that most people just done see what’s coming or are to stupid or lazy or just don’t care. So the bottom line is that humanity will go blindly on the way it is until some major event wakes us up, but by then it will most likely be too late, and history has shown that nature is not kind to a species as ignorant as ours. "

A. Magnus wrote on Jul 2, 2007 7:49 AM:

" Nobody seems to mention the inconvenient fact that the 'global warming' crowd in Greenpeace and the WWF are all funded by the oil industry to begin with. Why? Because the 'green' movement's job is to provide a cover story for why big oil can't build new refineries, so they can then artificially constrict the supply of gasoline to increase profits. The warming of the climate has a direct correlation with an increase of the sun's heat output over the past century. Scientists recently stated that Mars and the outer planets are also warming, which makes no sense unless you believe there are little green men using oil products there. In other words, don't be so quick to fall for the peak oil scam. Malthus was wrong 250 yeatrs ago, and he's still wrong today. "

Mustacheo wrote on Jul 2, 2007 8:03 AM:

" A Man by the Name of Stan Meyer had created a Hydrogen Generator that produced gas as you drove no need for fuel cell-They removed him. Free energy would have solved allot of the Earths problems but the powers that be want to keep us as slaves. Look him up on Google or you-Tube and see his invention that he made and his story. "

Gale Whitaker wrote on Jul 2, 2007 8:11 AM:

" Jim I agree with what you posted. Human beings are very interesting. It seems like such a long shot that evolution could produce a species that is as intelligent as humans. I think that during our evolutionary period the selection process was such that some pathological genes were included in our genome. By far the most terrible gene is the one that causes humans to be so arrogant as to believe that they were created by a god. Maybe some where in the cosmos their is a race of beings that are more intelligent than us but they are missing the religeous gene. I hope so because the religeous gene has doomed our little experiment to failure. Gale "

J.Passenger wrote on Jul 2, 2007 8:41 AM:

" As the article hinted, those running the show (government, public and secret) have known for years that the game is up. It is a known 'secret' that most governments have been madly building underground "cities" since the 40's hording food, fuel and everything needed for a long stay. Hmmmmm. Do you think those who have a ticket to hide in these deep shelters care one bit for those of us who must remain on the surface? Do some research and you will find hundreds of underground "bases" the size of small cities. Russia has a huge facillity that even made the mainstream news back in the late 80's. Look up the news about the contract given to Halliburton for over 300 million to construct prison camps here in America and the law now in place to take YOU there. The ship IS going down and the rats have already made an escape plan leaving us to sink. "

michael wrote on Jul 2, 2007 8:48 AM:

" hi jim, your symbolism of us being on the deck of the titanic is right on. I applaud you. I've been checking out the global warming connection with overpopulation, our usage of planet resources and climate change. i'm an amateur (sic) astronomer and have found something wierd happening with the sun and our entire solar system. everywhere nasa looks all of our planets are heating up and something strange is happening with pluto and neptunes orbit. our sun is at solar minimum which means less sunspots but, the solar radiation it puts out increaces. that solar radiation gets through and heats up the planet. also, don't know if this is the correct forum for this but here goes. check out a guy named albert pike, genuis, spoke several languages and is a mason god. this guy envisioned three world wars to bring about their mason christ. his name is maitreya and he's appearing to people out of thin air and disappearing the same way. hell, don't believe me. you don't even know me. look it up. share international, benjamin creme, art bell. now what astounds me is they want to depopulate the planet. efforts are now under way to re-wild thousands of acres of areas in the united states. is the united states of america speading diseases through chemtrails? check out morgellons disease, and what they've found in the water in texas and florida. all of the information i've just mentioned is absolutely true. don't believe me please, look for yourself. this may not get posted but, somebody is going to read it. michael "

Allen D. Hoffmann wrote on Jul 2, 2007 8:52 AM:

" It amazes me that this article focuses on overpopulation. The Russian population is shrinking. Europes would be without immigration sames true here. Energy is a glass half full or half empty depending on whether you think oil can be replaced and the viability of alternatives. The real issue is the world economy. Thanks to the greed of a handful of international bankers the economy has become a house of cards, when it implodes, expect the peasants to revolt. We are facing a grim future but not from envirometnal disaster but consumit greed. "

brisa wrote on Jul 2, 2007 9:17 AM:

" Overpopulation is being addressed, all be it below the radar. The AIDS epidemic in Sub-Sahara Africa is dessimating the population there. The current policy of funding abstinance only programs vs. condom use is accelerating the trend. Whether HIV is a natural virus or one that was created at Los Alamos is open to debate, but Kissinger policy papers from the 1970's proposed the creation of such a virus. The widespread use of depeleted uranium munitions in Bosnia, Serbia, Kuwait, Iraq and, now, Lebanon will have an effect on fertility and off spring viability in affected populations for generations. The radioactive ceramic residue from their use has a half-life of 2.5 billion years and is now blowing around within the dust of the Middle East, waiting to be inhaled. "

bonanzaman wrote on Jul 2, 2007 9:25 AM:

" Population control began long ago in 1694 when the Rothschilds took over the Bank of England. Wars are not just about the banks profits. They are also about population control. Man made diseases, chemicals in our food, food preparation, flouride, aspartame, gm crops, du, and lots more are all about reducing the population to a size allowing complete control and servitude to the Rothschild/Vatican new "plantation earth". But You aren't allowed to die before spending all of your wealth on drugs, medical care, and hospital time. Then you can go. "

Ted wrote on Jul 2, 2007 9:43 AM:

" I agree with the point on "control." The author doesn't mention that birthrates actually fall as populations develop, become educated, etc. Actually helping the world's poor in that way isn't on the agenda of imperialistic powers. H Kissinger basically said so in NSC Memo 200 in 1974 which called for population control because large populations in poor nations threaten U.S. interests. President Ford officially adopted that policy and a few years later, along came AIDS. Educating people so they realize their national assets are being stolen by foreigners isn't going to help the imperial cause. The other point that the NWO, "population bomb" crowd never mention is that a 3rd world country doesn't have to follow the same development curve that the developed nations did. They could develop around mass transit, desalinazation plants, sustainable energy practices. That development would be adopted in their lifestyles, because they are not used to western luxuries and their current lives are miserable. Yes, the world is overpopulated, but there are solutions that don't require letting people starve or die of AIDS. The problem is the world's power elite see the humane solutions as being in conflict with their goals and profits. "

Tim from Kalamazoo wrote on Jul 2, 2007 11:18 AM:

" We can feed a lot more people on a totally vegetarian diet than we can with our current meat-and-dairy based agricultural system. See "Diet for a Small Planet," by Francis Moore Lappe. "

Roxan wrote on Jul 2, 2007 12:43 PM:

" With, overpopulation, I think it is a problem but I don't understand why the general U.S. population was persuaded back in the late 60s/early 70s to (0 Population growth), watched the SOYLENT GREEN MOVIE & then we get flooded with both legal & illegal immigration. The illegals then have high birth rates thanks to Free Births & Automatic citizenship. Now, the AZTLANDERS are making funs of us for "Not Making Babies and we're dying" And who's questioning the people in religions or who's on fertility drugs with their birth rates? "

GLinn wrote on Jul 2, 2007 12:56 PM:

" As far as peak oil, I wonder if that is why big oil hasn't built any new refineries in the last few decades? Maybe they know that they, (the refineries) won't be necessary because there will be less, and less oil to refine. Just like any other resource, the "easy pickins" are used up first. True there may be a lot of oil/coal/gas out there, but if it costs more energy to extract it than what is gained, what's the use? "

Rush wrote on Jul 2, 2007 12:58 PM:

" Thanks you Ruff! You have helped to make the case for energy independence from the Saudi's. Open Anwar, drill off the coasts of the US, accelerate conservation and realistic alternative energy programs, keep the government out of the private sector and let the free enterprise system work. "

Joe Nash wrote on Jul 2, 2007 1:34 PM:

" I don't understand the position of the people who say that since global warming is not a man made phenomena, nothing should be done. Some estimates seem to be that the ocean level will rise about 60 ft. causing the shoreline to go 2000 ft. inland. Even this relatively modest estimate of a rise in sea level floods out island nations and will require trillions of dollars in building an infrastructure of dikes and pumping stations to keep our seasports from looking like Venice Italy. Speaking of Venice Italy, It, the Netherlands and the Missisipi delta may all join Atlantis as places bhat were once above water but aren't anymore. "

Napa Coop wrote on Jul 2, 2007 2:12 PM:

" I am amazed at the misery and wild conspiracy theories that exist right here in Paradise. Jim and bloggers, if you are expecting the US government to come in and take care of you, and solve all of the world's problems, you are on the wrong boat. Go buy yourself a ticket on the Titanic with the rest of the loons. PS-It does not dock here in Napa. "

Fred wrote on Jul 2, 2007 2:17 PM:

" For a good read on the future, check out "One with Nineveh: Politics, Consumption, and the Human Future," by Paul and Anne Ehrlich. One can quibble over the details of peak oil, global warming, population growth, and the like, but it's pretty obvious that the planet is getting stressed by too many people using up too much land, animals, plants, and water and making too much waste. It's also pretty obvious that the quality of life for most humans is getting worse, not better. It's also pretty obvious that the people who make money off of all of it (a great many of us) don't want to hear that there is any problem at all. By the way, for those who think overpopulation is a problem for the poor countires only, the Ehrlichs point out that the US population is growing faster than any other industrialized country and that it will likely grow from 294 million in 2004, to 350 million in 2025, to 420 million in 2050. "

wolffromPO.com wrote on Jul 2, 2007 3:11 PM:

" It is called "overshoot" and it is simple high-school-level biology. Any species that overpopulates hits the brick wall of resource depletion and environmental degradation. In this regard, humans are no different than detritivore yeast in a barrel of grape juice. Petroleum is our grape juice. When it runs out the population will revert to the mean--if we don't drown in our own excrement first. Reference: "Overshoot" by W.R. Catton Jr. University of Illinois Press 1980 "

To the tinfoil hat contingent wrote on Jul 2, 2007 3:55 PM:

" You've touched on just about every fear-mongering, paranoid, victim-mentality gambit in the conspiracy nut repertoire - the Rothschilds, secret underground cities (you left out black helicopters), HIV introduced by the government, even Maeitreya (haven't seen that mentioned for years.) I've been hearing this same crap for 40 years. And somebody's always crying "the end is near" for the last 2,000 years. Someday when you're on your deathbed (most likely from natural causes, not the calamity you fear) you will wonder why you spent so much of your precious short life worrying about the end and so little time in the here and now. Your negative energy is a real bummer, man... "

charlie wrote on Jul 2, 2007 6:49 PM:

" >>Someday when you're on your deathbed (most likely from natural causes, not the calamity you fear) you will wonder why you spent so much of your precious short life worrying about the end and so little time in the here and now. Your negative energy is a real bummer, man... " "

Poto retired wrote on Jul 2, 2007 7:19 PM:

" The chaos of excess, scarcity, planned inflation, destruction of culture and the middle class is part of a plan to bring the US under the control of the financial power elites. Get used to it. Intil the system hits a wall for any numereous reasons and disintegrates beyond anyone's control, nothing can be accomplished to save America. Postive energy is for getting independent as you possibly can. "

macnamara wrote on Jul 2, 2007 8:02 PM:

" ruff, michael and jim, of course, have got it all figured out! "

skiz wrote on Jul 2, 2007 11:48 PM:

" maybe if they stopped spraying the atmosphere and sickening us menatally and physically we would be better off "

Mike in Iraq wrote on Jul 3, 2007 2:32 AM:

" I'm not wearing a tin hat and all I have to do is look at a map of the middle east with little U.S. flags stuck where ever there is a military base to see we've surrounded the last big pool of oil - Iran. And based on the concrete I see being poured every day we aren't leaving Iraq anytime soon. We've got to keep America rollin'... right over the edge. "

Pale Divine69 wrote on Jul 3, 2007 5:59 AM:

" "somebody's always crying "the end is near" for the last 2,000 years" True. However, within the spectrum of time, hardly the blink of an eye has passed since our species has, with perverse diligence and enthusiasm, constructed the means and technology to ensure our extinction. So the classic rightist denial - embarrassingly absurd given the mass crisis we now face - is as pragmatic as stone ships. Never underestimate the power of denial. "

To the tinfoil hat contingent wrote on Jul 3, 2007 10:09 AM:

" So tell me "Pale Divine69," if it's "rightist" to be skeptical that we face a "mass crisis" then it is leftist to be fearful and preach impending doom? I don't see how putting political tags on people advances your arguments. The same technology you fear will extinguish humankind is the same technology that gives the world a warm place to sleep, a light in the darkness, and food for the table. You seem to be consumed with guilt for being one of the "haves" - and you just can't see how so many people in the world having it so good can possibly continue - too good to be true? No doubt there will be some dark times in the future, if the past is a guide. But I believe mankind will keep stumbling forward. "

redeemed wrote on Jul 3, 2007 12:24 PM:

" The signs are all around us, yet people refuse to listen, just as God's word said would occur. What a frustrating time to live in, yet what a glorious time to be alive. Sure, go ahead and deny the obvious, it doesn't make it any less real. "

xsoid wrote on Jul 3, 2007 4:59 PM:

" type "new world order quotes" onto your keypad. You will find "in their own words" what they have in store for "YOU"...(enjoy)... "

To Mike in Iraq wrote on Jul 3, 2007 5:25 PM:

" Perhaps another way to look at the American & NATO flags in the Middle East is that Iran is the country, led by an extremist, anti-American president and fundamentalist Shia mullahs, with a nuclear weapons program. "

tory wrote on Jul 3, 2007 6:25 PM:

" This needs to be read by as many people as possible. Coming near Independence Day makes it even more appropriate. "

Groy wrote on Jul 4, 2007 8:08 AM:

" This guy has no clue about the daily national budget shortfall... likely more 'fuzzy' accounting. "

Les wrote on Jul 4, 2007 11:37 AM:

" I agree with wolffrom PO, there will be other species that are brought down by the human need for food, resources and toxic waste. As far as the government and business are concerned, it is each and every individuals fault for this. For the finger we point at someone else, three point back at us. Laisez-faire policies toward business and investment has been proven to not work. Historically that policy has lead to recessions or depressions. Business can not be left to do what they want. "

Pale Divine69 wrote on Jul 5, 2007 8:04 AM:

" Tin Foil: It's not so much about applying "political tags" per se as it is correctly identifying the prevailing personality types - for example, ARP - authoritarian right wing personalities - who are the most susceptible to the propaganda and social engineering/brainwashing of the corporate/State nexus media apparatus, which serves as a PR effort for the War Pigs' military-industrial complex. It's no coincidence that those who swallow such lies have identifiable authoritarian traits i.e. irrational attitudes of submission to authority. Thus it is revealing that you equate my concern for humanity with a "guilt" stemming from being one of the "haves." This is typical rightist rhetoric, and displays the warped sense of pride rightists feel in their lack of empathy and/or sympathy for others. Likewise, the technology that has made the world a better place to live in isn't necessarily on par with the high end military technology which the public is, to a substantial extent, tricked into subsidizing. And do you honestly believe the world benefits from nuclear, biological and chemical weaponry? ...or from the chauvinism and jingoism which begets them? Only those drinking from the poisoned well of profits-over-people corporate media [the "liberal" media is a "conservative" fostered mythos which suits their agenda for obvious reasons - Bill Kristol even admits it] perceive concern over dire issues to be the "whining" and "doom preaching" of "tinfoil hat" wearers ... which resonates well among those conditioned to equate humane ideals with signs of weakness. "

Huh? What? wrote on Jul 5, 2007 9:07 AM:

" Sylvia, yours is a specious argument. Did you forget those people must be fed? Housed? Warmed in winter and cooled in summer? They must work, get to and from same? Are you for real? What an ignorant argument. Don't believe in overpopulation? Try living in Calcutta or Bombay or China or Bangladesh or Africa..get the picture? "

Passenger, No Pigeon wrote on Jul 5, 2007 4:23 PM:

" When you think of the sinking of the Titanic it is important to remember a few things: __(1) There were passengers in 3rd class steerage. They were locked up below decks as the ship sank and not allowed near the lifeboats. __(2) The crew 'maintained order' and helped the '1st and 2nd Class' passengers board the lifeboats although most of the crew died. __(3) Many of the '1st Class' passengers died anyway. Some passengers who would be the current equivalent of a billionaire lost their lives. When circumstances are dire, money alone does not insulate very well. __ What does that tell the thoughtful? __ (1) If you are not rich in Bushworld, NOBODY is looking out for you, not even 'the crew'. __(2) There are folks, "crewmembers", who will support 'the system' as it destroys itself and them. They are likely to tell you lies to make it easier to control you. __(3) The richest 1% of America will end up with fancier caskets. ~Ruff "

Sandra wrote on Jul 8, 2007 10:51 AM:

" hmmm...Before you throw stones and claim certain viewpoints have succumbed to a personality disorder called ARP, perhaps you should read Tammy Bruce's book, "The Death of Right and Wrong". It talks about a phenomenom called Group Think. You may have fallen victim to that. What is worse...ARP, or Group Think? Oh Horrors...There is always many sides to every story. And those who throw stones the hardest are usually part of the problem. "

Halcyon Days wrote on Jul 9, 2007 11:43 PM:

" So the slingshot has been put away??? I miss the halcyon days when all the war non-fanatics were just a bunch of naive naifs who did not understand that Islamofascism was a unique threat in all the history of the world. Now that another 300 American troops have died how well is the Bush Republican war of choice working out? At one hundred plus a month, the deathtoll be be at 5,000 before Bush leaves office. The question remains... will that be enough? ARP is a form of Group Think. "

Jonchile wrote on Jul 10, 2007 10:47 AM:

" If everyone in the world were in the state of Alaska, every person would have about 1500 sq ft of space. Overcrowding?? Please do your homework.. "

Steven J wrote on Jul 11, 2007 10:27 AM:

" Just a note: No one is breathing your air, taking up your space or consuming your food, water, oil etc. The only thing other persons existence does regardless of numbers is annoy your emotions. Separate your emotions (bias/feelings) from your consciousness and you will, possibly for the first time, be objective and realize that all of your concern is just a means to your end of gaining subject survival advantages by passing laws against other persons existence. "

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