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Question of the week: Do you think the Napa flood control project will be complete in five years?
Tuesday, February 06, 2007
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Vix wrote on Feb 6, 2007 1:54 PM:

" It's hard to say if it will be done in five years. Why is it not done now? Everything else gets built just fine. Quickly I might add. Copia? Built. New intersection at Redwood and 29? Done. New houses? Tons. New apartments? Luxury or "affordable". Open Space? Going going.... But the one thing that NEEDED to get done isn't? Nice new Police S.U.V.s city of Napa. Maybe we could sell those and put the money towards the flood control. What good are they anyways? My point is, why are we building a bunch of nice new luxury homes, and a couple low income units, and buying some nice new gas guzzlers for the cops? So it can all get flooded? "

Of Course Not wrote on Feb 6, 2007 2:50 PM:

" We're too concerned with keeping 100 ft of walkway on the River at $5000+ per ft than we ar with getting the project done. "

napablogger wrote on Feb 6, 2007 4:21 PM:

" In a word, no. I am studying taxes at all levels of government right now, and the level of debt we are accumulating at all levels is scary. There is no money to do much of anything new, much less maintain what we already have going. The flood project is Exhibit A of what happens with an overextended government. "

skeptic wrote on Feb 6, 2007 6:12 PM:

" There will be more funding delays than there are dollars. Also, the levees, particularly around Sacramento, are generating a lot more concern right now than a strip of downtown Napa. Remember, in the eyes of the legislature, Napa is a wealthy area. Sorry. "

Kevin wrote on Feb 6, 2007 6:51 PM:

" Do you mean "complete" as in "will it actually work?" Then I would have to say "never". With a high tide, south wind and Conn Dam overflowing, we will flood just the same as we always have... "

Reality speaking wrote on Feb 6, 2007 7:43 PM:

" To Vix - most of what you talk about was built with private money, not public money, so there is no comparison. And the one thing built with public money, the 29-Trancas interchange, took nearly 50 years to get funded, so not the best example. To skeptic - you're right, Napa's is a small project compared to many others. To Kevin - the flood project was designed with all those things considered - tides, winds, Conn Dam - so your pessimism is unfounded... "

Sandra wrote on Feb 7, 2007 7:36 AM:

" I have a question...When the plan for the flood was made was it made for Napa as it currently stood, or was it made with the idea that more building would be done in the flood plain? Has anyone seen the construction of the new Market Place by Copia? Have you seen how much fill dirt has ben brought in? The elevation has been raised significantly. Where is that displaced water to go, except into Downtown? "

Wet Feet wrote on Feb 7, 2007 11:40 AM:

" What a boon doggle, I would not have started a project that was unsure of it's funding for how much and for how long. The democrates may take the funds to pay for more sneedless social programs. But I understand that through the Army Corps of Engineers there maybe be funding for our "non-tidal" river flood project. "

Mrs Little wrote on Feb 7, 2007 12:40 PM:

" I try to focus on the things I have seen so far and of those I'm pretty satisfied. 1- The River Walk, not completed by any means, but the section that's has been is great. I can't wait for it to be completed. 2- Imola Bridge, OK, that was overkill, why do we need such a high bridge over the Napa River? The only thing I see on the river is pleasure boats and perhaps those rich enough to own one really really big will appreciate it, but now that it's completed, it looks great and it's a great place to see the fireworks on the 4th of July. 3- The bridges on Third St., Second St. and Soscol Ave. Beautiful to look at and very functional. I expect that once the Flood Plan is completed, it will help the problem here in Napa. Lots of money already spent and lots more to follow. I voted yes on the Flood Plan knowing that it would take a decade to finish (fingers crossed). I vowed then that I would not vote yes on any other Tax Measure until this one has been completed and I intend to stick to that vow. No-No-No and I don't care if it's more money for schools, more money for shelter, more money for police & fire, more money for road repair. They can all wait until this one has been completed and that tax recinded. Then and only then will I consider a yes vote for another. That's the way I manage my own household budget. You spend what you can afford and then you stop spending. "

John wrote on Feb 7, 2007 5:59 PM:

" I suppose it might be complete in 5 years, but I'd have to agree with Kevin in saying that it won't work. We will still flood as before. The whole project is a lot of pointless destruction. Very sad. "

Napa local wrote on Feb 7, 2007 6:01 PM:

" The new Imola bridge looks terrible. It's also sad to see the destruction this project has caused in the downtown area. It now looks barren and depressing, and when it is finished it will simply look artificial. "

Suze wrote on Feb 7, 2007 9:31 PM:

" This valley has always flooded. If you have witnessed the true scale of any of the 'big' floods then you will know that a little digging and shuffling of dirt is not going to get it; flooding is what this valley does during unusual weather episodes. The hillside creeks spew water into the valley floor faster than it can disperse. It is essentially a narrow valley. I would love to think that all the poor folks in the low income housing in the flood plain (yes, part of downtown) were not going to have to go through this again, but if nature follows its course then the floods will happen periodically. I'm sure the efforts so far will lessen the burden on some, but the funding is going to Iraq unfortunately. "

Shawna wrote on Feb 8, 2007 6:59 AM:

" Even if they do finish it in five years, we will still flood. I believe that Copia and any other inportant building will be safe, but as for the neiborhoods and in general we will still see water in the streets. Well lets just wait and see. That is if it gets finished. By the way I still see people blowing all of their yard debris in the streets and leaving it there. This will cause a problem too. Clean up after yourselves. "

Are you kidding?! wrote on Feb 11, 2007 12:03 PM:

" This city can't finish anything in timelines. The sidewalks, for example, are being done downtown. Brown Street was started in November; parallel streets are completed and still the first sidewalk done will be the last finished. And why didn't they start with Beard Rd and Main Street, amng many others that need new paving, THAT shoud've been first. They'll keep working on parts of the river insted of the creek and keep doing things backwards, as always, and before you know it, we'll be in year 2015 and it still won't be done. If the rich want to keep tourism jumping and keep the tourists from being driven away by flooding, maybe they should donate to the flood fund and help the city out, since the city takes such good care of them... "

John from Napa wrote on Feb 11, 2007 12:24 PM:

" You state in your editorial some of our flood funds has gone towards aiding the victims of Katrina and Rita, and this is likely very true. But the real reason this project, and the thousands of other infrastructure projects and programs around our country, go begging and are delayed is due to the trillion dollar sink holes our president has gotten us into in Iraq and Afghanistan. "

Napa Family wrote on Feb 12, 2007 1:23 AM:

" The more money you have, the further away they can buy.... Look at Old Town Napa.. we all try to buy our first home..and this is about all we can afford..then what happens... We get flooded out. Please help old town residents and not go through it again. Next Flood, we will be forced to sell and I guess rent. Thanks Napa Flood Control Staff "

Doomed wrote on Feb 12, 2007 1:27 AM:

" Society is doomed and it's all at the hands of ignorant unknowing and uncaring government employees. I say we fire the whole bunch, lock stock and barrell and hire some new ones that really need a job and will be honest. We need to get these apathetic morons out once and for all to keep from falling into another depression. The US Government WANTS a DEPRESSION and will raise rates until they achieve that goal. You watch and see...they will cut us off at the knees so we can't fight back. Doomed...and unarmed. "

paleeeze wrote on Feb 12, 2007 5:48 AM:

" I'm not an insider but I am a perpetual victim of the floods. I dont see anything that has been done that actually looks like it will prevent a flood. I agree that it looks like everytime Copia and the surrounding properties do any construction it would seem to put the people who usually get flooded in a worse position. I believe that the powers that be in Napa are more interested in making the city in to a "world class tourist destination" than anything else. I beleive they are doing whatever they can to that end and using flood control as a good umbrella to get the money they need. In fact, I have been through 6 floods in Napa and the last one was by far the worst. "

Timmy wrote on Feb 12, 2007 7:43 AM:

" I hope the project is not finished. I believe that nature should take its course. If people have houses in danger of flooding I think that's there problem to deal with. I kind of think it's funny when peoples houses are destroyed from landslides and floods. You shouldn't live in a house where that could easily happen. "

Napa world class wrote on Feb 12, 2007 8:38 AM:

" If only there was enough money to continue the flood control project at a faster rate. Yes I think that what they have done will prevent a major flood especially in South Napa. The major concern is the creek and finishing the flood plain near Copia. Stop complaining! The city is doing everything possible. This is a world class project that has funding problems. The project itself is wonderful! "

slammin211s wrote on Feb 12, 2007 8:44 PM:

" The napa flood control is the biggest bunch of nonsense perpertrated upon napans ever. I remember when the measure was voted upon, i was 12 and knew it was a bad idea. you know its funny where napa decided to build the town. If you ever visit Oroville, youll notice that they werent idiots and didnt build in the flood plain of the feather river. Pretty common sense for a town thats basically a meth lab with a mayor. Now for my point. It isnt the citys job, or anyone elses to make sure YOUR home or business doesnt flood. Its flooded before, it will flood again. This is what insurance is for. If you dont want to deal with the flooding, simple solution, DONT LIVE IN THE FLOOD PLAIN! Seriously folks it isnt rocket science. Rivers flood. Ill even let you in on why the floods get worse every year. Because the vineyards upvalley decided to plant vines in the floodplain but they dont want em to flood so they built levees, so it channels all the water into town, so now the town floods so they can protect their precious vines. but hey, maybe those folks in oroville are pretty smart, despite their towns reputation. "

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