" that the Register didn't publish this news until 5 and well after the papers were delivered today? It's newish news but it's not new as of 5 PM today, more like new within the last couple of days. Can it be that the BOS doesn't want public input? Can't imagine why not, but I guess the Register considers itself aligned with the county on this one. "

" This develpment will be good for the city and the county. Napa needs smart infill growth. We are running out of infill projects. This will be one of the last major develpments. Without this one to generate tax money don't plan on seeing an overpass at highway 29/Soscal or highway 29 and highway 12. New, smart develpment aimed at highlighting the Napa River trail. Perfect for the Napa Valley! "

" wow another win for the "ELITE" fill in any industrial area with high dollar homes great job . "

" Good effort at twisiting the facts, "Good for Napa," but your bias is showing. You know the Napa Pipe project as proposed would be a terrible mess. Isn't urban growth supposed to be happening in urban areas? This is the equivalent of a whole new city of 3,000+ people on the outskirts of Napa. A thoroughly bad idea, and not infill in any sense of the word. Napans said no to the rich Texas developers in the 90s and they will say no to this plan, too... "

" this is the most awful thing i've heard in a long time!! i agree the public should have been informed of this meeting ahead of time. i also think that adding 3200 homes, figure thats another 12,000 people at least living here. where are these people going to send their kids for school? how much water and sewer will they use? what about poice and fire (browns valley needs that more then any one right now) whos going to pave the roads and do up keep on them? the city and county both are behind on the streets we have now. this over all is a awful idea and we need to make sure those that we put into office know that!!! "

" i could give you a list of things that would be better then more over sized over priced homes... how about a large park, softball/baseball fields, football fields, a dirt bike track, large dog park the list could keep going! the last thing napa needs is that large of a housing project that in the end will drain the bank and over crowd the highways even more along with local classrooms. "

" Good for the County! Another project they approve without the consideration of who will pay the road taxes for the additional traffic, or who will pay for the water needed, or who will pay for the government services. Yeah another problem child creating another elitest project right at the mouth of the Napa Valley. Good luck for you businesses relying on toursim this one will definitely cork up the valley.....er pardon the pun. Why not get Napa's ok since you will need the water and services. I say check out what other communities have to say and for once put forth a project with a consensus what a great idea! Try it you might like it. "

" You are kidding, right? Are you aware that people who already live within the city of Napa are underserved for emergency response? Adding 3200 houses certainly won't help that. And who is looking for the overpasses that you mention? I've never heard of that. Regardless, we have an RUL for a reason. Don't let the county dictate to the city. "

" Where are all these kids supposed to go to school? "

" that had no problem trying to swipe over a million bucks from the housing authority of the city of Napa will have no problem blithely shoehorning those kids into city schools. A lawsuit here, a threat there and bingo - the city will be stuck with supplying water and emergency services. We'll still need a road tax to improve any local roads, and the road tax passage is highly improbable, particularly after city taxes go up year after year to pay for the additional services. Forget about fixing Soscol as a gateway; it won't even BE a gateway anymore. Oh, yeah, I'm sure the county will offer something in return - maybe allow a few locals to park in its new parking garage in downtown Napa. "

" The meeting is to determine if there is enough detail to order an environmental report. Can we all just wait to see a report before passing judgment? The process the project has to go through will answer your questions. "lost in the mix," did you not read that 20% will meet low to moderate housing rquirements? If everyone is so concerned, go to the meeting. All I'm saying is have all the facts before passing judement. "

" Folks, keep an eye on this one. The BOS meeting today is just one step towards the approval to build the proposed project. No doubt, the Board of Supervisors (especially Mark Luce and Bill Dodd) will want to postpone any decision to approve this project until after they are re-elected in June of 2008. They will drag this issue on for another year until after the election and then approve the project. The only way to stop this project as proposed is to get Luce and Dodd to make personal commitments to have a community task force spend at least a year working together with the developer to ensure any approved project meets county and city needs. Keep their feet to the fire or elect two new supervisors in 2008. "

" Oh... and don't forget the traffic on Butler Bridge coming into Napa in the morning and leaving at night or the Soscol traffic heading south in the evening. Average home has two cars... let's see... that's 6,400 more cars on the road with an average of 3-4 trips a day? That works out to about 25,600 more cars on the road per day. I'm not looking forward to that. "

" Are you kidding me? In the same paper is a story on A.C. forclosures including a break down for all of napa county, and you want to build 3200 more homes?? My God, people cant even keep the ones they got and you want to build more. Wow, just wow Just my $.02 "

" Waiting and seeing didn't work out too well for the last Rogal steamroller, and it is just as pointless here. However, really all of the apprehension is useless; I think we all know that ultimately this is a done deal. "

" Well, it looks like there is consistency in the world after all. The city can not take care of the streets or schools it already has, they spent a bazillion dollars on a flood project that raped some beautiful and historic landmarks (never mind dealing with real flooding causes like the bridge on Napa Creek), and, oh yes, that little issue about growing gang violence (don’t worry, we won’t say anything ethnic, that wouldn’t be PC). But here is a solution to the affordable housing (in Napa?) question. We will build the affordable housing on some of the lowest lying flood plain land in the valley. And road maintenance, you might want to make these roads out of rubber because the land there is river sediment, very wet and loose. Speaking of compaction, say you build these homes with two-foot high foundations. Give it five years and many of these will be sitting directly on the ground due to settling. You might also want to equip every home with a lifeboat because that is the flood plain. It’s a pretty wet place on any given normal winter. Through in some moderate to heavy rains and a high tide, (oh yah, there is no tide on the Napa River), and it’s time to start rowing. "

" I think Mr. Rogal should be the one living right in the middle of what he is trying to create, and he can wait 3 hours just to get in or out of Napa. and ALSO EXPLAIN TO THE HOMEOWNERS IN THIS CITY WHY HE COMES FIRST!!! Maybe he should just stay in San Fancisco!! Nice going Napa officals for letting everyone know about this meeting on the day it happens!!! "

" This is a travesty. I agree 100% with Skip M. If good folks like Skip weren't leaving in droves, maybe this poor old town wouldn't be going downhill as fast as it is. But unfortunately it is; good folks moving out, bad folks moving in, the rest of us just trying to hang in there. For the first time in my life I have started to have second thoughts about staying here in Napa where I grew up. I'm just not sure how much more I can stand. First the flood control project, the biggest sham in Napa history, gets approved and gets busy destroying the character and "soul" downtown. Eventually there will be houses on the Ghisletta land of Foster, a true shame as that is some of the most beatiful open space in the county. They have already destroyed most of the historic eucalyptus strand along Stanly Lane for now good reason at all except to save a few crummy grapvines. And now this Rogal character is trying to ram this monstrosity down our throats. Here's one local who is thoroughly disgusted with our local govt. and business "leaders." "

" So, "Wait and see," you think we should wait for an environmental impact report? We've been down THIS road time and time again..and we all know that the rubberstamping will begin immediately after the first reading is rendered. Don't try fooling others and, certainly, don't fool yourself. You know what I say is true. No EIR is going to address and mitigate all the complications which will arise from such a huge development...we all know THIS is true, also. And we also all know that the taxes generated from such a massive residential development will not pay for the needs of the development...not by a long shot. And we all KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE! too. Wait and see, indeed....what, we should watch the dog and pony show, once again? Watch our city planners, our county Supervisors stand back and grin from ear to ear as they imagine pots of gold rolling from the developers' megaproject? Yeah, right!!! And Skip M...right on! We don't need to sit throught hours of "show" (for the benefit of the public - haha -)and thousands of words designed to manipulate and misrepresent to know when a boondoggle / fiasco / opportunistic scheme is in front of us. I've sat through dozens and dozens of such meetings and 99% of the time, the end is always the same.....build it and it will pay for itself (PIPEDREAM!!) And Skip M...you are so right and specific and, of course, these mere trivialities will be overlooked and ignored; placed in the circular file of "oh I didn't know that" when applying the same illogic to this current travesty. Good for Napa? Is yours a quote from the hand book of "how to rubberstamp a project using the same ole tried and oh so untrue formula"? Infill? What are you talking about? Smart growth? There's that cliche again...it is an oxymoron...it is self cancelling. C'mon, you can come up w/something better than that in your attempt to convince people to sell the farm. Anyway, Skip M. and Old Napan; I left Napa but still lament the loss of what was once a truly beautiful place...I left my home of 20 years which is right around the corner from my birth home; because the inmates are running the asylum and no one is stopping them. So, life is short and reviving the real Napa is a losing battle. Better leave while you can. "

" Way to Go Napa. . now develope this into the most expensive housing in the county as we all know low income houseing for Napa Seniors or low income families are forbidden. "

" To everyone who is complaining, do you have kids? I have lived in napa for 25 years and hope to one day raise a family here, but who could honestly afford to own, let alone live here. Do i find it fair that i should have to move away from my family that has been here 80+ years because even though i went to school, have a great job still can't afford to live here. NO! Mr. Rogal isn't building houses that only the rich can afford, he's giving hard working local people like myself the chance to someday do the exact same thing you people once dreamed about and were given the chance to! "

" you complain about where are the kids going to go to school, but where do you think these kids are going to live when they grow up! Think people, as our population goes up which i think its safe to say were responsible for, were going to need places for these "kids" to live! "