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Downtown Napa is getting its mojo back.

North on Main Street and all along First Street, ground has been broken for two hotels, two store/office complexes and a public market that backers hope will rival the million-shopper draw of Napa Premium Outlets.
Come spring, the $50 million Riverfront at Third and Main, a keystone project with stores, restaurants, offices and condos, is expected to be rising by the river.

This will be the greatest construction surge in downtown's history. By next summer, nearly $200 million worth of commercial projects totaling 640,000 square feet should be going up.
City-sponsored redevelopment in the 1970s was only half as big.

In many cases, projects delayed for years due to an ailing tourist economy, lack of key tenants or slow progress by the flood control project are finally coming to life. The stage is set for two years of furious construction activity at all four corners of the central business district, with the prospect of yet more to come.
With two more hotels possible near Copia and an office/residential development at the Cinedome theater, downtown could easily have more than 1 million square feet in new construction within a decade, officials say.

This would be a more than 50 percent increase in downtown's current non-residential square footage, according to city figures.

"There is all of a sudden ... plenty of buyers who believe in downtown," said Bill Kampton, a commercial broker with Colliers International who is leasing space at Napa Square, which is under construction at First and Randolph streets.

The opening of Copia five years ago helped put downtown on the map and now others want part of the action, said Harry Price, owner of Napa Mill and a partner in Napa Square. "I think downtown is now perceived as part of the Napa Valley," he said.

"You have to be a believer in downtown Napa," said Chris Gebert, a vice president of development with Lodgeworks, which is building the $43 million, 142-room Inn at Town Center on First.

Gebert is so bullish, he predicts that downtown in five years will be "another Aspen, Colorado, or at least we hope it will be."

Cassandra Walker, the city's economic development manager, doesn't buy the Aspen aspiration. "We're creating the type of downtown that locals will want to see," she said.

What is undeniable, Walker said, is that "a lot of factors have aligned in this time and in this space" to create change on a dramatic scale.

"I think downtown's image has changed," said Doyle Wiseman of the Wiseman Company, who is investing an estimated $12 million to build a three-story commercial building at Main and Clinton streets.

Downtown is hot, with land values more than doubling since he opened his first office building five years ago at Main and First, Wiseman said.

"Napa downtown prices are a lot like city downtown prices," said Wiseman, who paid more than $100 a square foot for his north Main site.

This is four times the price of a Fairfield business park, but his office tenants are willing to pay it, he said. They like downtown Napa's urban amenities, such as restaurants.

Movement at Merrills

With the pace of change picking up, the Altamura family may be ready to make its move with Napa Town Center and the empty Merrills building on First.

Come February, the Altamuras intend to share a conceptual plan with the city of Napa Planning Commission for a five-story condo development, with retail on the first floor.

The Upvalley cities are essentially full, and the unincorporated areas of the county are off limits to most development, George Altamura Jr. said. "The only place you can buy property and do something is in the city of Napa," he said.

By encouraging hotels and condos downtown, the city will finally have the shoppers to attract the stores needed to make downtown the commercial hub it once was, Altamura said.

Steve Carlin, CEO of Oxbow Public Market, is banking on downtown achieving unprecedented popularity with tourists, but he isn't worried.

"If you are going to do something spectacular, you are going to have to take a high amount of risk," Carlin said. "We like to be out in front of the curve. It doesn't frighten us. We're long-term investors."

Oxbow Public Market, with affordable restaurants, food stalls and other merchants, will be located next to Copia, which opened five years ago, very much in front of the curve.

After five years of disappointing attendance, Copia is overhauling its business plan and hoping to sell off its south gardens for a hotel-retail development.

At the current pace of change, Copia and the new Oxbow District should soon be in the tourism mainstream, said Carlin, who predicts the Oxbow Public Market alone could draw 1 million visitors a year. This would be more than five times the number now going to Copia.

When the flood project is completed sometime in the next decade and the risk of flooding eliminated, even more entrepreneurs will want to be downtown near the river, Carlin said. Land values will continue to soar, he said.

"I think Napa is on the map for growth," said Mike DeSimoni, whose family company, Channel Properties, will be developing Riverfront at Third and Main.

Lenders are naturally cautious about a high-end, mixed-use development on the river that could cost up to $50 million, DeSimoni said. The family will be using its own resources to finance the project, he said.

"I believe the project will be a home run," said DeSimoni, who expects to start construction in April.

Office rents could be in the $4 to $6 a square foot range, well above anything now charged in downtown -- "we will break the sound barrier" -- but DeSimoni isn't worried. "I think it will be the address to have and the building to be in," he said.

DeSimoni's project is in keeping with city policies that now encourage developments that mix commercial and residential uses. The city is also allowing greater height and density, wanting downtown to achieve a concentration of vitality that has been missing.
60 comment(s)

George wrote on Dec 10, 2006 10:38 AM:

" More power to all who want to make a stand and restore downtown Napa. While cities like Vallejo are still planning and wishing, Napa has taken several steps forward. Fairfield's business park maybe cheaper. Nothing against Fairfield however being closer to amenities eill help. "

Surprised wrote on Dec 10, 2006 11:01 AM:

" Oh fabulous! Just what this area needs; more phony, pseudo, rich want to be, high school level degree of social retardation type mentality running Napa. They never grow up and stop feeding their ever expanding egos, do they? WE SEE YOU. WE ARE AWARE OF YOU..but, that isn't enough, is it? Your fragile little egos can never get get enough. Such a tragedy. "

Napan wrote on Dec 10, 2006 1:05 PM:

" disgusting "

Yes! wrote on Dec 10, 2006 5:41 PM:

" As a Napan, I say- it's about time, I would love nothing better than to be able to shop in downtown Napa.Let super slow growth be a thing of Napa's good ole boy past. "

Irritated wrote on Dec 10, 2006 6:07 PM:

" And yet again, what is there for kids to do?? Why not open another roller rink? The skate park is a place of unsupervised drug dealing.. Some of Napa's finest hang out there. Here we go again! "

what about the Uptown? wrote on Dec 10, 2006 7:19 PM:

" The Uptown is an eyesore.If you don't plan on finishing it and opening it- sell it already. "

to Yes! wrote on Dec 10, 2006 10:14 PM:

" As a life-long resident, I say that's nonsense. Preserve our great town. And whats wrong with the good old boys? "

I love Napa wrote on Dec 11, 2006 7:40 AM:

" I cannot imagine the kind of minds that come up with the words "disgusting" and "tragedy" in response to this story. You find a more vibrant, active, interesting and economically healthy town "disgusting"? You think more jobs and things to do in Napa a "tragedy"? What is it you want? "

Napastani wrote on Dec 11, 2006 12:15 PM:

" In 2000 I was at a party in San Francisco where a BofA business real estate executive said that Napa will be the next "Aspen" as quoted in the above article. This is due to the extremely finite space within the Napa Valley as a whole for development. It will be just a matter of time that the city will be rebuilt and re-imaged into a precious object and cultural icon of the food/wine world. It will certainly bring some improvements to the city in terms of the engagement of downtown Napa. The county would be wise to move or redesign its offices on First Street, since they are such an eyesore. I would comment that this would be an opportunity to actually rebuild old stone buildings that stood on that land, using photographs and any drawings that may still exist. That would be an exciting urban experiment. I think there are those that will feel the loss of the old Napa, the blue-collar laid back Napa. But I think with some attention to the spirit of development downtown, we can bring some of that feeling back by simply looking to our past and planning the spirit of it into our future. Unfortunately, we cannot get those old buildings back and rebuilding them may, for a time make the downtown seem "Disney-land" like, but after a time that feeling will pass. If we allow some interesting modern architecture to interweave like Stanley Saitowitz's fine Oxbow school buildings, we will have a very interesting new vibrant town to live in! We also have to pay attention to the kind of normal amenities a downtown needs, like a small grocery store, drug store, maintain our fantastic hardware store so that practical things can be done among the terrific restaurants and hotels that are appearing in our midst. "

to Napstani and "I love Napa" wrote on Dec 11, 2006 2:09 PM:

" What you're saying is pure propaganda, and it is sad that you actually seem to buy into it. But then again, from the sound of it both of you are recent transplants and not true locals and are therefore unlikely to grasp what is really going on here. What was once a real, decent, working-man's town is under attack from big money, what once was real is becoming false. "

Napa native wrote on Dec 12, 2006 1:34 AM:

" "Another Aspen"? *vomit* Just what are these people smoking?? "

I love Napa wrote on Dec 12, 2006 10:25 AM:

" For the record, I have lived here for 20 years so I am not a recent transplant. It's interesting that some people think they have a superior understanding of what is "real" and what is "false." I grew up in a lower middle class working-man's family and I saw plenty of what was "real" - 10 hour days in the plant trying to make ends meet. You romanticize and idealize your ideas of what it is to be "working class." The world has changed, Napa has changed, and if you want to ride the bitter bus that's your choice... "

Shawna wrote on Dec 12, 2006 12:20 PM:

" I have grown up in Napa since 1969. I know people will say things change and cities grow. Well that maybe true but a real hometown feel, is when you go place and know people. Like Butter Cream the same faces. When you get places like Home Depot, Walmart, etc. there is no feeling when you go to buy or shop. Take a look around at old cities like Pleasant Hill, Cotati, even places in Oregon. I could go on. Everytime the people planners of Napa think of a new way to spend money, it never really works out. Yes, maybe sometimes but why do you have to spend so much to get make it look better, why don't you just try getting some good stores/shop and then they will come. And remember just because we live in Napa we don't have to charge so much for rent/overhead to run these places. And really what about the kids. It was good times when we use to go to RiverPark Shopping Center on the weekends, you could go to the movies at RiverPark Movie Theater or Go visit Charlie and Family at the Skating Rink. GOOD TIMES!! Now the kids think fun is going out trashing peoples cars, stealing golf carts.. Nice.. I not saying there weren't a few bad seeds, but not like now. So lets just see what happens. Look at RiverPark now. Good luck to all you new wanabe Napan'. "

good point Shawna wrote on Dec 12, 2006 2:03 PM:

" The more they try to gentrify and redesign, the worse everything gets. More crime, more traffic and crowding, more ugly and out of place new architecture. It's not as if things have always been perfect, or mistakes haven't been made in the past, but this is something else... "

Saddened wrote on Dec 12, 2006 2:06 PM:

" I guess the unfortunate fact we see demontrated in this story, and in the current climate in the town of Napa, is that greed nearly always prevails, and the rich can generally do as the please (to hell with everyone else). "

Born & Raised on the Island of Napa wrote on Dec 12, 2006 2:27 PM:

" I am a third generation napan, born & raised here. Lucky enough to own a home and am now raising two children here. Development is bound to happen. Downtown,Auto Row,Riverpark, all of these places are all part of our memories, but these places need work, need revitalization, and it is all coming.With this brings tourism,traffic, etc.. I hate it, I curse the tourism constantly, but answer this, if we didn't have the tourism, or wineries (ugh), driving our economy, we would not have such a beautiful world renowned place to live. I THINK THE REAL ISSUE IS: For at least 30 years there has been a need for more activities for kids, more family resturaunts, we need more playfields for youth sports, Why not force these hotel developers to build fields or fund an after school program for at risk youth, etc. The Ideas are endless but I think one thing that is being forgotten with development,tourism,extra help for our workers who make the winery owners rich, is THE WORKING FAMILY. "

old song wrote on Dec 12, 2006 4:30 PM:

" I'm Talkin' bout Mill Valley California..., that's my home...New words for I love Napa. "

Surprised wrote on Dec 12, 2006 8:21 PM:

" What is it we want, "I love Napa?" We want the false, phony, self agrandizing egoists to move out, stay out and leave this place alone. We want the power brokers, wine imbibers, #160.00 a plate diners to go back to L.A. We want apologists to stop creating situation which need apologies. We want real vibrant, real community, not 'put together overnight' facimilies of reality. I want this stupid "world class" fantasy to go away. Who cares about world class but the very egotistical, wanna be big fish in small town personalities? Certainly not anyone who loves true community, not the garish, characterless, souless, poorly designed joke known as Copia and now, it's next generation jokes planned for downtown Napa. It's all investers and money grubbing opportunists feeding off what was once a true community. Go away "

Shawna wrote on Dec 12, 2006 8:27 PM:

" Not Mill Valley. Leave it to someone from Mill Valley to say nothing important. "

to Shawna wrote on Dec 12, 2006 8:59 PM:

" I think he was saying that the poster "I love Napa" we be more at home in Mill Valley. "

to Surprised wrote on Dec 12, 2006 9:01 PM:

" Well said. "

I love Napa wrote on Dec 13, 2006 7:28 AM:

" I don't get the Mill Valley reference, I think I've been there one time. I don't live in Marin, I live in Napa. "Born and Raised" touches on the key fact. If it weren't for the Ag Preserve and high-end "world class" wine, the City of Napa would be 150,000 or more and would look more like Vacaville or Fremont or pick your sprawling place. Are those places more "real"? Slow growth has made Napa property more valuable and more "world class" - the alternative is sprawl. Without vineyards and wine and tourists, what economy would we have now? Heavy industry is offshore. Manufacturing is offshore. We are lucky to have what we have. "Surprised" wants "real community," but then rants about buildings. Community doesn't come from buildings, it comes from people, and many of us who live here take part in a very real, healthy community, rather than snapping and snarling about how much better everything was in the "good old days." Maybe you can define what "real community" means to you? It strikes me that many posters here come off as fundamentally anti-capitalist - anyone trying to make money is just an opportunist. Funny, but the people who came west and made California home were mostly capitalist opportunists, weren't they? Sam Brannan? George Yount? Nathan Coombs? They wanted to build something and make money. And now that desire is wrong? Most of us get a paycheck from some company that was created by somebody who had the nerve to take a risk and build something. Maybe you should say thanks to all those phony money-grubber opportunists... "

Herb wrote on Dec 13, 2006 8:29 AM:

" Caen, the old champion of three dot Caen, the old champion of three dot journalism coined an as phrase he often used "Mahvelous (sp) Marin." Take a good look at Mill Valley, a quaint even idyllic little town that had toy, shoe and hardware stores, local markets and a movie theater, serving people who actually lived in the town and used by the community and changed to what it is today. If you wish to remain blind and ignorant then that is your choice. The I love Napa and born and raised here syndrome gets no sympathy when you refuse to understand change and how you are responsible for it. Mill Valley feared an invasion of the underclass and wound up with fancy restaurants, upscale boutiques an art film movie house and A high school that once boasted athletic teams that Napa schools used to dream of and today competes with the weak sisters of the neighborhood. World Class blowhards have no sense of community only ambition. "

Change is good! wrote on Dec 13, 2006 8:58 AM:

" Well said "I love Napa". I am so excited about the changes coming our way and am truly confused by those that do not want to see a more vibrant, active downtown. The changes at Bel Air Plaza are a great example of how new shops can revitalize and old area. The parking situation needs to be addressed, but look at the wonderful shops and choices we now have! The Whole Foods will really complete the package and I can't wait for it to open. To those that prefer outdated dilapitated buildings and stores....are you kidding??? "

Surprised wrote on Dec 13, 2006 9:21 AM:

" We're coming off as fundamentally anti BS carpetbagging opportunists. Yes, it is NOT about buildings; it's about history, it's about familiarity, it's about sustenance, it's about longevity...not a facade created overnight to assuage the minority of "me first, look at me, me me me" and while you're at it, have a glass of wine" types. Go away! "

Surprised wrote on Dec 13, 2006 10:16 AM:

" Actually, that's : "...truly confused by those WHO do not want to ..." not "that," for heaven's sake. Want to lecture; get the mechanics right! You don't understand because you are unable to understand. Period. I guess it's all about shopping! The American way. Shop 'till you drop! And while you're at it....grow up! "

change for the sake of change wrote on Dec 13, 2006 12:09 PM:

" is not a good thing. It is unfortunate that more people do not understand this. "

1 Million Visotors To Oxbow, Copia? wrote on Dec 13, 2006 2:13 PM:

" Have you missed the news Carlin, Copia is already a collosal failure. And 1 millions people? How will they get there, and where will they park? But lets say Mr. Carlin gets his 1 million visotors annualy. Where does that leave the local residents of Napa? Stuck in infinite traffic. How do we solve this? Vote out all out current supervisors and planners. They;re selling the People of Napa out for the financial gains of the Elite Few. "

Surprised wrote on Dec 13, 2006 5:38 PM:

" Million Visitors...." Exactly right! Couldn't have said it better. The (supposedly) elite (read snobbish, "better than...") gain at the expense of true community, true town atmosphere. What was Napa has been completely disassembled in the name of "prosperity," "thriving," "vibrant," (all from the school of PR propaganda). Again, enough is enough. These wanna be little fish are simply creating another upper class, "world class" cookie cutter enclave. Grow up "

All that Glitters is Gold! wrote on Dec 13, 2006 10:01 PM:

" Ah yes, Whole Foods, Trader Joe's and Cost Plus (not to mention we needed two Targets) are making Napa the next Aspen. Of course you champions of our new direction,failed to mention the increased crime, run down neighborhoods nor gang activity. I guess if we land Pier 1 and Macy's all will be ok? It has nothing to do with "Bitter old people" and removing that awful clock tower, it has to do with prioritizing money on the needs of a city. You have $50M to spend on glitz and glitter but not a buck on simple projects like filling potholes and feeding the homeless? Enjoy your new river walk folks, just be REALLY careful if you chose to walk it after midnight. Que Lastima eh? "

Lynn wrote on Dec 14, 2006 4:42 AM:

" "I love Napa" uses terms such as "kind of minds," "rant and rave," "bitter,"rants," when referring to other posters. This type of characterizing the opponent is typical of those schooled in the divide and concur discipline and, be truly aware, this is a concerted effort to catagorize those who disagree by using the above and other phrases in an attempt to undermine and disarm those w/another view. It is personal yet presented as not personal. This writer (I love Napa) is expert in labeling others. Now, to the point. The '70's "downtown revitalization" failed miserably in Napa. The '80's First St. mall has failed miserably in Napa and has had (how many?) at least three owners; once selling at a great loss. The peripheral 'big box' developments have drawn away from Napa central city commerce. The "factory stores" were supposed to tie into the city center via the trolley (locals only appear to use this free service) in an attempt to draw tourists into downtown Napa after/during their shopping spree at the factory stores. Failed, yet again and the trolley operation is now under scrutiny. The constantly changing directions of First St. has all but paralyzed commerce in the downtown area. Empty buildings stand for years; some decades. New franchise operations come and go having failed enough income to sustain a viable income. City planners and councilmembers continually pass ill planned developments in search of the ever elusive buck; tax infusion. Flooding continues while, as I type, plans are being made to build a commercial/residential development in the flood plane while city reps. utilize eminent domain to confiscate personal property in one area while building in another local of flood prone sections of the city proper. And now, I love Napa and others think this new desperate pie in the sky plan to (very unveiled attempt to prop Copia - that monstrosity of pseudo concrete design-)infuse life into Napa is community based and Napa centric. It is anything/everything but. It is yet another out of town scheme for fast money at the expense of history and character. It is the big carpetbaggers coming in to make a fast dollar. And the cheerleaders (read small town, big fish want to be little high school type social retardation) stand on the sidelines, hoping to see their little names in lights...again; it's all about the individual "me." Those who support this overblown new image of Napa are simply and predictably doing what has always been done, over and over, in the long ago and recent past...nothing new, nothing innovative; nothing exceptional. More of the same; big hotels to attract "the tourist." Big, 'you see them everywhere' developments to attract "the tourist." These big plans have nothing to do w/Napa and everything to do with creating a Disneyland atmosphere, play ground, Aspen like environment offering similar titilation to the very bored where they can all gather and celebrate one another. Oh, go away and, while you're at it, grow up. "

I love Napa wrote on Dec 14, 2006 7:56 AM:

" There are some valid points to be found amid Lynn's avalanche of words. It's true that redevelopment in the 70s didn't work. It's true that "peripheral big box developments" draw shoppers away from the center of the City - but it's also true that the average person prefers that type of shopping center for much of what they need and doesn't want to go to a downtown area for basic things. Downtowns are different. Downtown Napa is booming and will get tremendously better in the next few years. There are two major factors: the flood project has stimulated interest in the downtown area among people who can see what the riverfront will become, and people have realized that the City of Napa can provide tourist-attracting amenities (many of which lots of locals enjoy too - Bounty Hunter is a great example) that in the past were only found upvalley. This concept that everything that's happening is self-aggrandizing ego stroking makes me wonder if somebody's taking Psych 101 this semester? It's business! People who own commercial land develop it to make a profit! Duh! Maybe more people should take Econ 101 and forget the psychoanalysis. You should also know that the downtown buildings that are empty are owned by people who are keeping them empty by choice. When the price is right, those properties will be sold and they won't sit empty anymore. And for the benefit of "All that glitters", the $50 million referred to in the original news story re: the Riverfront development - that's private money, not tax money. Private money doesn't fill potholes, but the taxes generated from private development generates public money that DOES fill potholes. This is my last post on this topic. I will conclude by encouraging you to get beyond "go away" as your answer. The changes you see starting now are not going to go away. The people who have a positive view of the future in Napa are not going to go away. "

on the contrary wrote on Dec 14, 2006 10:59 AM:

" This whole redevelopment scheme for creating a new Napa, a "world-class" Napa, is all about phoniness and inflated egos. It more or less started with Copia, part of Mondavi's vision that Napa go from being a blue-collar town to some whimsical food and wine capital. It's all about egotism, and thanks to those big egos, the money-grubbing carpetbaggers have now showed up and are going about the business of ruining our town, profiting at our expense. Do outside developers really care about the quality of life for the average citizen? of course not. "

Lynn wrote on Dec 14, 2006 11:45 AM:

" Maybe all the economic opportunists will someday realize that "It's business" doesn't work when ill and poorly planned. The egoism is so clearly visable that one need only have a grammar school education to see it. "Downtown Napa is booming." Huh? That's why the town center has vacancies; that's why existing businesses have vacated and buildings are being torn down. That must be why shopping at this time of year is so easy; no crowding, no competition for that valued but limited parking space..yeah. Right! Owners are keeping buildings "empty by choice?" I don't think so but, then again, what an easy way to denie the truth. This city gov. has sold out Napa to the highest bidder in hopes to attract tourists and now we have...tada! part time (max 29 days?) condo speculators who will "own" condos near....where else! Copia. Ha! That's ridiculous. All this to, not at all covertly, save Copia..all this to save the wine glugging populace needing attention. Go sell it somewhere else; take your media couched/trained to present dialogue and invest it and, while you're at it...go away!! "

Someone please explain wrote on Dec 14, 2006 2:57 PM:

" Will someone please explain to Lynn who owns the Town Center and almost all of the vacant buildings, and how this person alone is keeping them empty? And please explain that buildings are being torn down to make way for new and bigger buildings? And also explain to Lynn the concept of the condo hotel and how people will be staying in those rooms year round? And, if you're up to it, help Lynn realize that the world does not revolve around Copia and these other projects have been in planning for years?... "

Lynn wrote on Dec 14, 2006 4:13 PM:

" "Someone..." Is this supposed to be news? Good news? Breaking news? What's your point? Yes, of course the world does not revolve around Copia; God forbid; but Napa's power brokers would like to think it does. If you wish to post a comment; please be literate and make sense. "In planning for years..." So what? Meaning what? Simply that tear down/rebuilding will be just like earlg ier downtown destruction rebuilding in the image of....what? "...town down to make way for bigger buildings..." Again, is this supposed to be new information? Please!!! "

literate Lynn wrote on Dec 14, 2006 9:12 PM:

" Please be civil and watch you spelling, it is also part of literacy. "

I love Napa too wrote on Dec 15, 2006 10:46 AM:

" Cheers to the first "I Love Napa" response. You are right on! Change is good and everyone who owns/rents in Napa should be happy that this change is taking place. Do we want to end up like Fairfield, Fremont and many other small towns turned into cheap mass construction? Napa has the opportunity to develop in a smart way that will not only serve the countless tourists that help support your (napans) quality of life and provide Napans with JOBS. I can't afford to buy a house in Napa, but that is not anyone's concern but mine. It means I rent or move to Fairfield. Not everyone can afford to live where they want. I would love to live in Manhattan or Martha's Vineyard, but that is not in my means, so I move to where I can afford. Hopefully with all these great ideas for the development of Napa will come community resources such as a senior center, boys/girls club etc. so it is a win/win for everyone. If you really care about how things develop or do not develop in Napa, I encourage you to get involved in the process and get your facts straight before making generalizations "

Mark wrote on Dec 15, 2006 11:34 AM:

" It would be instructive to see what Vallejo has done with it's downtown, and do the opposite; its strewn with diverse elements as homeless, drug dealing, prostitution, and gang bangers. As far as the first thing I would do to downtown Napa, that would be to paint over the divisive, uni-cultural, non-diversity reflecting mural on 1st street. "

Well, darn it!, I love Napa too wrote on Dec 15, 2006 12:44 PM:

" but it sure doesn't look like Napa anymore. And if they keep building more big buildings it will look like Napa even less. I don't agree with this huge change and I don't agree that change is good just for the sake of it. The changes that we see are too much and too soon and I think it is a mistake. "

Napan wrote on Dec 15, 2006 1:30 PM:

" Change without purpose, or to only benefit a few, is most definitely not good. "

abbadacca wrote on Dec 15, 2006 2:31 PM:

" I'm always amazed at comments regarding urban renewal and development. It would be one thing if we were discussing residential development and how that is impacting our way of life. Should we be for growth, should we build more low income housing, traffic is increasing in our neighboorhood! etc. Housing and increased population cost cities in terms of what is needed to provide services. When discussions center around commercial development however, the fact that there's actually development interest that want to invest here should excite us. So many communities are slowly dying because there is little interest in them. They are forsed to cut back on fire and police departments, they close libraries, and parks. The fact is the State of California no longer supports local communities. Cities and Counties virtually have three choices. A. Build more and more housing to fund with development fees and initial taxes. (think Tracy, Brentwood) B. Build large malls or car dealers or giant box stores to create sales tax revenue. (Fairfield, Roseville, and the king of them all Emeryville) C. Build hotels and charge a TOT. (San Francisco, and Yountville) We are fortunate to have a choice. Fairfield and Vallejo don't have a choice. They have only B. The reality is it CAN'T be like it was. The old days are no longer an option. The skating rink, the drive-in theater, they were going to close no matter what and they won't be replaced because they don't make economic sense. The trick is to be involved. Arm yourself with knowledge. Fight for what you want being realistic about the times we live in. If you ask me, I choose C. "

sickened wrote on Dec 15, 2006 5:39 PM:

" It's the corrupt construction industry behind most "redevelopment" schemes, always ready to tear everything down in order to make a quick buck. This kind of thing happens in communities across the country, Napa is no exception "

Old Tyre wrote on Dec 15, 2006 6:28 PM:

" Has any one been to Sonoma lately? Have you seen the way they PRESERVED the old square. The area I speak of has remained relativly the same for 40 years. When I want to feel a sense of community and enjoy that small town feel I go there to have a cup of coffee and a pastery. The point is the APPROACH to development. This town has lost so much of that small town quality that Sonoma has managed to maintain. Truly there is no need to travel to Sonoma. St. Helena and Calistoga have managed to maintain the valley flavor despite the commercial influence. Gone are the days of Oak Lake Park and Vichy. Irreparable and irreversiable are the changes that have taken place. The individuals who have not had the advantages those of us born and raised here for three generations are just ignorant of the changes that they have brought. They only have where they've come from as a referance. It's human nature to make a place familiar, forge it into somthing that gives them comfort. So keep on cutting down the trees and paving the fields we need the tax revenues to support your way of life. "

Shawna wrote on Dec 15, 2006 7:50 PM:

" to abbadacca. Most of your letter makes sense until you get to the part about the skating rink and drive-in theater. That is not right. It doesn't make economic sense to have nothing for kids in this town to do and so the go out slashing tires and stealing golf carts. Not cool. Maybe these things wouldn't make money like Copia, oh yeah that's right they aren't making any money they are in the red right? So it's ok to have things that don't do well as long as someone important (with money) says do it. Whatever you will see. "

Bring Back the Clock Tower wrote on Dec 16, 2006 8:59 AM:

" I think we need that Lincoln Log construction back, and soon. Our point is folks, growth is good, making your city attractive to bring in tourism and perhaps working families, are good, but the city council refuses to fast track programs this city is in dire need, all the while putting on a prettier "Face". Napa needs to start upgrading and increasing our bike path access as traffic continues to grow by the day. This city has a ton of potential but needs some fine tuning, our roads would be a grand start. Keeping the Napa river garbage free is another priority. "

Napian wrote on Dec 16, 2006 9:56 PM:

" I agree with Bring Back the Clock Tower. This city has been overly forward looking in the past when it comes to putting up new buildings wether they be commercial or residential. Personally I welcome the upgrading and retro-fitting of Belaire Plaza. As for the downtown development...the buildings replacing those that have been demolished is another matter. Those, in my opinion, are out of scale, out of style and I'm no proponent. But I am so proud of this town for the resurrection of the Opera House and the preservation of the bank building on second and main. Good examples of what this town is at it's best. That being said, why did it take thirty years for the Boys and Girls club to get built? I think the truth is it wasn't a priority for the shakers and movers in this community and didn't receive the support it should have. A missed opportunity. I'm sure there are those that can barely contain themselves when thinking about the skateboard park. I picture them slavering in gleeful anticipation of the day the dozers flatten it. I mean, after all, it will become so much more valuable as construction gets underway. But I digress. The roads would be a fine start. I propose that all one way streets in this municipality be made two way. I think that would be an excellent beginning to allieviate some of the congestion. And pray tell why is there no protected left hand turn to go northbound on Soscol from first or third? Seems a little short sighted don't you think? I wonder when this issue will be addressed. Perhaps only when someone becomes a, seriously injured or killed, traffic statistic. To address the TOT revenues: how will those funds be dispersed? Will but a pittance of those revenues be re-invested in the community through libraries, parks and open areas? Or will those revenue generating enterprises merely exacerbate the influences businesses exert on our city and government? A bit naieve don't you think given the history of past performance? Many of the things this community has comes from, and is supported by, property taxes and bond issues. Personally I would like to see more corporate financial participation in the infrastructure. I read somewhere that the Napa Valley does 40 billion dollars per annum in "the wine business". Here's an idea. Why not create a foundation comprised of participants in the wine industry, since our tourism is primarily derived from them, specificly to fund the clean up of the Napa River, while maintaing and expanding the bicycle trails along the river at the same time. Does something of that nature, I'm not aware of, already exist? As for the City Planner's officers: They are aware (painfully at times) of what the members of this community want, or don't want for that matter. They work hard to balance the desires of the community with it's needs. I've seen a number of proposals get unanimously denied because they negativly impacted or didn't serve the needs of the community or their neighborhoods. This town cannot stop a person developing their property. But it can limit it through zoning and the scale of a proposal. So why not be a part of the process, be proactive, and establish a co-operative perspective to negotiate what we're willing to accept? The changes are inevitable and as this community becomes more gentrified many of those changes are quite possibly going to be unpalatable to many of us. Let us ransom the changes to get the things we want/need. No compromise. Negotiation. It's business after all...And just for the record: that clock tower was butt ugly from it's inception. "

I am intrigued wrote on Dec 16, 2006 11:33 PM:

" It is always interesting to hear about how people react to stories such as these. As a person going into my second decade here in Napa (most communities would consider me to be a local at this point), I am pleased that maybe something will happen to revitalize downtown. I used to live there and, althought the restaurants are better, downtown is essentially the same. Merrills has ALWAYS been vacant since I have lived here. I appreciate the positive nature of the story, but downtown is empty. I hope it changes for the better. "

abbadacca wrote on Dec 18, 2006 8:48 AM:

" the only place i'd like to see the clocktower again is in a public bonfire. Mabey before next years big game. I believe that there is great information and ideas here. I wish there was a better way to bring some of it forth to the powers that be. I don't agree that the City wants to turn it's back on locals and court only tourist, but I think it's difficult to find balance. We need funding to pay for the very things mentioned - Roads, Police, Fire, Parks, Senior Programs, etc. Tourism supports that. But we also need a City that we love that we want to spend time in, that we want to be proud of. The question is what and where. How can we create a "heart" in our downtown like the square in Sonoma? What do our youth want - and I don't mean a skating rink. That would be great but it's a private enterprise type of development and not for the City to subsidize. I think we could have a bigger and better skate park for one. Downtown is going to change. There are things on the horizon not even mentioned here. How will you affect them and what matters most? "

Kathy wrote on Dec 18, 2006 8:57 AM:

" Intrigued, there once was an attractive, local color down town in Napa where many businesses were owned by townspeople and many services were being met by shops run and owned by these people. What is happening now is that the appeal is being directed towards a particular, singular type of visitor to the valley and town who, it seems, will be interested in wine, dining and shopping, only. These activities should be peripheral and second to the main attraction which is Napa, itself and the history of Napa which is actually very colorful. The renovation and lore of the Hatt building is a thing of beauty as well as a shopping and dining experience. The refurbished Bank building at Main and Second is another wonderful example of blending history with the present and the Opera House is very nice and presents a wonderful array of entertainment of which I have enjoyed many times. These projects are all in the right direction. Building large, by Napa standards, structures to house franchise enterprises which can be seen in most upscale towns and are pretty generic in experience, is veering away from the actual "Napa" experience. People love Sonoma Square because the city planners have pretty much left well enough alone while utilizing existing structures to house newer stores and businesses. Someone referred in these posts to historical buildings by asking, basically, who wants "dilapidated" old buildings? I would reply by siting the old Migliavacca Building as being restored several decades ago, the Hatt building, the Goodman Library, Opera House, Noyes Mansion, Blue Oak School building, several store fronts on Main and First, etc. All "falling down" at one time but saved and beautified by developers with vision. This CAN continue; blending Napa's past with present and into the future. I hope it will be done. "

Hic-up wrote on Dec 18, 2006 1:07 PM:

" I miss all tyhe old bars. "

to I am intrigued wrote on Dec 19, 2006 8:41 PM:

" Nope, compared to people who have lived here for decades, you are not a local. People such as you simply don't have the perspective and judgement to be making decisions about this town. Unfortunately it is the interlopers who have the most money, and are able to do as they please; we don't exactly live in a fair world. In a fallen world such as this, greed usually wins out, and our little (not so little anymore) town of Napa is not exempt from this. "

You have no perspective wrote on Dec 20, 2006 12:42 PM:

" Excuse me, but "interlopers?" Are they issuing some kind of permits now, so that after you've lived in Napa a certain amount of time you are endowed with "perspective and judgement?" Last time I checked this was still a free country, and each of us is entitled to live where we choose, buy and sell property, get a job or open a business, and take part in civic affairs. There is no special wisdom that comes from living in one place for a long time. In fact, it's probably those who have lived and worked in many places who have greater perspective and wisdom. I've met a lot of people in Napa over the last 20 years, and believe me, there is no correlation between how long you've lived here and having good judgement or common sense. And it's also sad that you live in a "fallen world" - what a depressing way to look at things. Get over yourself... "

Richard wrote on Dec 20, 2006 5:53 PM:

" Clint Brewer, president-elect of the Society of Professional Journalists: "I think newspapers should allow criticism and comment on their work. We certainly try to hold public officials accountable and others in our respective communities. I don't think media organizations are above that same kind of scrutiny and fair comment." "

Napan wrote on Dec 20, 2006 11:02 PM:

" I think someone who has lived here for a long time is in a better place to decide what is right for the town than someone who just recently moved here. For some reason Napa now seems to attract a lot of pathetic wannabe bigshots or "big fish in a small pond" types, and that is certainly not good. Of course you are entitled to live where you want, run a business or whatever, but it pretty much goes without saying that a native or long-time resident (you seem to be one exception) of Napa is far more likely know what they are doing in regards to what is best for this place. "

You have no perspective wrote on Dec 21, 2006 6:49 AM:

" Alright, "Napan," I challenge you to explain your special qualifications as a city planner that have been bestowed upon you by virtue of your living here for a long time. You say you know "what's best for this place." Give us a peek into your perfect world and tell us how you would create the Napa of the 21st century. "

Napan wrote on Dec 21, 2006 11:06 AM:

" Wow, never said that I wanted the job, don't know where you keep getting these ideas; I would prefer to see some different people running the show than those we have now. If I had my way, however, for starters there would be a moratorium on all new housing developments, and all new commercial developments would be carefully reviewed to make sure they are appropriate for Napa - there has been plenty of bad architecture going up lately and more is planned; the developments on 1st street come to mind. As others have mentioned, Sonoma is a good example of a town which has done a good job at preservation; the place looks pretty much the same as it did 15 years ago. Why can't Napa take a leaf out of their book? "

You have no perspective wrote on Dec 21, 2006 2:10 PM:

" OK, so your expertise is more in architectural critique than in planning. Of course, opinions are easy to have, and just because you think something is "bad architecture" doesn't make it so. People in Paris hated the Eiffel Tower when it was built and now it is beloved. I agree that Sonoma has a very nice square. In terms of preservation, however, Napa has had some great things happening of late with both publicly and privately owned properties - the Courthouse, Borreo Building, Goodman Library, Napa Mill, Winship Building, the bank building on Main, the PM Quien Building - and there's a seismic retrofit coming at the Oberon Building. Do you think things being torn down now - the old Penney's or the old Wells Fargo - were better looking that the buildings that will replace them? If that's what you think, you are in not much of an architecture critic after all. In terms of your moratorium on housing; what is your justification for that? If you understood the law, you would know a City cannot impose a moratorium on a whim. Land that has been zoned for housing has a certain value. If you take away the owners' right to build houses, you have stolen from them. What would be your argument when they take you to court? "

Napan wrote on Dec 22, 2006 10:47 PM:

" So you are saying that the new developments, e.g. the big orange box on Soscol or the eye-wateringly bad designs being implemented downtown (1st St. square among others) will someday become beloved icons (like the Eiffel Tower!!) ? Give me a break. I suppose you would have said the same thing about the old clock tower when that was being built downtown. You mention a handful of preservation projects, but those are just a small handful; there has been so much demoliton and rebuilding in Napa in the last few years that I hardly even recognize the town I grew up in. Please don't hand me that nonsense about a halt in development being illegal; my understanding was that the government should carry out the will of the people. When the developers are able to push through with such projects as Hussey Ranch and Stanley Ranch etc., despite overwhelming opposition from the people, something is wrong. The desire of the majority is what should count, not that of a select few. Nearly all of the new housing developments are being built on land that was not intended for housing and has been recently rezoned for the developers' convenience. "

I am intrigued wrote on Dec 23, 2006 5:27 PM:

" So, how long do I have to live here before I get a say? Just let me know...I'll stop working in "your" community doing volunteer work until then. Nice attitude. "

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